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Beginning of the end of Arena Football League? (again)


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Maybe if Arena gives NY another try I may watch again but til then...

New York Knights, New York Cityhawks, New Jersery Red Dogs/Gladiators, and the New York Dragons.

Yeah, not a real run of success there.

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Maybe if Arena gives NY another try I may watch again but til then...

New York Knights, New York Cityhawks, New Jersery Red Dogs/Gladiators, and the New York Dragons.

Yeah, not a real run of success there.

The Dragons were a real weird case. They were very popular here on Long Island and was one of the league's top draws, but then they folded after the lockout. I know they were going to have new owners the season that ended up cancelled, but it was still strange that they went from a success story to ceasing to exist just like that.

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Not sure if this has been posted today. But the Voodoo and Outlaws are no longer in operation and thus have forfeited their playoff spots, leaving the Portland thunder, a 5-13 team, to take the fourth seed in the playoffs..... This is getting ridiculous....

http://m.arenafootball.com/m/sports/a-footbl/spec-rel/080915aad.html

It's dead. The AFL will need another tombstone.

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Doesn't help when one of the more "stable" franchises cannot host ArenaBowl as the circus is in town.

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/article17906714.html

Interestingly, that's happened to the National Lacrosse League twice in the past few years - the Rochester Knighthawks in 2007, and the Washington Stealth in 2013, had to move the Champion's Cup Final because their arena was already booked for that weekend - in both cases, also with a circus. In the Stealth's case, the arena they chose (Langley Events Center outside Vancouver) ended up becoming the team's permanent new home.

It would be morbidly funny if Arena Football ended up being outlasted by the freaking NLL.

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OK, since the league owns the Outlaws at that time, wouldn't make sense to just pay the players and let them basically get their asses handed to them by San Jose?

It seems very amateur of the Arena League to say 'Congrats, you made the playoffs... oh, wait... we're broke. We have to take away your playoff berth. Sorry Las Vegas.'

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Doesn't help when one of the more "stable" franchises cannot host ArenaBowl as the circus is in town.

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/article17906714.html

Interestingly, that's happened to the National Lacrosse League twice in the past few years - the Rochester Knighthawks in 2007, and the Washington Stealth in 2013, had to move the Champion's Cup Final because their arena was already booked for that weekend - in both cases, also with a circus. In the Stealth's case, the arena they chose (Langley Events Center outside Vancouver) ended up becoming the team's permanent new home.

It would be morbidly funny if Arena Football ended up being outlasted by the freaking NLL.

It's happened to the Atlanta Dream a couple times...having to play WNBA playoff games, including the WNBA Finals, at a different arena because of the arena already being booked for something else (which, whether it's the circus or Disney on Ice, is called "your secondary league makes peanuts compared to these events").

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Rumors are circulating that we may see both the Spokane Shock and Portland Thunder head to the IFL.

The ship is sinking quickly...

Wouldn't shock me. Iowa left the Arena League for the IFL largely because the travel was far cheaper (in the Arena League, the farthest Iowa had to go was Spokane or Portland to the west and Pittsburgh and Philadelphia to the east. In the IFL, the farthest Iowa would have to go is to the Tri-Cities in Washington to the west, Wichita Falls, Texas to the south and Green Bay to the east) and the competition is more to their level.

It wouldn't shock me if Spokane and Portland did jump to the IFL. It seems like a more viable option.

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Tank, it turns out that financing a league with artificially inflated expansion fees is not actually a long term solution.

don-garber-8840973912.jpg

What's that now?

Yeah see ultimately though MLS has something that the AFL doesn't have... their own venues and all the revenue controls that come with that.

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Tank, it turns out that financing a league with artificially inflated expansion fees is not actually a long term solution.

don-garber-8840973912.jpg

What's that now?

Yeah see ultimately though MLS has something that the AFL doesn't have... their own venues and all the revenue controls that come with that.

And crowd numbers that are increasing each year rather than decreasing.

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Lighten up, it's a expansion fee joke, nothing to do with the AFL vs MLS.

Guess I forgot the :P

While both file with the IRS as single entity, the AFL has teams which clearly pay players under the table since there is no true DP rule, there is no rule. Teams spend $$$ to make the playoffs then get their ROI from the playoffs since the league is responsible for the games.

Some Las Vegas details just tell you the day-to-day issues of such "professional" teams who work with a small staff and interns who get burned most.

http://m.reviewjournal.com/columns-blogs/ed-graney/may-eulogy-be-the-last-las-vegas-arena-football-teams

http://m.reviewjournal.com/sports/outlaws/outlaws-sad-saga-adds-arena-footballs-failed-las-vegas-history

And even old a$$ Robin Leach chimed in regarding Vince Neil:

http://m.lasvegassun.com/vegasdeluxe/2015/aug/10/vince-neil-clears-air-las-vegas-outlaws-ouster-pla/

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Funny how the first article seems to think the NHL is already a given. This isn't the first time a team looked guaranteed to go to Vegas. It's also sad that it came down to coaches picking up ice for practice.

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