TheOldRoman Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Rick Westhead ✔@rwestheadMayor Weiers: "I don't care how good a deal is. If you're breaking the law you're breaking the law. I don't care how good a deal it is."breakin' the law, breakin' the law...breakin' the law, breakin' the law...You know, this situation does call for a Judas Priest parody. But I'm far too tired.And to those who speculated on this thread ending? Oh no! This is but another beginning. Now things will really get silly as the Coyotes sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 To address the specter of a new arena shared by the Coyotes and the Suns, I'm going to raise one question BTW: Is it actually in the Suns' (or ASU's, if they get involved) financial interest to bring in the Coyotes? Assuming they're running the arena, they might be leaving money on the table by having a hockey team chew up 40+ nights that could be used for more lucrative concerts and other events. I mean, the Kansas City and Houston experiences might be relevant here. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Is it over? After 4 years and over 5600 posts, is it all going to come to an end?And this is the 2nd Coyotes thread. The first one turned into a Winnipeg Jets celebration thread... or something.Tawny is stretching before hopping on the hood of that car... again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonBlue Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 To address the specter of a new arena shared by the Coyotes and the Suns, I'm going to raise one question BTW:Is it actually in the Suns' (or ASU's, if they get involved) financial interest to bring in the Coyotes? Assuming they're running the arena, they might be leaving money on the table by having a hockey team chew up 40+ nights that could be used for more lucrative concerts and other events. I mean, the Kansas City and Houston experiences might be relevant here.Exactly. Plus, an arena can than host both sports properly will have inferior seats on the baselines for basketball. I still don't see what's wrong with Talking Stick Arena that it can't last 15-20 more years with upgrades. It was designed much better than the late 80s arenas like Bradley Center. Quote "I did absolutely nothing and it was everything I thought it could be." -Peter Gibbons RIP Demitra #38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 To address the specter of a new arena shared by the Coyotes and the Suns, I'm going to raise one question BTW:Is it actually in the Suns' (or ASU's, if they get involved) financial interest to bring in the Coyotes? Assuming they're running the arena, they might be leaving money on the table by having a hockey team chew up 40+ nights that could be used for more lucrative concerts and other events. I mean, the Kansas City and Houston experiences might be relevant here.They would repeat their previous issues regarding premium seat money, as well as in-arena advertising. Plus, when they moved to Phoenix, both teams were owned by Jerry Coangelo,so when he sold, he made the lease in his favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrysleraspen08 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Please tell me there is gonna be someway for me to watch the majority of this I missed 1 Quote Sporting Venue Count (for games): OHL: 19 (28 Total)- 770 games (after 18-19), MLB: 13 (15 Total), NHL: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 To address the specter of a new arena shared by the Coyotes and the Suns, I'm going to raise one question BTW:Is it actually in the Suns' (or ASU's, if they get involved) financial interest to bring in the Coyotes? Assuming they're running the arena, they might be leaving money on the table by having a hockey team chew up 40+ nights that could be used for more lucrative concerts and other events. I mean, the Kansas City and Houston experiences might be relevant here.ASU is going to have to bring in someone if they want to get a new arena to replace Wells Fargo. But the question is, why would they even want to do that? Other than it being small, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the current place, and basketball hasn't exactly been enough of a revenue sport for the school to justify it. On top of that, while they'd LOVE a fresh new spot for their upcoming hockey program, there are plenty of places around the valley where ASU could play hockey. There's even been talk of them playing at US Airways Center/whatever it's called now. Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 To address the specter of a new arena shared by the Coyotes and the Suns, I'm going to raise one question BTW:Is it actually in the Suns' (or ASU's, if they get involved) financial interest to bring in the Coyotes? Assuming they're running the arena, they might be leaving money on the table by having a hockey team chew up 40+ nights that could be used for more lucrative concerts and other events. I mean, the Kansas City and Houston experiences might be relevant here. Exactly. Plus, an arena can than host both sports properly will have inferior seats on the baselines for basketball. I still don't see what's wrong with Talking Stick Arena that it can't last 15-20 more years with upgrades. It was designed much better than the late 80s arenas like Bradley Center. Talking Stick has the same problem Barclays in Brooklyn will - lots of seats that should be in your priciest level from which you can't see the full ice surface.And Bradley Center was designed as a hockey-first arena, so, bad example. Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Coyotes owner reacts: http://video.coyotes.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=829083oh man. This is something else. "How do we negotiate our way out of being shot in the head by the city""what happened here tonight is possibly the most shameful exhibition of government I have ever witnessed" "the citizens of Glendale should be very concerned of the government leading them..." I agree with you there, but I suspect for different reasons. strap in, fellas. This is going to get really good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 The dynamic here is fascinating. Glendale's obviously Hooterville through and through, but there was a story a few weeks back about the council members being right pissed at the Coyotes, because the team wouldn't provide any paperwork showing Andrew Barroway had actually become the majority owner, and Barroway said he'd only meet with the Glendalers if they flew to New York to see him, at which point he'd grant them 30 minutes of his time.Basically, the Coyotes bullied their gravy train operators so badly, that the councilmen got angry enough to do something marginally approaching competency. They actually had no choice but to do