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I loved the "Anaheim Angels" name ... it feels less commercial and less money driven than "Los Angeles Angels."

That's pretty ironic, considering that the city of Anaheim paid the team to use it.

Which is understandable in wanting to build a brand and what not, but not worth it in the end. Last time I checked the Anaheim Angels won the 2002 World Series.

The Brooklyn Dodgers won the 1955 World Series. Didn't stop them from changing their name, either.

"Anaheim" represents the Disney-era ownership which, beyond 2002, wasn't all that remarkable. I'm not saying "Los Angeles" is a much better name, but it harkens back to the original name of the club, and gives the team some kind of fringe attachment to the rest of the media market (i.e. in the same vein as the "New England" Patriots.)

Perhaps the best solution is to go back to the "California" Angels name, even though it doesn't really make much sense anymore with the A's. But that's still the moniker they've had the longest, and seemingly avoided any identify fights between LA and Anaheim.

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Is the name change confirmed? Or is it just speculation?

It's been confirmed, allegedly. But no one says the "of Anaheim" part in everyday parlance, so this legal change won't really make that much of a difference to the general public.

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I think the 2nd team that going to changed their uniforms with the Padres is either going to be the Brewers or the White Sox

Could it be the Braves?? I have been told by manny friends of mine that at the games recently attended, in the team store all stuff was clearance. Hats and jerseys......just saying.

Could it be the Braves?? I have been told by manny friends of mine that at the games recently attended, in the team store all stuff was clearance. Hats and jerseys......just saying.

If the Braves does changed uniforms and logo they're probably going to do it after next season since they're moving to a new stadium

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Is the name change confirmed? Or is it just speculation?

It's been confirmed, allegedly.

Not yet - right now all we have are unnamed sources telling Paul Lukas. He's pretty plugged in, so there's most likely something to it, but it hasn't been confirmed by anyone on the record.

I loved the "Anaheim Angels" name ... it feels less commercial and less money driven than "Los Angeles Angels."

That's pretty ironic, considering that the city of Anaheim paid the team to use it.

Which is understandable in wanting to build a brand and what not, but not worth it in the end. Last time I checked the Anaheim Angels won the 2002 World Series.

That's a darling non sequitur you've got there.

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I loved the "Anaheim Angels" name ... it feels less commercial and less money driven than "Los Angeles Angels."

That's pretty ironic, considering that the city suburb of Anaheim paid the team to use it.

No. Not even. As much as they wanna push it like that, Anaheim is NOT a suburb of LA (God this is an old and tired debate).

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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Yes, it is. A large suburb, perhaps, well-developed with its own identity, perhaps, but you're unquestionably within the circle of the large city next to you.

http://i.word.com/idictionary/suburb

sub·urb

\ˈsə-ˌbərb\

noun

: a town or other area where people live in houses near a larger city

Full Definition

1a :an outlying part of a city or town

b :a smaller community adjacent to or within commuting distance of a city

c plural :the residential area on the outskirts of a city or large town

2 plural :the near vicinity :environs

Thing about megaplexes is that their suburbs can be larger than many other cities across the nation, but still be suburbs by virtue of proximity to the larger anchor city.

I know people in Orange County don't like to acknowledge it, but facts are what they are.

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Yes, it is. A large suburb, perhaps, well-developed with its own identity, perhaps, but you're unquestionably within the circle of the large city next to you.

http://i.word.com/idictionary/suburb

sub·urb

\ˈsə-ˌbərb\

noun

: a town or other area where people live in houses near a larger city

Full Definition

1a :an outlying part of a city or town

b :a smaller community adjacent to or within commuting distance of a city

c plural :the residential area on the outskirts of a city or large town

2 plural :the near vicinity :environs

Thing about megaplexes is that their suburbs can be larger than many other cities across the nation, but still be suburbs by virtue of proximity to the larger anchor city.

I know people in Orange County don't like to acknowledge it, but facts are what they are.

So is Minneapolis a suburb of St. Paul and vice versa?

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Twin Cities don't neatly fit these categories, but there are only a couple areas that really qualify. In that case, St. Paul's influence is somewhat outsized, being the seat of state power. Then you have the Bay Area, where the "central" city is impossibly small, and at least two other cities have grown up to the point where they may have a claim to co-equal status.

But you're not seriously suggesting that Anaheim is in any way the economic, cultural or political equal of Los Angeles, are you?

