dfwabel Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 And the "Super Six" got derailed by injuries, but it still was completed.The US "casual boxing fan" has morphed into the growing Hispanic population; most others moved on or never liked it from the start.Next, Saturday, Canelo fights a slightly overrated fighter named James Kirkland (whose criminal past is far worse than Floyd) and 15,000 seats were sold in two hours for Minute Maid Park. It can still draw, it got back on network TV but this is this generation's peak as this thread will dry up like every other combat sport thread I've seen started here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Every buy fight is the end of boxing. I've been hearing it since the first Tyson/Holyfield fight. I think people are reacting to the fact that Mayweather fights are generally boring -- he'd all defense and that isn't much fun to watch for several rounds. People just paid $100 on PPV and $100k in seats. They'll do the same for the rematch. Boxing will be fine. Also, PEDS are hitting UFC hard, and their two biggest stars are in WWE or angling to be in WWE.That's just it, though. Before last night, when was the last REALLY "big" fight we've seen? Only one I can think of that really felt like it had nearly the same hype was Tyson Holyfield 1, and I was almost twenty years ago. One really big fight every two decades, no matter how big, really isn't a great sign for the sport IMO. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportstar1212 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Just an observation, but it's kinda interesting how boxing has been on the decline since the premier fights have moved from MSG to Vegas. I'm not saying that's the reason for boxing's downfall, but I thought that it was worth noting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 This fight was the last shovel of dirt on the grave of boxing. The Problem is Mayweather is great and boring, he never knocks anyone out he just does enough to win most rounds and grabs and hugs and dulls everything down. Pacquiao is past his prime and there are no stars anywhere on the horizon. What boxing needs is a monster a Mike Tyson someone who scares everyone and there are no more Mike Tysons. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I mentioned it earlier, but the bad reaction to this fight seems an awful like lot a bunch of people that don't usually watch boxing or don't usually watch Mayweather and didn't realize that this is exactly the fight anybody who knew what they were talking about said it would be. And the criticism of Mayweather's strategy seems silly. If Manny has traditionally had some struggles against counter punchers, and Floyd is one of the best counter punchers ever, why on earth would anybody except him to be on the offensive all night as opposed to, well, playing defense and countering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 The fight clearly drew in people expecting Rocky or something like it, but real boxing is way less exciting than the movies, especially Mayweather fights. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc49erfan15 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 The fight clearly drew in people expecting Rocky or something like it, but real boxing is way less exciting than the movies, especially Mayweather fights.The general public (or anybody who doesn't know a thing about boxing) expected a heavyweight match. Tyson/Holyfield/Lewis/Ali/Foreman/Frazier, etc. Dudes slugging each other. Knockdowns. Knockouts. The average person just knew about the personas of both fighters - not their fighting style. That's why it was a "disappointment". People wanted to watch it because it became a cultural phenomenon. Most people came away disappointed because they hadn't seen a boxing match like that before - if they'd ever seen one at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 The Problem is this is what boxing has become. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Knock it off. No it isn't. The problem is that there's no unifying body, the titles are meaningless, and there's too many financial interests and, as a result, we don't always get to see the most compelling fights -- all this in addition to the fact that there's not a whole lot of compelling fighters at the moment. Mayweather isn't the first counter-puncher -- defense-first fighters have always been around -- he just happens to be the best in the world (by a long shot) at the moment and by far the most marketable (or, more accurately, the only marketable fighter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 No governing body is why boxing got to this state, but even when Tyson was ponding everyone there was no governiong body and the sport was fine. However, when the only marketable boxer is boring then you have no reason to watch. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 However, when the only marketable boxer is boring then you have no reason to watch.If you have heard of Gennady Golovkin, then you really haven't been paying attention to boxing in the last three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 This is awesome... http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=12820206BS Report featuring Jimmy Kimmel's Pac entourage cameo + Cousin Sal. @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 However, when the only marketable boxer is boring then you have no reason to watch.If you have heard of Gennady Golovkin, then you really haven't been paying attention to boxing in the last three years. You think a Russian Boxer not named Klitchko is marketable? www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needschat Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 However, when the only marketable boxer is boring then you have no reason to watch.If you have heard of Gennady Golovkin, then you really haven't been paying attention to boxing in the last three years. You think a Russian Boxer not named Klitchko is marketable?Klitchko is Ukrainian. Oh what could have been.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 The people who whine about Floyd being "boring" remind me of the crowd who whines about Tim Duncan being "boring." Both are just winners and great technical masters of their craft who have the fundamentals down to a science. If you can't appreciate that, sports just aren't for you.I'm not even a huge boxing fan, but I recognize greatness when I see it. Floyd is amazing and one of the all-time greats of his sport. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Potential rematch chatter.Put it on network tv.Annd... now chatter of Manny facing perjury charges based on his injury claim. I just saw a headline, rolled my eyes & left. I'm assuming because he revealed post-fight he was injured, after monies flowed pre-fight based on 100% health? @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Pacquiao's promoter suggests there will be a rematch if Mayweather wants one.This has to be part of Floyd's masterplan. Just as the slow burn of the first fight's 5yr build, to max out 9 digit payday.Now he'll probably be 49-0, & we'll be watching (not for $100*) yet again to either see Pacman fulfill his potential or Floyd the first & only 50 win boxer. @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Huge difference between Duncan and Mayweather. Duncan plays a team sport, games are on tv, winning is determined by scores not stylevpoints. Boxing is pay.per view individual sport and fans want action not hugg ing. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needschat Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 IF there's a rematch, have Vince MacMahon and his WWE marketing machine put it on. They can easily fill a 50K+ stadium, have millions purchase the PPV, and well, write a better script! Oh what could have been.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 IF there's a rematch, have Vince MacMahon and his WWE marketing machine put it on. They can easily fill a 50K+ stadium, have millions purchase the PPV, and well, write a better script! My head hurts. @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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