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If the NHL is planning to take the Coyotes to Seattle, I believe this needs to be asked, since I no longer trust them to do any due diligence on anything anymore.

"Does Key Arena even have an ice plant still?"

FWIW some goomba on twitter said the Tacoma Dome doesn't have one at the moment.

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I'm hearing that KeyArena and the Tacoma Dome both do and don't have ice plants. I'm really glad we're having these discussions, trying to ascertain whether an 11,000-seat basketball-specific venue or the Buckminister Fuller OmniBarn can indeed make ice. NHL, I hate so much about the things you choose to be.

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I would laugh so hard if the Coyotes ended up here in the fall. There's no fun euro-scarves to buy, no romanticism of Seattle's early-90s glory days, and no perceived local interest in hockey. But sure, why not bring the NHL here.

I'd go when they play the Sabres, which I think would actually never happen. Fun!

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I'm hearing that KeyArena and the Tacoma Dome both do and don't have ice plants. I'm really glad we're having these discussions, trying to ascertain whether an 11,000-seat basketball-specific venue or the Buckminister Fuller OmniBarn can indeed make ice. NHL, I hate so much about the things you choose to be.

Why are you the way that you are, NHL?

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A Coyotes ticket rep actually called me this morning

"Hi! I'm from the Coyotes ticket office and I've seen that you've been to some games here in the last year?"

"Yeah. Moreso when I lived in the area, but I've gone back for some Ducks games there."

"So, are you planning on or would you like to come see some games out here this year?"

"Provided that the team actually exists in a month's time, yeah I'd love to!"

"Yeah... Yeah... *sigh* I get that... I get that... Well... If you end up wanting tickets, go ahead and give me a call here on my direct line... Thanks..."

Poor guy. Just the sound of utter defeat in his voice. Not his fault.

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The Thrashers were still selling tickets hours after the press conference in Winnipeg. Of course, in their defense, Gary Bettman threatened to send the team back to Atlanta unless the Winnipeg faithful sold their children into slavery to buy tickets, so they did have that glimmer of hope.

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A Coyotes ticket rep actually called me this morning

"Hi! I'm from the Coyotes ticket office and I've seen that you've been to some games here in the last year?"

"Yeah. Moreso when I lived in the area, but I've gone back for some Ducks games there."

"So, are you planning on or would you like to come see some games out here this year?"

"Provided that the team actually exists in a month's time, yeah I'd love to!"

"Yeah... Yeah... *sigh* I get that... I get that... Well... If you end up wanting tickets, go ahead and give me a call here on my direct line... Thanks..."

Poor guy. Just the sound of utter defeat in his voice. Not his fault.

That's pretty sad that the team is calling people who once lived there, but I agree, can't blame the sales rep.

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The Suns are terrible yet their games are always pretty packed. If they get better the fans will definitely show up. D Backs games have been pretty packed lately as well. Overall, it could be a lot worse for the Phoenix teams.

The teams up in Glendale, on the other hand...

I thought the Cardinals haven't had a blackout in their new stadium. Although, if they repeat last years' horror show on offense, then that will happen sooner or later.

The key is that the Cardinals play virtually once every other weekend, so there's less impact on fans going to Glendale. But there are issues when the Coyotes seek fans who have to travel 10+ miles to-and-from per game, hyperbolized to 2-3 games a week, to see their games.

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Who would these 4-6 teams be?

I'd just go with Coyotes and Panthers. People attend Predators games and Carolina has the ownership and management that seems willing to make it work.

Preds have a small arena with only being 19th in attendance percent.

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I'm hearing that KeyArena and the Tacoma Dome both do and don't have ice plants. I'm really glad we're having these discussions, trying to ascertain whether an 11,000-seat basketball-specific venue or the Buckminister Fuller OmniBarn can indeed make ice. NHL, I hate so much about the things you choose to be.

But that's what makes this thread so great!

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Poor guy. Just the sound of utter defeat in his voice. Not his fault.

That's pretty sad that the team is calling people who once lived there, but I agree, can't blame the sales rep.

I got a call recently from the Padres if I wanted to get a ticket plan on my account. I told the guy I never had an account, to which he said something like "oh well actually because you bought tickets to us last year you're now automatically an account holder". I told him I moved back to NJ so it wasn't happening, obviously he didn't know that. I'm just harping on the "are you really THAT desperate" angle.

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heh, those organizations could learn something from the sens.

We are THAT desperate to a point that we tell other people from other cities NOT to come.

But yeah, I can see that they yotes would have to try to get people from across the country to fill their seats.

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I cannot believe nobody caught this little nugget from the other day...

The Phoenix Coyotes have been linked to several cities for relocation.

There could be another possibility if the City of Glendale and an ownership group can't come to an agreement: going dark for the 2013-2014 season.

In other words, the NHL could soon be veering into what in recent years has been the exclusive domain of the National Lacrosse League (which has seen several teams suspend operations with plans to return later, although most of them ended up simply going away altogether).

If this actually happens, aside from making the new alignment even more unbalanced than it already is, it would reaffirm what most of us here have suspected all along: that Seattle, Quebec City et al never really had a chance, because the Phoenix market is to Gary Bettman what the One Ring is to Gollum, and he'll move heaven, hell and every mountain on Earth before he gives up his Precious.

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Going dark is not an option unless the league made some unheard of concessions to the players affected. The union would flip. They'd have to declare the Coyotes players free agents, expand rosters for a season, and grant salary cap exemptions so that the number of players with jobs (and who pay union dues) doesn't decrease. Then they'd have an expansion draft or something in a year or whenever the team comes back on-line.

Actually now that I type that out, that actually could be a possibility.

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Going dark is not an option unless the league made some unheard of concessions to the players affected. The union would flip. They'd have to declare the Coyotes players free agents, expand rosters for a season, and grant salary cap exemptions so that the number of players with jobs (and who pay union dues) doesn't decrease. Then they'd have an expansion draft or something in a year or whenever the team comes back on-line.

Actually now that I type that out, that actually could be a possibility.

Like I said - moving heaven, hell and every mountain on Earth...

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Poor guy. Just the sound of utter defeat in his voice. Not his fault.

That's pretty sad that the team is calling people who once lived there, but I agree, can't blame the sales rep.

I got a call recently from the Padres if I wanted to get a ticket plan on my account. I told the guy I never had an account, to which he said something like "oh well actually because you bought tickets to us last year you're now automatically an account holder". I told him I moved back to NJ so it wasn't happening, obviously he didn't know that. I'm just harping on the "are you really THAT desperate" angle.

I don't know if the Padres are that desperate yet. I've seen even good teams do the same thing (like the Giants. I bought tickets from them once and get hounded at least twice a year via phone or email).

Actually it's too bad you can't take the Pads up on it. When I could afford seasons last year the benefits were great. I even got to be on field during BP during a game in late summer.

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