NFL to Los Angeles Rebranding

[29texan 686]

If generic names like "Titans" and "Texans" can be resurrected, I think "Bulldogs" would do just fine.

... how is "Texans" generic, if I may ask?

It's like naming a Kansas teams "Kansans". Nevermind the fact that there was also 2 other Texans franchise, one which is in the same league as the current.

That still doesn't tell me how it's "generic". There's only one Texas. There's only one Kansas. There's only one California... it's unique because you can only use it in one place.

Actually, it can be . . . and has been . . . used in three places in five leagues.*

Dallas -- NFL, AFL, Arena

Houston -- WFL, NFL

San Antonio -- CFL

It could also be used in Austin, El Paso, Lubbock, Waco . . .

* -- Just counting football. I'm not sure if it has been used for anything else.

I think you missed my point.

There is only one TEXAS, so using "Texans" is unique in that it is used in one part of the country.

[colortv 1,897]

Looks like the Chargers may in fact completely re-brand the team(new name, logo) if they move to LA:

http://www.insidesocal.com/nfl/2015/10/27/would-chargers-consider-rebranding-upon-moving-to-l-a/

[Gothamite 23,650]

Looks like the Chargers may in fact completely re-brand the team(new name, logo) if they move to LA:

http://www.insidesocal.com/nfl/2015/10/27/would-chargers-consider-rebranding-upon-moving-to-l-a/

One blogger saying he thinks they should does not equal they "may in fact" do anything.

[colortv 1,897]

Looks like the Chargers may in fact completely re-brand the team(new name, logo) if they move to LA:

http://www.insidesocal.com/nfl/2015/10/27/would-chargers-consider-rebranding-upon-moving-to-l-a/

One blogger saying he thinks they should does not equal they "may in fact" do anything.

He already said it's not based on his own thoughts:

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No

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@DailyNewsVinny So, you didn't just pull this out of thin air? Just curious.

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Wish I could take credit for it

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@DailyNewsVinny Vinny, is this article based on things you're hearing as a possibility? Or just an idea you thought of? It's a good idea btw

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[guest23 1,442]

Looks like the Chargers may in fact completely re-brand the team(new name, logo) if they move to LA:

http://www.insidesocal.com/nfl/2015/10/27/would-chargers-consider-rebranding-upon-moving-to-l-a/

One blogger saying he thinks they should does not equal they "may in fact" do anything.

He already said it's not based on his own thoughts:

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@DailyNewsVinny So, you didn't just pull this out of thin air? Just curious.

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Wish I could take credit for it

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@DailyNewsVinny Vinny, is this article based on things you're hearing as a possibility? Or just an idea you thought of? It's a good idea btw

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I can't believe I read that blog post...the guy is completely spitballing and passing it off as a story. Based on his logic any barstool conversation with any random could be cited as a possibility.

[Gothamite 23,650]

Exactly. Utter nonsense to fill a blog post. And his vague tweets don't give it any more credibility.

[leopard88 3,066]

If generic names like "Titans" and "Texans" can be resurrected, I think "Bulldogs" would do just fine.

... how is "Texans" generic, if I may ask?

It's like naming a Kansas teams "Kansans". Nevermind the fact that there was also 2 other Texans franchise, one which is in the same league as the current.

That still doesn't tell me how it's "generic". There's only one Texas. There's only one Kansas. There's only one California... it's unique because you can only use it in one place.

Actually, it can be . . . and has been . . . used in three places in five leagues.*

Dallas -- NFL, AFL, Arena

Houston -- WFL, NFL

San Antonio -- CFL

It could also be used in Austin, El Paso, Lubbock, Waco . . .

* -- Just counting football. I'm not sure if it has been used for anything else.

I think you missed my point.

There is only one TEXAS, so using "Texans" is unique in that it is used in one part of the country.

I understood. The problem is that the name can plausibly be used in multiple cities within Texas.

The same would be true in many states (Florida, California, Pennsylvania). You might be able to pull it off for Georgians, Marylanders, Coloradans(?), Oregonians, Michiganders because those states have one dominant city . . . except those names are even worse than Texans.

[AgentColon2 2,409]

I wouldn't have suspected the LA thread to have derailed into such a long conversation about how bad the nickname Texans is, and it IS bad on many levels.

I do recall reading somewhere that if the Chargers did move to LA that San Diego would become he #1 destination for future relocations. Could you imagine the SD people having to deal with the Raiders coming to town permanently? The space/time continuum would unravel.

