rams80 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Lot more Las Vegas noise than I'd like right now. Would this be Glendale relocated or expansion? Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I think it's fair to say the Panthers are in play now.No arena and no owner in Las Vegas. No arena and no owner in Seattle. Meanwhile, in Québec City... Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJourney Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The article at si.com says it's pretty much a done deal for an expansion team. There is an arena under construction in Vegas by the way. So Vegas & Seattle as possible expansion teams in 2016-2017 with Arizona & Florida relocating to Portland & Quebec City down the road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I think it's fair to say the Panthers are in play now. No arena and no owner in Las Vegas. No arena and no owner in Seattle. Meanwhile, in Québec City... Why do I hate Detroit even more now that they aren't even in the same Conference as the Blues? Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 I think it's fair to say the Panthers are in play now. It would be hilarious -- and virtually unprecedented for the public-private syndicate that governs Florida -- if the consultant Broward hired gets back to them with "yeah, this is really stupid, don't give them any more money." It's gonna suck when we find out the consultant is Michael Yormark. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DnBronc Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 As a former Sun Devil, I love Osweiler. I do. But he's nowhere near NFL Starter material. No way.I wouldn't go that far. He hasn't looked that bad this preseason.And, Matt Moore had a 60% completion rating with 16 TD's, 9 INT's, and almost 2,500 yards passing as the starter for 12 games three years ago in Miami. The Rams should ask Miami about him. Definite upgrade over Shaun Hill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hi, this is a hockey thread. 1 Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 It's really more of a sports business/board meme/safe-harbor-to-screw-off thread, but it's definitely not a football thread! I'm melting here! Here's Jeb Lund on Florida and how private enterprise screws taxpayers: http://www.mrdestructo.com/2010/11/profiles-in-florida-countdown-to-rick.html The last would likely only make Scott happy, as it would give further ammunition for his perverse Ahab-like obsession with destroying the Florida Department of Community Affairs. The DCA is an innocuous state agency that ensures that new developments comply with municipal and county planning regulations (environmental, historical, hazard mitigation, etc.). On paper, it seems like an unnecessary agency, because municipal and county governments could enforce their planning regulations. Thinking like that, however, is explicitly un-Florida. Please allow a moment's indulgence to explain how developments in Florida are made on, say, the county level: 1. You are a developer. You want to build 500 houses in the county. 2. The planning department notes that 500 houses will require bulldozing wetlands or a historic neighborhood or some other poor-people thing, so you will have to pay an environmental impact fee, pay to relocate the historic neighborhood or not build at all. 3. You tell this to the County Commissioner whose election campaign you bankrolled 10% of, because you are a wealthy developer. 4. The planning department presents its findings at the Board of County Commissioners meeting, at which point your County Commissioner moves that you be granted an exemption from both restrictions on building and paying any fees for doing so, based on some fantasy that another blot-shaped treeless Omega Man zone of ranch-housed crudscape is going to finally turn around the economy of a county that's entirely made up of developments like that. 5. Just for the hell of it, the BoCC exempts you from a :censored:load of other taxes or fees. Speaking of which, here's how the other part of that farcical dance goes: 1. You are a developer. You want to build 500 houses in the county. 2. The planning department notes that these 500 houses will put roughly 1,000 new motorists on the roads in this part of the county, choking the flow of traffic. They demand that you spend $20 million in concurrency fees to widen roads and bridges to the neighborhoods, create new stoplights and signage and perhaps even build an on-ramp addition to an existing highway. 3. You tell this to the County Commissioner whose election campaign you bankrolled 10% of, because you are a wealthy developer. 4. The planning department presents its findings at the Board of County Commissioners meeting, at which point your County Commissioner moves that you be granted an exemption for paying concurrency fees for 25 years. 5. An entire neighborhood, and everyone else who uses these roads, commutes through hell for 20 years. 6. Before the 25 years are up, the county realizes that the traffic problem has become so severe that they must rehabilitate and expand traffic arteries before your bill is due, funding them through an emergency bond issue. This obviates the need for you to pay anything, because your concurrency fees were tied to old projected road upgrades made by county planning staff 20 years ago, all of which have been superseded and overridden by the plans for the new bond issue. Thus the taxpayer has just funded your concurrency fees, which means you've bilked him twice, because back during the concurrency fees meeting... 7. Just for the hell of it, the BoCC exempted you from a :censored:load of other taxes or fees. Change a few words around and you can see how the next stage of the Panthers will play out. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJourney Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Now according to reports it might be a 4 team expansion with Las Vegas, Seattle, Toronto and Quebec City. I'm sure the expansion fees are nice but Bettman has truly lost his mind if this is true. 34 NHL teams. Really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 That would be good in absolutely no way, except that there will be four new identities for us to critique. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJourney Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I pray it doesn't happen at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still MIGHTY Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Four expansion teams doesn't even make sense. Expanding at all is kind of dumb, but at least expanding by two makes some logistical sense.You have two unbalanced conferences, one with 16 and one with 14. You even it out with two more teams. Adding four teams leaves us with unbalanced divisions (17-team conferences with 9/8-team divisions) or unbalanced conferences (18/16). But hey, it's the NHL, I guess.I hope that there's some confusion in the reports and it's four cities in contention for teams, either by expansion or relocation. (Moving Arizona/Florida and expanding to two more.) Quote | ANA | LAA | LAR | LAL | ASU | CSULB | USMNT | USWNT | LAFC | OCSC | MAN UTD | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I think we're officially at the point of the program where some rebel soldiers storm the castle and behead the insane emperor for the good of the country. 2 Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Oh yeah that's perfect. Expand to Vegas, of all places. That's not even a lateral move from Phoenix! Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGM13 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 This is gonna dilute the talent pool big time. The top four current FA goalies are Bryz, Brodeur, Vokoun, and Tim Thomas. What the hell, Bettman. Quote GO OILERS-GO BLUE JAYS-GO ESKIMOS-GO COLTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still MIGHTY Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Yup. There's going to be between 90-100 new NHL jobs if this goes through. There are not 90-100 NHL-caliber players outside of the NHL right now. Hell, one could argue there aren't enough NHL-caliber players to fill out the NHL right now.Blah. Quote | ANA | LAA | LAR | LAL | ASU | CSULB | USMNT | USWNT | LAFC | OCSC | MAN UTD | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Now according to reports it might be a 4 team expansion with Las Vegas, Seattle, Toronto and Quebec City. I'm sure the expansion fees are nice but Bettman has truly lost his mind if this is true. 34 NHL teams. Really. Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 So Dan Patrick dropped that Karmanos is looking to sell, and not not to Las Vegas interests, and some Hurricanes beat writer got buttshook like so: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/08/28/4103635_decock-hurricanes-struggles-once.html?sp=/99/100/&rh=1 Patrick, like many former ESPN employees, has a long-standing and open grudge against Karmanos for moving the team out of Hartford in 1997. The day after the Hurricanes won the Stanley Cup in 2006, both Patrick and Keith Olbermann heaped invective on Karmanos on the radio and were reprimanded by ESPN for it. That doesn’t mean Patrick is wrong that the NHL will have a team in Las Vegas soon, but it’s certainly worth considering when he claims Karmanos and the Hurricanes are involved. "He can't be right because he's a meanypants who's out to get us!" Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Looks cool with the windows up top. Look at the rake of the seats, too. That's almost Forum steep (but not Winnipeg Arena steep, Jesus Christ). Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Now now, Winnipeg arena was only steep on the parts that were added on after the Jets were brokered into the NHL. That upper deck, Jesus Christ. God help the drunks who slipped on the way to their seats (I.e. me) Quote Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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