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Let's all not-fondly recall when the NFL blew the hell out of call in the Buccaneers-Lions game in 2010. A phantom offensive PI call on Kellen Winslow took a 4th quarter TD off the board in a game the Bucs would lose in overtime. The NFL apologized for getting the call wrong, but the outcome stood. Tampa finished with 10 wins, but so did the Packers. That win the NFL took from the Bucs kept them out of the playoffs and lead to a Packers championship.

Now, the facemask call was horrible. It was very close, and I can see why a ref would call it that way on the field. However, this is why the NFL is crap. That should be challengeable. They built the rules of replay around "we don't want to admit that our refs make horrible calls." This game was over. You absolutely cannot let a call like that restart the game and change the outcome (and obviously the Lions blew it on the last play, and blew it in general).

In not letting that be reviewed, the NFL is basically saying ":censored: you, that's why." And that's their hole replay system. We don't want the refs to look bad. We don't want to slow down the game, so we'll let egregious crap go. Even with stuff they do allow you to challenge, you only have 2 per game. That's crap! You get a third if you get them both right? So if you get one wrong, but the refs blow 2 other calls against you, you're screwed? If the refs blow 5 calls against you, you're screwed no matter what? If the NFL was interested in getting it right, they'd give each coach 2 unsuccessful challenges before pulling the plug, so unlimited challenges of bad calls. But they're not, and they don't mind being embarrassed because people still watch and gamble on it.

I flat out have no memory of that...and ignorance for me woulda been bliss.

I am not certain that the call should be reviewable; some things have to not be reviewable. (Though last I heard whether or not a field goal is good is not reviewable and I have a big beef with that; I did once see the wrong call stand).

The larger question for me is "would that facemask have been called for an average or below quarterback?" Also (and tied to it), should common sense have prevailed when the Packers were starting to hurl the ball around like the Cal Bears and a thumb grazed Rodgers's facemask? The game was over. Over. The Packers may very well get a home playoff game out of that deal. Yeah, the Lions could done this or that but they did just enough, until it turned into a giant coin flip. Yes, this impacts

I grow more and more cynical about sports when I know there is value in certain teams going deep in the Playoffs; and after the Steelers treatment in the Cards and Seahawks Super Bowls, I don't put it past the league to do what they could to help the Lions win that game because the Packers are one of those teams that general fans want to see in the playoffs. And if the roles were reversed and Green Bay lost that way, people would be weeping for them. That was at play for the Fail Mary. Yeah, some of the angst was about the replacement refs...I remember telling a friend a week before that "this ref situation is going to end when the Packers, Steelers, Patriots, or Cowboys lose on a bad call." We would not have wept for Seattle had the tables turned. But I've digressed.

The NBA has been a joke for a while and the NFL is getting there.

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In general, it's getting dicey to allow a challenge of facemask penalties. Grazing the facemask is no longer a penalty. The ref only threw the flag because it looked like the player grabbed the facemask by the way he went down. Would that have been called on other players? Probably, but maybe not. Jay Cutler has been getting destroyed with various late hits this year, and the refs have twirled their batons like Irish cops and said, "Move it along. Nothin' to see here." But it's okay that Jay doesn't get calls. I mean, he claimed he had a strong arm, asked to be traded after the Broncos tried and failed to trade him, and then got injured in the championship game. What a jerk.

The penalty itself is only on the rule books for players' safety. It's a technicality which doesn't give a team an advantage (unless the player was trying to literally break another's neck). But in this case, restarting a game and allowing the outcome to change based on a technicality which ended up being wrong? Whoo-boy. That doesn't sit right with me, and it's not just because I hate the Packers.

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The problem with Cutler is that he doesn't make the NFL money because he's not charming enough to do a ton of advertisements, nor is he funny enough to be on SNL or cameo in movies.

Tack on the:

he claimed he had a strong arm, asked to be traded after the Broncos tried and failed to trade him, and then got injured in the championship game. What a jerk.

stuff which still circulates the internet/NFL idiot fandom, add some punchey-face, and bam - no :censored: s given.

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I watched the Grey Cup last week and coaches were able to challenge P.I. calls perhaps the NFL should think about reviews of certain penalties and I think the whole review system needs a shake up.

Three Challenges per game

Official Monitors in the booth to buzz down for reviews in addition to scoring play and TO.

I also think Game ending plays should be reviewed

Catches and fumbles need to be simplified

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The Lions are really screwing me over in the CCSLC Pick'em Pool. I glanced at the score and halftime and thought, "Yea! I went with the hot hand for once!"

Then I checked Twitter this morning...

