Jer15 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 15 hours ago, VancouverFan69 said: The 'T' in Toronto FC's crest appears navy blue to me. It's not. Never has been. http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/0gfaomjubvw58whdep6w/Toronto_FC/2007/Primary_Logo 39 minutes ago, gosioux76 said: I think it's another iteration on the argument against Euro-fied naming conventions in soccer. He'd rather they be Toronto Metros than Toronto FC, but he made the point by comparing its name to Liverpool FC. I think that's referring to the fact that their "nickname" being "The Reds" just like Liverpool. They also hosted a mid-season friendly a few seasons ago against Liverpool and sold it as "the reds vs the reds" so I guess I can see that compairison. That said, I think it's fair to say the nickname "TFC" is much more commonplace than "the reds". GTA United(USA) 2015 + 2016 USA Champions/Toronto Maroons (ULL)2014, 2015 + 2022 Gait Cup Champions/Toronto Northmen (TNFF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverFan69 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 24 minutes ago, mr.negative15 said: I think that's referring to the fact that their "nickname" being "The Reds" just like Liverpool. They also hosted a mid-season friendly a few seasons ago against Liverpool and sold it as "the reds vs the reds" so I guess I can see that compairison. That said, I think it's fair to say the nickname "TFC" is much more commonplace than "the reds". That's correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 15 hours ago, VancouverFan69 said: The Metro-Croatia won Soccer Bowl '76 and the Blizzard were Soccer Bowl finalists in '83 and '84. The Blizzard also had well known players like Canadian Nationals like Bruce Wilson and Sam Lenarduzzi and South African legend Jomo Sono. Generic Euro brands belong in Europe. And that all amounted to what, exactly? Vancouver's MLS team didn't resurrect the Whitecaps name. It had been used for various pro soccer teams in Vancouver for years. The name had a long, almost continuous, history that made it a no-brainer for the MLS franchise to use. The Metros/Metro-Croatia/Blizzard identities died with the team. As for the names themselves... Metro-Croatia was always stupid. Appealing to one immigrant community in a city as large and diverse as Toronto is a bad move marketing-wise. I know I'll jump ship if they ever revert to the Metro-Croatia name. "Metros" wasn't going to fly. Yeah, the MetroStars had become the Red Bulls, but I still consider the "Metro" name to belong to that franchise. At least as far as MLS goes. Blizzard could have worked had they adopted it back in 2007, but they didn't. Probably for the reason I stated above. It hadn't been used for so long, and the "Toronto Blizzard" brand just didn't mean anything anymore. As for your "Euro names" argument? TFC has had that name for going on ten years now. Twice as long as the Blizzard were known by that name. It's "Toronto Football Club" that has currency among fans. Not "Toronto Blizzard." PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGamecocks29 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 On March 1, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Gothamite said: I updated my MLS Next graphic to reflect the LAFC shield logo and the Red Bulls' new version. Everything with Atlanta United FC is just terrible.… PHI ALPHA! SIGMA ALPHA EPSILON. CAROLINA GAMECOCKS. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS. ST. LOUIS BLUES. ORLANDO CITY SC. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverFan69 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 3 hours ago, Ice_Cap said: And that all amounted to what, exactly? Vancouver's MLS team didn't resurrect the Whitecaps name. It had been used for various pro soccer teams in Vancouver for years. The name had a long, almost continuous, history that made it a no-brainer for the MLS franchise to use. The Metros/Metro-Croatia/Blizzard identities died with the team. As for the names themselves... Metro-Croatia was always stupid. Appealing to one immigrant community in a city as large and diverse as Toronto is a bad move marketing-wise. I know I'll jump ship if they ever revert to the Metro-Croatia name. "Metros" wasn't going to fly. Yeah, the MetroStars had become the Red Bulls, but I still consider the "Metro" name to belong to that franchise. At least as far as MLS goes. Blizzard could have worked had they adopted it back in 2007, but they didn't. Probably for the reason I stated above. It hadn't been used for so long, and the "Toronto Blizzard" brand just didn't mean anything anymore. As for your "Euro names" argument? TFC has had that name for going on ten years now. Twice as long as the Blizzard were known by that name. It's "Toronto Football Club" that has currency among fans. Not "Toronto Blizzard." I'm with you on the Metro-Croatia. I would much prefer "Metros". I believe the Blizzard name can work in MLS. We'll just have to agree to disagree on TFC. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 3 hours ago, GoGamecocks29 said: Everything with Atlanta United FC is just terrible.… Yeah, it's all unbearably drab. How can black, red and gold be so lifeless? