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I like how the description has the boilerplate "Six panels with eyelets".  I'm guessing there's three panels max and no eyelets.

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With the new possibilities of the Diamond Era, I'm surprised they didn't just sublimate three small pinstripes around the cap and call it a day.

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So glad the Pirates brought out a yellow alt. Wish it was a new button down one. Wonder if the future will have them bring out that whole set with the yellow hat? More $ right?

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18 hours ago, aawagner011 said:

IMO, all sports uniforms look better without the player names on the back. Unneeded and probably only there for merchandising.

 

Considering the era in which names were added, I'd argue that it had nothing to do with merchandising.  

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Some interesting insight regarding the Diamondbacks uniform design process, Fox Sports AZ  is debuting a TV show or episode on Friday evening that gives an in depth look at everything that went into the new uniforms. I'm a huge fan of the original uniforms with the purple, teal, & copper. I'm not really a fan of the red look and i almost hate to admit but the alternates with the teal are growing on me.

 

Theres a link to the tweet that provided the teaser video. Lots of cool stuff with prototype uniforms and a few of the different design elements they experimented with. Warning, it does include a lot of gradients, snake skin, mismatch of red with copper and odd uses of teal in some designs.

 

Sorry for the blast of media and images but i thought it was some really cool stuff being shared and i think its always interesting to really see what happens on the inside of these processes no matter how you feel about the designs or the end results.

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19 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

Considering the era in which names were added, I'd argue that it had nothing to do with merchandising.  

A fair point. Most likely added for home fans to identify visiting players. In this day and age with television, I think it's safe to say we no longer need the names, but that their value today still lies with merchandising.

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4 hours ago, Ice_Cap said:

Can anyone tell me what the San Diego Padres' team colours are?

All of the colors

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2 hours ago, aawagner011 said:

A fair point. Most likely added for home fans to identify visiting players. In this day and age with television, I think it's safe to say we no longer need the names, but that their value today still lies with merchandising.

 

Well names were added to the backs of home jerseys at about the same time they were added to road unis.  Names are still needed in a lot of cases.  TV doesn't display names all the time.  

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3 hours ago, Bucs007 said:

That hat is perfect is so many ways. Aside from the batterman on the back (which is no biggie), this is perfect. The Pirates really do their ridiculous 70s throwbacks just right... 

 

Actually, the hat is not perfect. The P should not touch the top and bottom stripes.

 

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Also, the pants are wrong. The waistband on the black pants should have black, white, and yellow stripes from top to bottom.

 

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This is the ugliest uniform ever; and the 1979 World Series was the worst-looking one of all time. But, if the Pirates are going to use this uniform, they should get the details right. 

 

P.S. - Even that era's ridiculous Pirates uniforms look better (less awful?) without the name on the back.

 

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Just now, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

Also, the pants are wrong. The waistband on the black pants should have black, white, and yellow stripes from top to bottom.

 

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Actually, I think the pants are indeed correct......the bagginess of the jersey just overhangs on the pant waist stripe in the pic

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What an absolute mess that D Backs rebrand was. No wonder it ended up so mish mosh and confusing. 

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Hehe.  It's funny to see the same conversation about names on jerseys pop up a month or two later, with similar arguments, although I can't remember if it was the same people.  I consider NNOB to be the more professional look.  Anyone can get names on a jersey at their local shirt store.  Having your name on the back feels more like an "I'm an amateur and this is the most eyes I'm ever going to have on me, so I want to display my name proudly" thing.  If you're actually a professional ball player, you should have fans in the stands clamoring for you who know your number.  No one confused Jeter for anyone else.  He was "Shorstop, number 2, Derek Jeter, number 2."  And, yeah, he was the most famous player, but people still knew 55, 21, 20, 51, 33, 18, 62, etc.

 

And that's not to mention the whole dynamic of being part of a team vs. putting yourself out there.  I'll let my favorite movie explain.

 

 

Although, in all honesty, it's probably just mostly the fact that being a Yankees fan, all my life this was the real thing...

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...and this was the cheap thing they were illegally printing and selling for a couple bucks on the street...

