Cleveland Fan Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Why would the NFL (some of the on-field t-shirts) or NBA (practice jerseys) have any team-issue exclusive gear rather than make money from selling them to fans?For anybody wondering what NFL t-shirts are team-issue exclusive, here's a couple examples (Browns):This shirt in orange:http://www.nflshop.com/Cleveland_Browns_Men_T-Shirts/Mens_Cleveland_Browns_Nike_Gray_Legend_Staff_Practice_Performance_T-ShirtThis one in white and gray:http://www.nflshop.com/Cleveland_Browns_Men_T-Shirts/Mens_Cleveland_Browns_Nike_Brown_Facility_T-Shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinturner95 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I'm honestly confused at what you're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland Fan Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 Why are some items (like NBA practice jerseys and some colors of NFL on-field t-shirts) not sold to the general public? Those two examples in particular seem like unlikely items to reserve for team issue only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRicSlick Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 It's supply and demand. When more people want practice jerseys, the leagues wil be there to supply them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland Fan Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 It's supply and demand. Who wants a practice jersey?I've talked to plenty of people who have asked me where they can buy a Cavs practice jersey (I've also read some internet discussions elsewhere - non-logo/uniform boards - involving people asking about where to buy NBA practice jerseys. Those usually end with the OP being shouted down by those who see any authentic gear being sold as an offense to the players). Also, the NBA practice jerseys aren't the bland generic stuff you see in the NFL. They're pretty intricate designs that would probably sell pretty well (as the MLB and the - fairly bland, in my opinion - NHL practice jerseys do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportzfan Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 It's supply and demand. Who wants a practice jersey? I've talked to plenty of people who have asked me where they can buy a Cavs practice jersey (I've also read some internet discussions elsewhere - non-logo/uniform boards - involving people asking about where to buy NBA practice jerseys. Those usually end with the OP being shouted down by those who see any authentic gear being sold as an offense to the players). Also, the NBA practice jerseys aren't the bland generic stuff you see in the NFL. They're pretty intricate designs that would probably sell pretty well (as the MLB and the - fairly bland, in my opinion - NHL practice jerseys do).Intricate as in Adidas stripes on the sides, and generic number and wordmarks, not exactly ground breaking. Also people may want some but do you think they would want them for $60+, or atleast a significant amount of people who would choose them over a swing man jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland Fan Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 It's supply and demand. Who wants a practice jersey? I've talked to plenty of people who have asked me where they can buy a Cavs practice jersey (I've also read some internet discussions elsewhere - non-logo/uniform boards - involving people asking about where to buy NBA practice jerseys. Those usually end with the OP being shouted down by those who see any authentic gear being sold as an offense to the players). Also, the NBA practice jerseys aren't the bland generic stuff you see in the NFL. They're pretty intricate designs that would probably sell pretty well (as the MLB and the - fairly bland, in my opinion - NHL practice jerseys do).Intricate as in Adidas stripes on the sides, and generic number and wordmarks, not exactly ground breaking. Also people may want some but do you think they would want them for $60+, or atleast a significant amount of people who would choose them over a swing man jersey.It sounds to me (anecdotal eveidence, admittedly) like there would be some who already have all of their teams' swingmans and would likely buy a practice jersey over a fashion jersey or a one-off/one-season only swingman.Also, why do you think they sell so well in MLB and the NHL (especially MLB), but NBA fans scoff at the idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportzfan Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 because an nba practice jersey is nothing but some mesh and screen printing. MLB BP jerseys are coolbase which is a much nicer material and stitched on wordmarks, numbers, and NOBs and look much more presentable to wear in public than a pinny. I've never seen an NHL practice jersey at any retailer so I doubt many of those sell. You also see BP jerseys a lot more than other practice jerseys because that's what they'll wear at spring training and you almost always see one in a pre game show, you very rarely see other sports practice jerseys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland Fan Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 Thanks for the responses. Does anyone have any idea about why some colors of NFL on-field t-shirts aren't available at retail?By the way, re: where I've seen the NHL practice jerseys, it's mostly been at team shops and hockey-specific retailers (brick-and-mortar and online). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGWB Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 The first example I could think of was this shirt that the Sabres wore during the 2011 playoffs. I work at the Sabres Store and was asked by countless customers if we were selling them, so the demand was certainly present.The shirt has (I would assume) sixteen "16"s along the sleeves, representing the number of wins needed to win the Cup. Also, on the chest there is an outline of the Cup with the Sabres logo inside. I certainly would've picked one up, had they been available to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElwoodCuse Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 The NHL doesn't even sell authentic jerseys any more, they are called "retail authentics" and are overseas-made garbage. You have to really hunt down a Canada-made on-ice authentic.Sometimes they show up on Ice Jerseys or River City Sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Squared Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Product oversaturation and target marketing are the big reasons... retail merch is very specifically designed to meet the wants/needs of the target market(s)... I would personally love game-cut jerseys with elastic sleeves, but market research suggests that wouldn't hit a wide enough market (hence why Nike's replicas are boxier and more "generous" through the mid-section)... luckily, you can often find actual game-issued jerseys on eBay, and often for less $$$ than a baggy replica costs in stores. My TeePublic Shop My Instagram Art Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_tattoos Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I like the idea of having items exclusively available to the players. Something only members of the "fraternity" get to have. Like a high school varsity jacket, to a lesser extent. Hotter Than July > Thriller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest23 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Product oversaturation and target marketing are the big reasons... retail merch is very specifically designed to meet the wants/needs of the target market(s)... I would personally love game-cut jerseys with elastic sleeves, but market research suggests that wouldn't hit a wide enough market (hence why Nike's replicas are boxier and more "generous" through the mid-section)... luckily, you can often find actual game-issued jerseys on eBay, and often for less $$$ than a baggy replica costs in stores.That assertion is barely even relevant in this situation. This is basic element of the product development cycle where function and cost are the driving factors. There's definitely a market for authentic jerseys but the fit and cost of the on field simply would not work in a retail setting. You would also have sourcing issues as there's no way game quality product could be produced at the required scale. Don't get me wrong, research is an important tool for design but this consideration would be deemed unfeasible right out of the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Why would the NFL (some of the on-field t-shirts) or NBA (practice jerseys) have any team-issue exclusive gear rather than make money from selling them to fans?For anybody wondering what NFL t-shirts are team-issue exclusive, here's a couple examples (Browns):This shirt in orange:http://www.nflshop.com/Cleveland_Browns_Men_T-Shirts/Mens_Cleveland_Browns_Nike_Gray_Legend_Staff_Practice_Performance_T-ShirtThis one in white and gray:http://www.nflshop.com/Cleveland_Browns_Men_T-Shirts/Mens_Cleveland_Browns_Nike_Brown_Facility_T-ShirtI don't think these are team-issue exclusive if they are selling them on the NFL shop. Labeling them as "staff" or "facility" is pretty much semantics. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman14 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I believe he is saying that those specific colors he listed aren't available for purchase, not the basic design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 That makes sense. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffCenteredScoreboard Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 because an nba practice jersey is nothing but some mesh and screen printing. MLB BP jerseys are coolbase which is a much nicer material and stitched on wordmarks, numbers, and NOBs and look much more presentable to wear in public than a pinny. I've never seen an NHL practice jersey at any retailer so I doubt many of those sell. You also see BP jerseys a lot more than other practice jerseys because that's what they'll wear at spring training and you almost always see one in a pre game show, you very rarely see other sports practice jerseys.i own an orange isles practice jersey and see a couple handful of practice jerseys at games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Didn't hockey players all have the same light blue ringer undershirt back in the day? From what I remembered there wasn't any logos on it but every single player (at least every Flyer) had the same one. I'm fairly certain other teams did too because you'd see it when a jersey got pulled up during a fight. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discrim Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I remember seeing NBA practice jerseys in catalogs back in the mid 90s. For some reason the only one I recall from memory is the Suns version which still had their 80s PHOENIX lettering. I figure they could do something a bit more interesting with em seeing as the occasional summer league games are on TV, streamed online and such.Far as NFL practice jerseys, most teams go the basic route (numbers on the front and back, name on back depending on team [Packers do, Bears don't, for example]), others like the Eagles, Chargers, Texans and Broncos wear simplified versions of their game design. And some teams used to recycle old game jerseys (the Packers did this until the mid-late 90s IIRC, the Chargers until their overhaul...I have no idea whether the Ravens do this or not...they're probably the only ones right now if they do). Even the relative darling of NFL practice jerseys, that of the Cowboys, pales somewhat in comparison to a half-decent BP jersey, though.Hockey's ringer tee...something I sorta noticed but never gave much though to til you brought it up. And now I can't unsee it. A strong mind gets high off success, a weak mind gets high off bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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