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I think it's understood Anaheim is part of the Greater LA media market, which is obviously what the Angels are going for. As are the Foxboro Patriots, East Rutherford Giants and the Auburn Hills Pistons.

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Twin Cities don't neatly fit these categories, but there are only a couple that really qualify. In that case, St. Paul's influence is somewhat outsized, being the seat of state power. Then you have the Bay Area, where the "central" city is impossibly small, and at least two other cities have grown up to the point where they may claim equal status.

But you're not seriously suggesting that Anaheim is in any way the economic, cultural or political equal of Los Angeles, are you?

To be honest, im not qualified at all to speak about Anaheim and LA. Never been there or know much about at all. Id imagine though it would be similar to a Buffalo/ Niagara Falls situation, no?

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Sigh, here's a list of people who steadfastly believe that Anaheim is a "suburb" of LA.

1.) East coasters who don't really understand west coast cities

2.) People who have never actually been there

3.) Gothamite

You might as well call Reno is a "suburb" of the Bay Area, then.

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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I loved the "Anaheim Angels" name ... it feels less commercial and less money driven than "Los Angeles Angels."

That's pretty ironic, considering that the city suburb of Anaheim paid the team to use it.

No. Not even. As much as they wanna push it like that, Anaheim is NOT a suburb of LA (God this is an old and tired debate).

Yes, it is. A large suburb, perhaps, well-developed with its own identity, perhaps, but you're unquestionably within the circle of the large city next to you.

http://i.word.com/idictionary/suburb

sub·urb

\ˈsə-ˌbərb\

noun

: a town or other area where people live in houses near a larger city

Full Definition

1a :an outlying part of a city or town

b :a smaller community adjacent to or within commuting distance of a city

c plural :the residential area on the outskirts of a city or large town

2 plural :the near vicinity :environs

Thing about megaplexes is that their suburbs can be larger than many other cities across the nation, but still be suburbs by virtue of proximity to the larger anchor city.

I know people in Orange County don't like to acknowledge it, but facts are what they are.

Gothamite is correct.

Also, people get confused by the fact that "suburban" as an adjective stands in contrast to "urban". Nevertheless, one city can be a suburb of another. For instance, the small cities of northern New Jersey such as Hoboken, Jersey City, and Newark, while all gloriously urban (rather than suburban) in character, are nevertheless suburbs of New York City.

The fact that Anaheim is its own city does not prevent it from being a suburb of a larger city, nor does the fact that it's very different from L.A. And the fact that it's in another county is utterly irrelevant. Practically every city has suburbs in other counties; some, as noted above, have them in other states.

The real test is the TV market. The networks have no Anaheim stations; the local stations for Anaheim are the L.A. stations KCBS, KNBC, KABC, KTLA, etc. And even if a station were licenced to Anaheim, it still would serve the entire L.A. area, the way the New York area is served both by stations licenced to New York City proper and also by WWOR (licenced to Secaucus, NJ), WNET (licenced to Newark), and WLIW (licenced to Garden City, Long Island).

The point of all this is that "Los Angeles Angels" is an entirely appropriate name for a team in Anaheim. And, of course, the Angels aren't the first L.A. team to play in Anaheim: the L.A. Rams played in Anaheim for the last 15 years before their move away; and the L.A. Kiss have played there the past two seasons.

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Well then in that case you might as well call Fresno a "suburb" of the Bay Area, too!

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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...no one says the "of Anaheim" part in everyday parlance, so this legal change won't really make that much of a difference to the general public.

This is true. A recent Final Jeopardy answer, in the category "Sports Teams", was: "When translated, the full name of this Major League Baseball team gets you a double reduncancy." The correct question was "What is the Los Angeles Angels?" Note that "Los Angeles Angels" was considered the full name.

P.S. -- None of the contestants got it. Morons.

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I used them because they're cities that have strong influence from the Bay Area (TV markets, since that's apparently the judge of how this works) but are most certainly NOT suburbs of the Bay Area. That's kinda how, at least I feel, how Anaheim is.

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I've been to Anaheim. It's a suburb. I've also been to Los Angeles, and I'm not convinced Los Angeles isn't a suburb of itself.

"Los Angeles Angels" is the best possible name for the team, but it makes more sense for them to stay in Orange County and accommodate their fanbase, which may well be all over southern California but at this point would certainly have to be concentrated in Orange County. I just smile at "the The Angels Angels."

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