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Let's all not-fondly recall when the NFL blew the hell out of call in the Buccaneers-Lions game in 2010. A phantom offensive PI call on Kellen Winslow took a 4th quarter TD off the board in a game the Bucs would lose in overtime. The NFL apologized for getting the call wrong, but the outcome stood. Tampa finished with 10 wins, but so did the Packers. That win the NFL took from the Bucs kept them out of the playoffs and lead to a Packers championship.

Now, the facemask call was horrible. It was very close, and I can see why a ref would call it that way on the field. However, this is why the NFL is crap. That should be challengeable. They built the rules of replay around "we don't want to admit that our refs make horrible calls." This game was over. You absolutely cannot let a call like that restart the game and change the outcome (and obviously the Lions blew it on the last play, and blew it in general).

In not letting that be reviewed, the NFL is basically saying ":censored: you, that's why." And that's their hole replay system. We don't want the refs to look bad. We don't want to slow down the game, so we'll let egregious crap go. Even with stuff they do allow you to challenge, you only have 2 per game. That's crap! You get a third if you get them both right? So if you get one wrong, but the refs blow 2 other calls against you, you're screwed? If the refs blow 5 calls against you, you're screwed no matter what? If the NFL was interested in getting it right, they'd give each coach 2 unsuccessful challenges before pulling the plug, so unlimited challenges of bad calls. But they're not, and they don't mind being embarrassed because people still watch and gamble on it.

Thanks for that!

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US Attorney General Loretta Lynch has been on FIFA's collective butts for years. It's about time she starts looking into the NFL and their "relationship" with gambling. There have been far too many "bad calls" lately.

Also, the Monopoly makes BILLIONS, directly and through ancillary businesses. You'd think they'd want to remove all possible thoughts of corruption. They have technology to fix grievously called penalties, especially at the end of games.

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Let's all not-fondly recall when the NFL blew the hell out of call in the Buccaneers-Lions game in 2010. A phantom offensive PI call on Kellen Winslow took a 4th quarter TD off the board in a game the Bucs would lose in overtime. The NFL apologized for getting the call wrong, but the outcome stood. Tampa finished with 10 wins, but so did the Packers. That win the NFL took from the Bucs kept them out of the playoffs and lead to a Packers championship.

Now, the facemask call was horrible. It was very close, and I can see why a ref would call it that way on the field. However, this is why the NFL is crap. That should be challengeable. They built the rules of replay around "we don't want to admit that our refs make horrible calls." This game was over. You absolutely cannot let a call like that restart the game and change the outcome (and obviously the Lions blew it on the last play, and blew it in general).

In not letting that be reviewed, the NFL is basically saying ":censored: you, that's why." And that's their hole replay system. We don't want the refs to look bad. We don't want to slow down the game, so we'll let egregious crap go. Even with stuff they do allow you to challenge, you only have 2 per game. That's crap! You get a third if you get them both right? So if you get one wrong, but the refs blow 2 other calls against you, you're screwed? If the refs blow 5 calls against you, you're screwed no matter what? If the NFL was interested in getting it right, they'd give each coach 2 unsuccessful challenges before pulling the plug, so unlimited challenges of bad calls. But they're not, and they don't mind being embarrassed because people still watch and gamble on it.

Thanks for that!

Yeah, I had happily forgotten all about that mess, so yeah, I appreciate it! :mad::P

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Just saw the replay on that play.

Absolutely terrible call. Should not have been called under any circumstance, let alone the last play of a game. The referees again determined not only the outcome of a game, but also impacted several teams.

The action on the field simply doesn't matter anymore. It's just window dressing. I don't think that the referees or the league rigged the game - if that was the case, it wouldn't have come down to a very low percentage hail mary play - but they definitely over-officiated and directly impacted the result.

The league sucks.

I'm pretty sure Las Vegas is making it's footprint more and more in the NFL. The NE-Den game looked awful fishy... and now this one (at the end of course) to cover the spread. I've kept an open-mind about all the fixing that goes on with NFL games. But, honestly it's starting to look more and more like it is. Hell, every football fan I talk to... one of the first things I hear is, "Hey, did you watch that game last night? Sure looked fake to me."

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Football used to be undoubtedly my favorite sport. I still say football when people ask me what my favorite sport is, but I definitely have to think a lot more about it now, as the NHL and EPL have slowly started to make it into the "favorite sport" conversation.

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Official preview of Eagles vs Patriots (NSFW)

I love around 2:10 where he starts going off about how they're named for a "territory" and not a state, or at 3:25 where he compares Tom Brady to John Cena.

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Okay, who's a Mormon on the Browns and Bengals? Utah has the game for some odd reason.

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Okay, who's a Mormon on the Browns and Bengals? Utah has the game for some odd reason.

Only reason I can come up with is to air the AFC-only game (even though Fox has that game) with CBS having single-game coverage this weekend.

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The Bucs have the same amount of wins vs the Falcons this season as they did in all of last season.

That's nice.

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