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On the subject of the Diamondbacks stuff, am I the only one who's kind of really sad they didn't go with Copper.  I think that looks miles better than what they went with.

 

 

3 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

This is the ugliest uniform ever; and the 1979 World Series was the worst-looking one of all time. But, if the Pirates are going to use this uniform, they should get the details right. 

 

Wha?  Really?  What about...

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Was going to add the red Indians uni, but looking back at the pictures I could find, it looked better than pictures I'd seen in the past.  On a side note, typing "red Indians" into a search engine will not give you the picture of that uniform.

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6 hours ago, dsaline97 said:
4 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

 

Actually, the hat is not perfect. The P should not touch the top and bottom stripes.

 

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Also, the pants are wrong. The waistband on the black pants should have black, white, and yellow stripes from top to bottom.

 

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This is the ugliest uniform ever; and the 1979 World Series was the worst-looking one of all time. But, if the Pirates are going to use this uniform, they should get the details right. 

 

P.S. - Even that era's ridiculous Pirates uniforms look better (less awful?) without the name on the back.

 

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I'm sure this guy wouldn't mind playing for them.

 

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.Like all uniforms, success makes a difference in how we remember a specific look. The Pirates only had two bad seasons during the 1977-84 lifespan of that uniform set, and there were also a number of outstanding players who wore that style. The style was partly a reflection of the era, with the retro look of the pillbox hat added to the mix. Stargell's WS game 7 game winning homer was launched with that uniform combo.

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19 hours ago, Ice_Cap said:

Can anyone tell me what the San Diego Padres' team colours are?

It is probably easier to name non-Padres colors.

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How can NNOB be the more professional look if your jersey can be given to any minor leaguer/non-roster invite/september callup and can be used by them without anyone knowing that was your jersey first? With name on back, if your jersey has your name it can't be used by anyone else. Its YOUR jersey. To me that's more professional than the high school look of "oh grab whatever jersey number you want out of that pile of old jerseys right there."

 

But really, the debate I wanted to make a point out of was the idea that NNOB is better because your home fans should already know your numbers. That's such an exaggerated theory, it's not entirely accurate. I'm as die hard a Marlins fan as probably anyone on this planet and of course I can tell you the jersey number of every major player on my team... but there's plenty of lower level guys I may be unsure of their number. Am I gonna remember the number of every relief pitcher that comes up throught the season? And if I can't remember every single player number... why would anyone else in the crowd know them all? Forget the Marlins in my case but any home town crowd. The number of people who fall into the category of "die hard fan who knows every jersey number" is so miniscule it's probably a laughable number. Are we forgetting how many fans in any ballpark are casual fans? Or even "less than casual fans" who got a free ticket, or got invited by a friend, or at simply at their first game ever? How about kids? Even kids that love their team won't know the whole roster of numbers outside of their favorite players.

 

Since the Yankees seem to be prime suspect number one for that argument... I wish there was a way of going to a Yankee home game and polling every fan in attendance to see who can really identify all the players by number alone. I think the results would surprise us.

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11 hours ago, TVIXX said:

The Brewers will be going late 90's jerseys on July 30

If this is true, it's the gem of this thread.

 

The idea of the Brewers ever again for one second acknowledging that look never occurred to me.  It was a beautiful uniform; best in team history by a TON. I know it'll never be back full-time, but I'll make sure to look for highlights on July 30. 

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Anyone see the clips of Arizona working out in their new/spring unis for the first time? The sublimination on the shoulders doesn't look as bad as I thought they would but the garbage blood stained pants look horrific with one huge reason why. When they did the unveiling the pants were always shown with (almost entirely) Sedona Red shoes so that it gave the appearance that the pant legs were connected to the shoes and the shoe color was subliminating/bleeding into the snake skin pattern going up the leg... well that's theoretically how they're supposed to look but in reality the players were wearing a lot of black and white shoes so there was no cool connection and it just looked like they stepped in a pool of blood before taking the field. Such crap.

 

Less of an issue but I still can't get past the sleeve piping not going entirely around the sleeves. And, as we expected, the ST cap with the snake head logo is clearly the best part of the uniforms.

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