1insaneguy Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Hey everybody! I was trying to make a roundel logo for the St. Louis Blues without using their "wing note" logo. I kept the Gateway arch and added gold/yellow to it, I made 5 lines (representing sheet music and water) at the bottom to show that St. Louis is on the Mississippi River, and the words St. Louis Blues to it. I also included the color red to represent Missouri's flag (and because the Blues once used red). But the problem is that it needs something else. I'd like some advice on what to add or take out. A bit of advice on how to make the arch look more 3d would be great as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildwing64 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Losing the text would be a start. It's better to keep something like this simple and not be distracted by text. PotD: 24/08/2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1insaneguy Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 Losing the text would be a start. It's better to keep something like this simple and not be distracted by text.Ok, should I put something in its place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaker52 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Losing the text would be a start. It's better to keep something like this simple and not be distracted by text.Ok, should I put something in its place?move the text to the outer circle. Also, round out the arch more, use a pic for reference. MUNCHEN LOWEN (WAFA) GULF SHORES OSPREYS (IBL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1insaneguy Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 Losing the text would be a start. It's better to keep something like this simple and not be distracted by text.Ok, should I put something in its place?move the text to the outer circle. Also, round out the arch more, use a pic for reference.Yeah, what I'm wondering about, is there a way to do that on paint.net? If there is I'd really like to know because I've tried everything I can think of. If not, are there any programs you can recommend for me to use that can do that?Also, I was using a picture of the Blues current alternate as reference which probably wasn't a smart move on my part.I see now what you mean. It's wider than I originally thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Monster Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 You might want to change the color of the Gateway arch. Since it's currently yellow, it looks like part of an advertisement for McDonald's. Also the real arch is more rounded than what you have here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsherald Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 A Blues logo without the classic winged note will always be missing something, especially if you are including the 5 lines from sheet music. How about including all the notes of the first line of the song?Back in the red era, they did have a secondary that included a trumpet, that actually wasn't bad. You might be able to do something with that. Use the rules of heraldry for more effective sports logos! i.e. keep it simple, use good contrast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York's Greatest Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Sorry but the St.Louis Arch looks like a McDonald's French Fry Arch. I suggest making it silver/grey with a gold trim. http://i.imgur.com/Yz8Jexr.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GK Warren Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 First thing I thought of when I saw this was "McDonald's"Also, you will need to come up with something pretty good, IMO, to get people excited about a logo without that famous winged note..That is one of the best, iconic logos in the NHL. It works on so many levels, and it is instanty recognizable without being over the top in any way.I love that Blues note logo. Looks great on a ball cap, shirt or anything else.... Including, of course, the jersey!I have no problem with your attempting it, but there are a few logos that I think are perfect, and the Blues are one of them. I hope you can come up with something that pops, because if you can break through my love for the original logo, I think you'd really have something special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1insaneguy Posted July 5, 2015 Author Share Posted July 5, 2015 You might want to change the color of the Gateway arch. Since it's currently yellow, it looks like part of an advertisement for McDonald's. Also the real arch is more rounded than what you have here.I looked at a couple of pictures because jaker52 recommended it, and I'm now seeing that I made it skinnier and less rounded.A Blues logo without the classic winged note will always be missing something, especially if you are including the 5 lines from sheet music. How about including all the notes of the first line of the song?Back in the red era, they did have a secondary that included a trumpet, that actually wasn't bad. You might be able to do something with that.I'm also thinking maybe a treble clef (you know those twirly things at the beginning of music) after seeing this picture. That trumpet idea is cool. I think I have an idea for it but I'm not totally sure what I'll do yet.Sorry but the St.Louis Arch looks like a McDonald's French Fry Arch. I suggest making it silver/grey with a gold trim.Hey that's not a bad idea, actually I'll see what I can do.First thing I thought of when I saw this was "McDonald's"Also, you will need to come up with something pretty good, IMO, to get people excited about a logo without that famous winged note..That is one of the best, iconic logos in the NHL. It works on so many levels, and it is instanty recognizable without being over the top in any way.I love that Blues note logo. Looks great on a ball cap, shirt or anything else.... Including, of course, the jersey!I have no problem with your attempting it, but there are a few logos that I think are perfect, and the Blues are one of them. I hope you can come up with something that pops, because if you can break through my love for the original logo, I think you'd really have something special.Alright, I will see what I can come up with here. (And yes, I like the blues logo too, I just thought it looked a little out of place on the current roundel.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcollis714 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Sorry but the St.Louis Arch looks like a McDonald's French Fry Arch. I suggest making it silver/grey with a gold trim.That's what I was going to say. Also, I like how you incorporated sheet music into the logo. Ihave to say though, that I like the new Blues color scheme better than this one. I would like to see this logo in those colors, as I think that that would make it look good. Favorites: Dallas Cowboys, New York Yankees, New York Rangers, New York Knicks, Cam Newton ND Irish Least Favorites: New York Giants, New York Mets, Washington Capitals, Pittsburgh Penguins, Philadelphia Eagles, OBJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1insaneguy Posted July 5, 2015 Author Share Posted July 5, 2015 So before I start making changes I want to get this clear. I should:Take out redAdd a trumpetKeep the arch, but make it wider and rounder and also silver.Keep the sheet music but present it better. (By adding musical notes or something to show it's music.)..and try to make it impress GK Warren, without using the wing note logo. (Is that all of it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC// Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 A happy meal voucher? LETS GO PENGUINS! 5x Stanley Cup Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan33 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 So before I start making changes I want to get this clear. I should:Take out redAdd a trumpetKeep the arch, but make it wider and rounder and also silver.Keep the sheet music but present it better. (By adding musical notes or something to show it's music.)..and try to make it impress GK Warren, without using the wing note logo. (Is that all of it?) Yes. But if you made all these changes, it'd result in an entirely different logo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pengin. Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 A happy meal voucher?I had the same thoughts- lose the text- align the circle. It looks like the GSW messy circle- lose the red- maybe make the arch blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worcat Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 please...no... my eyes.... Bleeding Blue since 1986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Squared Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 This could make a good shoulder patch if you removed the text, rounded out the arch, and maybe add a bit of contour to the water My TeePublic Shop My Instagram Art Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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