something in the best interests of their citizens, finally. And now it's the Coyotes' turn to be angry and scared. This thing's gonna get a whole lot dumber before anything gets close to being resolved, and I can't wait. 1 Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 To address the specter of a new arena shared by the Coyotes and the Suns, I'm going to raise one question BTW:Is it actually in the Suns' (or ASU's, if they get involved) financial interest to bring in the Coyotes? Assuming they're running the arena, they might be leaving money on the table by having a hockey team chew up 40+ nights that could be used for more lucrative concerts and other events. I mean, the Kansas City and Houston experiences might be relevant here.ASU is going to have to bring in someone if they want to get a new arena to replace Wells Fargo. But the question is, why would they even want to do that? Other than it being small, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the current place, and basketball hasn't exactly been enough of a revenue sport for the school to justify it. On top of that, while they'd LOVE a fresh new spot for their upcoming hockey program, there are plenty of places around the valley where ASU could play hockey. There's even been talk of them playing at US Airways Center/whatever it's called now.USA Basketball balking at the university's terms tells all sport owners the terms.http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/college/asu/2015/04/11/asu-usa-basketball-olympics-michael-crow-jerry-colangelo/25634875/Coangelo is still a player in pro sports.ASU needs to go like Michigan, Georgia Tech (twice), Clemson (twice) & UCLA, Illinois and renovate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-ROY Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Regarding the Coyotes situation, the organization is making a complete ass of itself. The fact that the Coyotes are still in the NHL is absolutely shocking. The greedy bastards of the NHL and Arizona Coyotes are basically making money (barely) off of taxpayers money. If the city is in detriments because they have to keep your sorry excuse of a hockey team in Glendale, then you better not hit the door on your way out. Not one citizen of or even Arizona cares more about your crappy hockey team that's costing them who knows how much money more than the fire department who's job it is to SAVE LIVES. Screw you Anthony LeBlanc and screw you Gary Bettman. You guys can rot in a grave for all I care. I've never seen such a selfish exhibit in my life. The fact that you want hundreds of millions of dollars from the city of Glendale is absurdly disgraceful. You should be paying the city that much to pay back the citizens who never wanted you in the first place. Thank you for reading. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Regarding the Coyotes situation, the organization is making a complete ass of itself. The fact that the Coyotes are still in the NHL is absolutely shocking. The greedy bastards of the NHL and Arizona Coyotes are basically making money (barely) off of taxpayers money. If the city is in detriments because they have to keep your sorry excuse of a hockey team in Glendale, then you better not hit the door on your way out. Not one citizen of or even Arizona cares more about your crappy hockey team that's costing them who knows how much money more than the fire department who's job it is to SAVE LIVES. Screw you Anthony LeBlanc and screw you Gary Bettman. You guys can rot in a grave for all I care. I've never seen such a selfish exhibit in my life. The fact that you want hundreds of millions of dollars from the city of Glendale is absurdly disgraceful. You should be paying the city that much to pay back the citizens who never wanted you in the first place. Thank you for reading. There have been multiple city councils and multiple elections since then approval of the arena construction.Glendale still votes to keep the team.There has been a mayoral change...Glendale still votes to keep the team.The city and its government has had ample opportunities to cut ties yet still doesn't. Don't blame the "squatter" here, blame the bank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonBlue Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 To address the specter of a new arena shared by the Coyotes and the Suns, I'm going to raise one question BTW:Is it actually in the Suns' (or ASU's, if they get involved) financial interest to bring in the Coyotes? Assuming they're running the arena, they might be leaving money on the table by having a hockey team chew up 40+ nights that could be used for more lucrative concerts and other events. I mean, the Kansas City and Houston experiences might be relevant here. Exactly. Plus, an arena can than host both sports properly will have inferior seats on the baselines for basketball. I still don't see what's wrong with Talking Stick Arena that it can't last 15-20 more years with upgrades. It was designed much better than the late 80s arenas like Bradley Center. Talking Stick has the same problem Barclays in Brooklyn will - lots of seats that should be in your priciest level from which you can't see the full ice surface.And Bradley Center was designed as a hockey-first arena, so, bad example.There has been chatter to build a new Suns arena. Clearly the Coyotes couldn't play at Talking Stick except temporarily if they were to go in on a new building with Phoenix and the Suns. But for just the Suns, Talking Stick should be fine for awhile. The chatter is starting to bring Coyotes back to Phoenix:"#Phoenix Councilman @MRNowakowski says he's pushing to bring @ArizonaCoyotes hockey team to downtown. Wants team 2 share new arena w/ @Suns." Quote "I did absolutely nothing and it was everything I thought it could be." -Peter Gibbons RIP Demitra #38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Not one citizen of or even Arizona cares more about your crappy hockey team that's costing them who knows how much money more than the fire department who's job it is to SAVE LIVES.Demonstrably false. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Build a new Suns arena? Isn't theirs barely 20 years old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Also- the Phoenix teams take the cake for oddest arena names. Talking Stick and Gila River. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Build a new Suns arena? Isn't theirs barely 20 years old?Opened in '92. Sadly, in today's world that's too long a tenure as technology and amenities in arena's are ever changing. I'm sure it's still a nice arena, but having a franchise or a city ask for a new one after 20+ years in their current one doesn't surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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