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Should Pete Rose be Reinstated into Baseball?

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Rumors are flying, and it seems that his ASG involvement may be seeing how he/ fans handle it. I say he shouldn't be banned. What he did was terrible, but he still earned his title as the all time hit king and I'd rather have him in the hall of fame than A-Rod or Barry Bonds. What do y'all think and why?

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He bet as a player. He bet as a manager.

Keep him out.

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He served his sentence let him in

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He has not served his sentence. The sentence was a lifetime ban.

I was all about his reinstatement until I learned of him betting on baseball as a player. He has been lying about it for 30 years and I think he should stay out of baseball. He does not need a plaque in Cooperstown for his cautionary tale to be properly told.

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If I'm not mistaken, didn't Pete Rose agree to and sign his own banishment?

I rest my case.

essentially, the man dug his own grave.

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This is posted in every MLB clubhouse. Rule 21(d)(2). Bet on a game that you have a role in, get banned for life. Seems pretty simple to me.

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As long as that rule stands, he'll remained banned forever.

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No.

He has lied every step of the way about what he did. Every time new evidence comes out, he lies and says that's the extent of his involvement.

He bet on baseball as a player. He bet on baseball as a manager. He bet on games he played in. He bet on games he managed. Since the 1920s, every single ballplayer has known what the penalty for that is.

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He has been lying about it for 30 years and I think he should stay out of baseball.

The Pats have been lying about what they did for the last 15 years as well, and Brady and Belichick are going to coast into the HOF. Rose did bet on baseball, and he did lie about it, but he didn't steal any World Series titles by using tactics that affected how the game went like Belichick and Ernie Adams were doing.

And (as Chet Coppock brought up in the mid-90's), MLB continued to give second and third chances to people like Steve Howe, who couldn't stop abusing. They also overlooked rampant steroid abuse for years.

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We don't know that Rose didn't throw games. At this point, we only have his word that he didn't, and he's shown for the past couple decades that his word is worth less than nothing.

That said, you can't compare what Rose did with what anyone else did, unless there's a rule posted in every single NFL locker room, or in the MLB offices, saying that what they did will also result in permanent banishment from the game.

Rose knew exactly what would happen if he got caught. He did it anyway. There's no analogy there to be drawn.

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What part of the words "permanently ineligible" don't we understand?

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No. No. No. No. No.

Betting was a huge problem in baseball before Pete Rose. No one (to my knowledge) has been caught betting since him. He needs to serve as the example to the younger generation - DONT DISRESPECT THE GAME. Because no matter who you are, and no matter what you've done, you are not bigger than the game.

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I don't care either way but I feel that even though he signed the agreement to be banished from baseball, a new commissioner has the right to change that if he feels compelled.

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We don't know that Rose didn't throw games. At this point, we only have his word that he didn't, and he's shown for the past couple decades that his word is worth less than nothing.

That said, you can't compare what Rose did with what anyone else did, unless there's a rule posted in every single NFL locker room, or in the MLB offices, saying that what they did will also result in permanent banishment from the game.

Rose knew exactly what would happen if he got caught. He did it anyway. There's no analogy there to be drawn.

I really doubt he did; he was too competitive.

But I don't think it matters. He did what he did and as we've discussed, betting on his team as a Manager messes with the integrity of the games in which he did not bet on them.

Whatever degree of sympathy one holds for him (I did for a while but as it continues to come out that he's incapable of telling the truth, I have lost it), there is something bigger at stake. No wiggle room can be shown for this; it's also about precedent. There has to be a strong showing that you cannot do what he did. And really, it's hard to feel bad for him...he knew the rule. He knew of the 1919 White Sox. He knew. And I am someone that holds no ill will toward steroid users from the days before MLB outlawed it. That was NOT up on the locker room wall. This was. And gambling on the game is the one thing (more than 'roids, doctoring balls, and corked bats combined) that could bring the game to an end. Keep him out for good.

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I can't help but feel some sympathy for the guy, but the precedent needed and still needs to be set. He put himself in the position and he needs to ride the whole thing out.

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I would have felt sympathy for him had he come clean in the beginning. Put it out there, cop to everything, and he'd probably be back in baseball today.

Instead, he's spent the past couple decades lying and lying and lying and smearing the people who caught him lying in the first place. No sympathy left - at best he's a selfish scumbag.

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He bet as a player. He bet as a manager.

Keep him out.

What my esteemed colleague said.

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I would have felt sympathy for him had he come clean in the beginning. Put it out there, cop to everything, and he'd probably be back in baseball today.

Instead, he's spent the past couple decades lying and lying and lying and smearing the people who caught him lying in the first place. No sympathy left - at best he's a selfish scumbag.

Agreed. I was in favor of reinstating him until it came out a few weeks ago that he bet while he was playing. At that point, I lost all sympathy for him.

Had he confessed right away, his situation would be very different right now. But that's not what happened.

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Let me in the hall for his accomplishments, but uphold the ban in all other areas.

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