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aawagner011 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 28 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Yeah, it's all unbearably drab. How can black, red and gold be so lifeless? Full disclosure, I am clearly biased (see avatar), but I think it'll be a classy look when we go with the stripes. And I think the club will play up the gold. It looks remarkable when used as a metallic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nas1787 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 11 hours ago, Nyk33 said: I'm pretty sure the new NASL has the Toronto Blizzard trademark. According to my quick trademark search, the Blizzard name is currently held by Joe Parolini, former GM of the Blizzard when they were in the CSL. No indication that he is affiliated with the new NASL. http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/vwTrdmrk.do?lang=eng&status=&fileNumber=1604928&extension=0&startingDocumentIndexOnPage=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fillmont Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Authentic version, some small changes from the previous leak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 1 hour ago, aawagner011 said: Full disclosure, I am clearly biased (see avatar), but I think it'll be a classy look when we go with the stripes. And I think the club will play up the gold. It looks remarkable when used as a metallic. Anyone else get a weird Avengers vibe from this particular depiction of the logo? On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Yeah, looks like the closing credits. The problem is that it will only occasionally be "used as a metallic". For the majority of applications, it's a dark brown paired with dark red and black. No life there at all, just drab layered on drab. It's the same problem I have with my Brewers' current uniforms. Metallic gold against navy looks outstanding in the sunlight. Sublime. But in every application other than a ballcap in the bright afternoon sun of a July day, they're stuck with bland navy and khaki-brown. And no amount of hometown homerism can make that better. Your avatar is fantastic, with the gold framing white. I'm not in favor of shoehorning white where it isn't needed (see "New York Yankees, road uniforms of"), but this is one time where a little white would have saved it. The logo is adequate, but dragged down by an awful color scheme. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 12 hours ago, nas1787 said: According to my quick trademark search, the Blizzard name is currently held by Joe Parolini, former GM of the Blizzard when they were in the CSL. No indication that he is affiliated with the new NASL. http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/vwTrdmrk.do?lang=eng&status=&fileNumber=1604928&extension=0&startingDocumentIndexOnPage=1 Guess I was wrong on that one. 11 hours ago, Bucfan56 said: Anyone else get a weird Avengers vibe from this particular depiction of the logo? I've already nicknamed them the Avengers in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 That's a lot to live up to. Odds are they start off like a regular expansion team, which is less Earth's Mightiest Heroes and more... these guys. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, Gothamite said: That's a lot to live up to. Odds are they start off like a regular expansion team, which is less Earth's Mightiest Heroes and more... these guys. TBF, the color scheme would brighten up a bit if they went that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTernup Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 6 hours ago, Gothamite said: Yeah, looks like the closing credits. The problem is that it will only occasionally be "used as a metallic". For the majority of applications, it's a dark brown paired with dark red and black. No life there at all, just drab layered on drab. It's the same problem I have with my Brewers' current uniforms. Metallic gold against navy looks outstanding in the sunlight. Sublime. But in every application other than a ballcap in the bright afternoon sun of a July day, they're stuck with bland navy and khaki-brown. And no amount of hometown homerism can make that better. Your avatar is fantastic, with the gold framing white. I'm not in favor of shoehorning white where it isn't needed (see "New York Yankees, road uniforms of"), but this is one time where a little white would have saved it. The logo is adequate, but dragged down by an awful color scheme. I agree wholeheartedly, this Atlanta scheme is 90's Nuggets, Brewers, Pelicans depressing. It sucks the life out of a team and just makes the whole thing lifeless feeling regardless of the actual quality on the field. That sounds incredibly dramatic but color is way too big a part of our emotional response. I can't think of any drab on drab teams that are considered exciting, and they all require change within a decade. Denver Nuggets Kansas City Chiefs Tampa Bay Rays Colorado Buffaloes Purdue Boilermakers Florida Gators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I tend to agree that gold isn't a great thing in uniforms BUT I did like how AC did it on the red/black kits. NOT the full on gold jersey. Design Hovie Studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 See, that's a great treatment of the color scheme. But the shades of red and gold that Atlanta has been using are significantly darker. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittSmith_95 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Gothamite said: See, that's a great treatment of the color scheme. But the shades of red and gold that Atlanta has been using are significantly darker. It's and odd colour scheme that needs the right shades for it to work. I instantly think of the old A.I. 6ers era with red, gold and black..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, KittSmith_95 said: It's and odd colour scheme that needs the right shades for it to work. I instantly think of the old A.I. 6ers era with red, gold and black..... Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarred Revolver Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 20 hours ago, fillmont said: Authentic version, some small changes from the previous leak. I don't get how Dallas is allowed to have LH on the sleeve and not MLS logo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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