FiddySicks Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Honestly, I don't know why Mark Davis didn't just do that to begin with. Building a new yard for the Raiders ANYWHERE is so damn fiscally irresponsible on so many levels, and Mark doesn't have the financial chops or the business savvy to pull off a move like that. There's already a brand new billion dollar stadium in the Bay Area and an ownership group who's willing to share if he's willing to just be who he's always been and just back up a bit and keep enjoying his PF Changs. Marky should just take what he can get and stop risking his stake in the team or draining another municipality dry. And, San Diego? Seriously? No way they tell one incompetent owner in Spanos to kick rocks only to turn around and invite in one who's (possibly) even more of a boob. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 hours ago, bosrs1 said: Only problem, who pays for a new stadium in San Diego? Davis sure can't. And San Diego wouldn't give the team they'd had for 56 years and actually liked public money, they're sure not giving it to a team they don't like. Not when you've got a competing group offering an MLS/Aztecs stadium for free. Davis would have to fund a San Diego stadium out of his own pockets. Perhaps San Diego kept low-balling the Chargers because they thought 56 years of history would keep the Chargers from seriously considering moving. Then the team called the city's bluff. San Diego is now out of the club. If San Diego now wants back in, and they want in badly enough, they'll pay up...even if it means getting the Raiders. And if the NFL loves San Diego that much (especially as a Super Bowl rotational city), they'll gladly give an assist to the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The $1 rent story detailed. https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/inside-sheldon-adelsons-withdrawal-raiders-stadium-deal Excerpt: Quote On Thursday afternoon, Raiders owner Mark Davis sat with Sheldon Adelson at The Venetian, haggling over details of their proposed partnership on a stadium. As they went back and forth, Adelson’s lieutenant, Andy Abboud, was driving Raiders President Mark Badain to the Las Vegas Valley Water District, where the Stadium Authority was convening what promised to be a boring meeting. The real action was on the Strip, where two tough negotiators had been arguing for weeks over naming rights, stadium operations and more. There was friction, but a deal was still possible. Then it happened. The Raiders presented what Sands officials are portraying as a Pearl Harbor document, which The Nevada Independent’s Jackie Valley first reported: $1 annual rent and total control. Adelson, chatting with Davis in his office high in his hotel, had no idea. Abboud, having chauffeured Badain to the meeting, had no clue. The Sands snookered? Sheldon the sucker? The Venetian victim? For all intents and purposes, the partnership ended that moment. Despite weekend attempts to salvage the deal, sources say, with Abboud and Clark County Commission Chairman Steve Sisolak trying to play peacemakers, a furious Adelson decided Monday to walk. “He said today, ‘I’m done. I’m out. I’m not negotiating.’” said one insider. The Sands chairman, known as a negotiator with no mercy, told people he believed the Raiders and their partners-in-waiting, Goldman Sachs, had dealt with him in bad faith. And hell hath no fury like an Adelson scorned. Imagine how The Litigious One feels after letting the Raiders tap into his political juice, after intimidating the Legislature into giving his legacy dream $750 million in public money. And now he is taking his $600 million and going home. “It’s just a matter of how scorched he is going to make the Earth,” one insider told me. (Unrelated note: He does own a newspaper.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Davis gotta Davis. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I will readily admit it's not a perfect solution, but I would love to see San Diego turn heel and totally embrace the Raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Cosmic, That's like quitting cocaine to start using heroine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 hours ago, Gothamite said: Uh, oh. No Adelson, No Goldman Sachs: Investment Bank Backs Out of Raiders Stadium Deal in Las Vegas #PeakMarkDavis INSERT PLACEHOLDER INVESTOR ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp49 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Too funny. Just too funny. Too bad it would have been fun to see Davis at the PF Chang's location in the Planet Hollywood on the strip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, tp49 said: Too funny. Just too funny. Too bad it would have been fun to see Davis at the PF Chang's location in the Planet Hollywood on the strip. He would go to the one off the strip to avoid any casino parking fee. He'd sill love the Hooters Casino on Tropicana since they still offer free valet parking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Oh yay, good for Mark Davis. Now on top of not getting stadium, he'll also probably end up with a nice pair of cement shoes and a trip to the bottom of Lake Mead. It's even more Mark Davis-y than I expected! On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Step 1: Demolish Oracle Step 2: Build new A's park on Oracle land Step 3: Tear down the old part of the Oakland Coliseum minus Mt. Davis, build a normal-ish football stadium around that Step 4: Have the Raiders play here and there in the meantime: Santa Clara, Berkeley, Mexico, up Roger Goodell's ass Step 5: Move back into renovated Coliseum ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 With what money? If there's one thing we've learned from all of this it's that outside of scary casino moguls, nobody has any. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltjets21 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Why do the Raiders need a 1.9 billion dollar stadium? I think they can still manage to lower the cost of the stadium by a few hundred million and still fund the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, the admiral said: Step 1: Demolish Oracle Step 2: Build new A's park on Oracle land Step 3: Tear down the old part of the Oakland Coliseum minus Mt. Davis, build a normal-ish football stadium around that Step 4: Have the Raiders play here and there in the meantime: Santa Clara, Berkeley, Mexico, up Roger Goodell's ass Step 5: Move back into renovated Coliseum A's don't want to be at Coliseum site unless they can develop ba portion (if not all of it). Mt. Davis club and suites are too far from the field. Berkeley is off the table because: 1-While the Cal athletic dept. is running a serious debt, the city, neighborhood assoc.band the university have a stricter rules on the use of Memorial Stadium than Pasadena and the Arroyo Seco has for the Rose Bowl. http://news.berkeley.edu/2010/04/08/stadium/ 2- When the Raiders played preseason games in Berkeley in the 1970's, there were problems and Al even failed to pay the rent and Berkeley took the team to court after installing a 10% game day tax. Raiders lost in appellate court. http://berkeleycitizensaction.org/?page_id=426 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 52 minutes ago, dfwabel said: He would go to the one off the strip to avoid any casino parking fee. He'd sill love the Hooters Casino on Tropicana since they still offer free valet parking. He could walk. I see him as one of those people that permanently live in a hotel room, so he doesn't have to pick up after himself without hiring actual waitstaff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, ltjets21 said: Why do the Raiders need a 1.9 billion dollar stadium? I think they can still manage to lower the cost of the stadium by a few hundred million and still fund the stadium. How? Cutting F, F, & E isn't going to do it. Some true costs for the high price is for seismic stability, the cost of land and other infrastructure. Nevada is #3 in earthquake activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Santa Clara and staying at the coliseum look like the 2 options left.San Diego and San Antonio are dark horse longshots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colortv Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Mark should just save himself $700 million in relocation/construction fees and move into Levis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 9 hours ago, bosrs1 said: Only problem, who pays for a new stadium in San Diego? Davis sure can't. And San Diego wouldn't give the team they'd had for 56 years and actually liked public money, they're sure not giving it to a team they don't like. Not when you've got a competing group offering an MLS/Aztecs stadium for free. Davis would have to fund a San Diego stadium out of his own pockets. San Diego would have paid for a stadium in Mission Valley, especially if the Spanos family didn't hate San Diego and were ever actually serious about keeping the team in town. At this point, a stadium deal for the Raiders would get done ASAP in San Diego just on pure spite alone. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, colortv said: Mark should just save himself $700 million in relocation/construction fees and move into Levis. With the Niners going how they've been lately, could a move there shift some of the Bay Area's allegiances in the Raiders favour? @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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