Robertsports Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 What do you think of the new class? Agree? Disagree? What do you think? I think Junior Seau, Tim Brown, and Jerome Bettis deserve it definitely. I was a little sad to see Kurt Warner and Morten Anderson got snubbed, but they will get into it eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Jerome Bettis... meh. @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 After Ray Guy got in I figured Mort shouldn't have an issue. If a guy who specializes as a punt or kick returner gets in before he does it's a shame. I think some people equate Kurt Warner's career as 2 years in St. Louis and a NFC Championship in Arizona. They overlook all the work he did in the AFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil G Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Kurt Warner is a borderline for sure, he won't get in next year due to Favre though. I bet Mort and Orlando Pace will get in next year with Marvin Harrison, Brett Favre, and someone like Tony Dungy or John Lynch. Bruh check out my last.fm And my Rate Your Music Fantasy Teams: Seattle Spacemen (CFA) Signature credit to Silent Wind of Doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Squared Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 After Ray Guy got in I figured Mort shouldn't have an issue. If a guy who specializes as a punt or kick returner gets in before he does it's a shame. I think some people equate Kurt Warner's career as 2 years in St. Louis and a NFC Championship in Arizona. They overlook all the work he did in the AFL.The work he did in the AFL means absolutely nothing relative to the Hall of Fame... "but it's the 'Pro Football' HOF!" No. Don't.He wasn't a first-balloter because of the dip in the middle of his career. There are too many QB's who were elite from start to finish to rush in a two-time journeyman. That second career resurance made his story that mich better, though. My TeePublic Shop My Instagram Art Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertsports Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 After Ray Guy got in I figured Mort shouldn't have an issue. If a guy who specializes as a punt or kick returner gets in before he does it's a shame. I think some people equate Kurt Warner's career as 2 years in St. Louis and a NFC Championship in Arizona. They overlook all the work he did in the AFL.The work he did in the AFL means absolutely nothing relative to the Hall of Fame... "but it's the 'Pro Football' HOF!" No. Don't.He wasn't a first-balloter because of the dip in the middle of his career. There are too many QB's who were elite from start to finish to rush in a two-time journeyman. That second career resurance made his story that mich better, though.If we are talking about quarterbacks, I still make an argument that Donovan McNabb deserves the Hall of Fame. Just mainly for what he did as a quarterback, player, and leader. Yes, he never won a championship. But neither did Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, Fran Tarkenton, or Sonny Jurgensen as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 After Ray Guy got in I figured Mort shouldn't have an issue. If a guy who specializes as a punt or kick returner gets in before he does it's a shame. I think some people equate Kurt Warner's career as 2 years in St. Louis and a NFC Championship in Arizona. They overlook all the work he did in the AFL. The work he did in the AFL means absolutely nothing relative to the Hall of Fame... "but it's the 'Pro Football' HOF!" No. Don't. He wasn't a first-balloter because of the dip in the middle of his career. There are too many QB's who were elite from start to finish to rush in a two-time journeyman. That second career resurance made his story that mich better, though.If we are talking about quarterbacks, I still make an argument that Donovan McNabb deserves the Hall of Fame. Just mainly for what he did as a quarterback, player, and leader. Yes, he never won a championship. But neither did Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, Fran Tarkenton, or Sonny Jurgensen as a starter. I've seen Kindergarteners with more leadership ability than McNabb. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Mick Tinglehoff, a good 30 years overdue. Easily one of the 2 or 3 best centers of his era, and unarguably a deserving HOFer.I'll be there Saturday for the ceremonies, and Sunday for the game. http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertsports Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 After Ray Guy got in I figured Mort shouldn't have an issue. If a guy who specializes as a punt or kick returner gets in before he does it's a shame. I think some people equate Kurt Warner's career as 2 years in St. Louis and a NFC Championship in Arizona. They overlook all the work he did in the AFL. The work he did in the AFL means absolutely nothing relative to the Hall of Fame... "but it's the 'Pro Football' HOF!" No. Don't.He wasn't a first-balloter because of the dip in the middle of his career. There are too many QB's who were elite from start to finish to rush in a two-time journeyman. That second career resurance made his story that mich better, though.If we are talking about quarterbacks, I still make an argument that Donovan McNabb deserves the Hall of Fame. Just mainly for what he did as a quarterback, player, and leader. Yes, he never won a championship. But neither did Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, Fran Tarkenton, or Sonny Jurgensen as a starter. I've seen Kindergarteners with more leadership ability than McNabb.37276 career passing yards, 234 career touchdowns, 86.5 passer rating, 3459 rushing yards, 29 rushing touchdowns, 25 game winning drives, 17 career comebacks, 5 division titles, 7 playoff appearances, 5 NFC championships, and a super bowl appearance. If that is not a hall of fame career, I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Probably one in which the Eagles make more than one trip to the Super Bowl, since boy howdy they were talented enough to do so, especially since the year they actually broke through they were almost literally the only team in the NFC that was actually competent. (Atlanta gets partial credit for that season's strategy of "Sit back and let Michael Vick do something.") McNabb's stats are meaningless, for they hide a career full of choking, base incompetence, poor decisions, and wasted potential. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yeah, I think you're being just a tad harsh. McNabb was, for MANY reasons, a really really hard guy to like. But he was definitely in that upper eschelon for a few seasons despite almost never having anyone to throw to. He's borderline, at best. But for some reason I still think he'll get in eventually. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Meh, when it really counted, McNabb wasn't there. With the most triumphant example being that NFC Championship loss to Tampa. In Philly. Where it was below freezing. And McNabb had 3 turnovers. Seriously though, Philly had a run of 3 straight seasons where they were the top seed in the NFC, only to lay an egg in the Championship game the first two times, and escaped doing so the third by virtue of there being no competent competition in the entire conference. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Mick Tinglehoff, a good 30 years overdue. Easily one of the 2 or 3 best centers of his era, and unarguably a deserving HOFer.I'll be there Saturday for the ceremonies, and Sunday for the game.It's ridiculous that it took so long for Mick Tinglehoff to get in. Long overdue. EDIT: No way is Donovan McNabb a HOF QB. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertsports Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Meh, when it really counted, McNabb wasn't there. With the most triumphant example being that NFC Championship loss to Tampa. In Philly. Where it was below freezing. And McNabb had 3 turnovers.Seriously though, Philly had a run of 3 straight seasons where they were the top seed in the NFC, only to lay an egg in the Championship game the first two times, and escaped doing so the third by virtue of there being no competent competition in the entire conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertsports Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Probably one in which the Eagles make more than one trip to the Super Bowl, since boy howdy they were talented enough to do so, especially since the year they actually broke through they were almost literally the only team in the NFC that was actually competent. (Atlanta gets partial credit for that season's strategy of "Sit back and let Michael Vick do something.")McNabb's stats are meaningless, for they hide a career full of choking, base incompetence, poor decisions, and wasted potential.I can see your point. I'd still pick him over Vick though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportzfan Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Probably one in which the Eagles make more than one trip to the Super Bowl, since boy howdy they were talented enough to do so, especially since the year they actually broke through they were almost literally the only team in the NFC that was actually competent. (Atlanta gets partial credit for that season's strategy of "Sit back and let Michael Vick do something.")McNabb's stats are meaningless, for they hide a career full of choking, base incompetence, poor decisions, and wasted potential.I can see your point. I'd still pick him over Vick though.He doesn't deserve to be in the HoF either. What point are you trying to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertsports Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Mick Tinglehoff, a good 30 years overdue. Easily one of the 2 or 3 best centers of his era, and unarguably a deserving HOFer.I'll be there Saturday for the ceremonies, and Sunday for the game.It's ridiculous that it took so long for Mick Tinglehoff to get in. Long overdue. EDIT: No way is Donovan McNabb a HOF QB. Not even close. I can see your point. As far as Vikings and playoff appearances, you could make a argument for Wade Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportzfan Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Mick Tinglehoff, a good 30 years overdue. Easily one of the 2 or 3 best centers of his era, and unarguably a deserving HOFer.I'll be there Saturday for the ceremonies, and Sunday for the game.It's ridiculous that it took so long for Mick Tinglehoff to get in. Long overdue. EDIT: No way is Donovan McNabb a HOF QB. Not even close. I can see your point. As far as Vikings and playoff appearances, you could make a argument for Wade Wilson.wtf are you talking about? No argument can be made for a one time pro bowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertsports Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Probably one in which the Eagles make more than one trip to the Super Bowl, since boy howdy they were talented enough to do so, especially since the year they actually broke through they were almost literally the only team in the NFC that was actually competent. (Atlanta gets partial credit for that season's strategy of "Sit back and let Michael Vick do something.")McNabb's stats are meaningless, for they hide a career full of choking, base incompetence, poor decisions, and wasted potential.I can see your point. I'd still pick him over Vick though.He doesn't deserve to be in the HoF either. What point are you trying to make?I was just trying to see what people think. I just remember watching football on Sunday and it seemed that the eagles would always win with Mcnabb. At least for a few years. I also thought that he was fun to watch, Kind of like Aaron Rodgers is fun to watch, even if you not a Packers fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertsports Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Mick Tinglehoff, a good 30 years overdue. Easily one of the 2 or 3 best centers of his era, and unarguably a deserving HOFer.I'll be there Saturday for the ceremonies, and Sunday for the game.It's ridiculous that it took so long for Mick Tinglehoff to get in. Long overdue. EDIT: No way is Donovan McNabb a HOF QB. Not even close. I can see your point. As far as Vikings and playoff appearances, you could make a argument for Wade Wilson.wtf are you talking about? No argument can be made for a one time pro bowler.Mick Tinglehoff, a good 30 years overdue. Easily one of the 2 or 3 best centers of his era, and unarguably a deserving HOFer.I'll be there Saturday for the ceremonies, and Sunday for the game.It's ridiculous that it took so long for Mick Tinglehoff to get in. Long overdue. EDIT: No way is Donovan McNabb a HOF QB. Not even close. I can see your point. As far as Vikings and playoff appearances, you could make a argument for Wade Wilson.wtf are you talking about? No argument can be made for a one time pro bowler.I see your point. What about Randell Cunningham? Or Robert Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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