[nash61 1,685]

I understood. The problem is that the name can plausibly be used in multiple cities within Texas.

The same would be true in many states (Florida, California, Pennsylvania). You might be able to pull it off for Georgians, Marylanders, Coloradans(?), Oregonians, Michiganders because those states have one dominant city . . . except those names are even worse than Texans.

Sup?

[leopard88 3,066]

I understood. The problem is that the name can plausibly be used in multiple cities within Texas.

The same would be true in many states (Florida, California, Pennsylvania). You might be able to pull it off for Georgians, Marylanders, Coloradans(?), Oregonians, Michiganders because those states have one dominant city . . . except those names are even worse than Texans.

Sup?

. . . which worked just about as "well" as Texans, since Tampa/St. Petersburg, Orlando and Jacksonville are also big enough cities to support Big 4 teams.

The name actually worked better when the team became a regional franchise near the end of its existence.

From Wiki --

Following the 1969-1970 season, new owner Ned Doyle dropped "Miami" from the team's name and made it a "regional" franchise, scheduling games in Miami (back at the Miami Beach Convention Center), Tampa-St. Petersburg at the Curtis Hixon Hall and Bayfront Arena, Jacksonville at the Jacksonville Memorial Coliseum, and in West Palm Beach at the West Palm Beach Auditorium.

For the 1971-1972 season, the Floridians split their home games between Miami and Tampa.

[the admiral 28,155]

Texas is so synonymous with football that Texans works as a football nickname. It would sound foolish in any other sport, and any other demonym would sound foolish in football. Of course Oilers is superior, but "Cosmos" or "Apollos" or whatever else is space-themed would just scream Fictitious Team For Movie, because it's close enough to Astros and Rockets. Other than letting the Oilers relocate in the first place and keep their intellectual property in the process, the NFL got this one right.

[Gothamite 23,650]

Texas is so synonymous with football

Yeah, Cowboys football.

This name has always screamed "desperate cry for attention".

"Toros" was never one of the options they floated, but it would have been much better. And it fits their excellent logo.

[the admiral 28,155]

No, football on every level, all the way down to those weird little seven-man teams that play in dead-ass West Texas tumbleweed towns.

[BrianLion 1,458]

If LA had gotten an expansion franchise, sure. But they're not - they'll have one or more of these three teams instead. And whichever those are, the current names will come with them.

Raiders or Rams would definitely be welcomed back, but if the Chargers go, as I said before, they should leave the name, colors and history in San Diego and change to this:

They'd be sued so quickly by Marvel/Disney it would make your head spin.

[Gothamite 23,650]

Besides, it's about as silly a name for a sports team as it is for group of funnybook super-heroes.

It's one of those words that sounds really cool and all until you think about it for about 30 seconds; what exactly would they be avenging?

[WideRight 2,460]

I don't see any of the teams rebranding for LA, since all 3 have a history there (some greater than others), but if they did there are so many name options for an LA team that you could go on all day. You could play up Hollywood (Stars, for example) or the Spanish/Mexican Heritage (Dons, Diablos, Aztecs, Conquistadors, etc.) or names from the past (Dons) or local fauna (Condors, Sharks, Cougars). Just a lot of great options. Too bad the NFL is not looking to put expansion teams in LA, I would actually prefer it, because if Oakland, SD or St. Louis move there I don't see a team jumping ship to take over any of those cities, so the odds of any new team names coming around soon are slim. Maybe London if the Jags relocate, but even that is not a gimme.

[AgentColon2 2,409]

New York Islanders also falls into the realm of dumb nicknames.

[Gothamite 23,650]

New York Islanders also falls into the realm of dumb nicknames.

How so? It's what you call the people there, it's region-specific, lends itself to good imagery (which, in fairness, they haven't utilized all that well) and it's not being used by any other high-level team or school.

[rams80 4,197]

If LA had gotten an expansion franchise, sure. But they're not - they'll have one or more of these three teams instead. And whichever those are, the current names will come with them.

Raiders or Rams would definitely be welcomed back, but if the Chargers go, as I said before, they should leave the name, colors and history in San Diego and change to this:

Why? Because we're going to pretend any of those 3 markets will ever get a replacement team in the next 2-3 decades?

[AgentColon2 2,409]

New York Islanders also falls into the realm of dumb nicknames.

How so? It's what you call the people there, it's region-specific, lends itself to good imagery (which, in fairness, they haven't utilized all that well) and it's not being used by any other high-level team or school.

I'm very familiar being I live on said island. I just think it's in league with Texans.