Gothamite Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 6 hours ago, dfwabel said: The Ponzi Scheme always needs more "juice". Um, no. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wences Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 6 hours ago, Bucfan56 said: Well, this is quite exciting. It looks like we may just be on track for a move up to MLS even quicker than any of us expected... MLS Commissioner Don Garber to visit Sacramento on Apr. 14 Sacramento showed commitment with the game and, of course, Sacramento deserves an MLS team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 8 hours ago, Bucfan56 said: Yes, you certainly did. I've gotta keep my mouth shut a bit on certain details, because I'm not exactly privy to them yet (But I still have impeccable hearing ), but let's just say that the NASL making a move on a certain Bay Area city may have changed some timeframes and shifted some priorities a bit. That's the suspicion, anyway... I didn't think MLS cared so much about what the NASL does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Nyk33 said: I didn't think MLS cared so much about what the NASL does. It's basically a case of them wanting to set up a preemptive strike in order to squash any potential future hassles in terms of future competition. We were going to get moved up eventually anyway, so they might as well do it now just to be safe. The tech money some of the new investors have concerns Garber a bit. They'd rather establish themselves quickly in potential NASL cities rather than give them the opportunity to cut into even a portion of their market share. And the REALLY don't want the NASL to get a foothold in both the Bay Area AND the Sacramento market. Due to our insane numbers compared to the rest of the USL, we can kinda use that as some leverage. If the MLS really wants to string is along in favor of a nearly dead Miami project, we could easily jump to the NASL. We'd still be the top team in terms of attendance in the NASL, and now we have a geographically convenient "rival" just down the road, making a move like that make even more sense. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 I don't believe that at all. You can't use the NASL as leverage against MLS any more than you can negotiate down the price of a Bentley by threatening to walk down the street to a Subaru dealership. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 That's not really a good comparison IMO. It's more of a convenience thing when it comes to territory, if anything. We're only a few steps away from making the move as it is, so why not expedite the process to prevent any potential loss of market share? Or in the very least, to prevent any more potential hurdles for both the league and the city? The MLS doesn't want to take too many risks with a market like ours because it's considered one of the next in line, and another league (fledgling as it may be) is trying to build up its territory in an area that is considered currently underserved by the MLS. It's a mostly minor change, but a forward thinking one. It's simply a bit of extra motivation on top of what we already have. These aren't just just internet rumors on going off of, Goth... On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kj Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I'm intrigued to see how the SF Deltas thing will play out. (Also, quit saying "the MLS". ) Buy some t-shirts and stuff at KJ Shop! KJ Branded | Behance portfolio POTD 2013-08-22 On 7/14/2012 at 2:20 AM, tajmccall said: When it comes to style, ya'll really should listen to Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 3 hours ago, Bucfan56 said: The MLS doesn't want to take too many risks with a market like ours because it's considered one of the next in line, and another league (fledgling as it may be) is trying to build up its territory in an area that is considered currently underserved by the MLS. It's a mostly minor change, but a forward thinking one. It's simply a bit of extra motivation on top of what we already have. But that's nonsense. MLS has nothing to fear from the NASL. Say MLS isn't ready to extend a spot, and Sacramento joins the NASL. Does anybody really think that when MLS next has an open spot, the Republic would turn it down because they're in the NASL? The NASL is not a serious competitor for MLS. Not for teams, and not for territories. If the NASL wants to develop the market, and keep it warm, MLS will be happy to benefit from their work. But that work won't keep MLS out. I don't doubt that you'll be offered an expansion spot. But that won't a thing at all to do with the NASL in the meantime. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Well, this is what I'm hearing directly from our front office, so I trust that it at least holds some weight. Unless they're purposely planting false information, which would seem odd to me because there's no reason for that, I'm going to assume there's a method to the madness. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 They could be looking at joining the NASL simply to better their situation while waiting to join MLS. That doesn't have to mean they think it's actually leverage to make that happen. But if leverage is actually what they're saying, I can think of two reasons why they'd put that out. 1. They're complete morons, and complete morons are rare ; or 2. They want to show the fans and the city that they're doing something. An empty gesture can still be a valuable one. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wences Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Well, if they can't join MLS by the moment, they could join NASL. But, soon or later, Sacramento Republic will be an MLS team for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 I can absolutely see them wanting to join the NASL as a stepping stone to MLS, in terms of playing a higher caliber of opponent. That makes sense on so many levels - avoiding MLS B teams and playing teams with fan bases and stadiums closer in level to their own. Truth be told, Sacramento doesn't belong in the USL; they're not in any way a third-division club. I just think it's absurd that joining the NASL could be seen as leverage to use against MLS. There's no threat there. If anything, MLS would be pleased with the move. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 9 hours ago, Gothamite said: They could be looking at joining the NASL simply to better their situation while waiting to join MLS. That doesn't have to mean they think it's actually leverage to make that happen. But if leverage is actually what they're saying, I can think of two reasons why they'd put that out. 1. They're complete morons, and complete morons are rare ; or 2. They want to show the fans and the city that they're doing something. An empty gesture can still be a valuable one. Perhaps. And again, I'm not in the closed door meetings with these guys or anything, but the walls are thin and our office is pretty small. They're also pretty transparent with the staff about upcoming plans, which is pretty nice. I know it's not #1. The investors we have are smart, and have shown that. They're either naturally forward thinking guys, or have learned their lesson the hard way before on local sports projects (See the Sacramento Mountain Lions fiasco). Anyway, we've got our first regular season match tonight vs Arizona! I can't wait to see that crowd! On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 I think it might be helpful if you can tell us exactly what you heard. That they're looking at the NASL, or that they think speaking with the NASL will force the hand of MLS? On its face, the latter makes no sense. MLS can always come back to them after a year or two in the NASL and scoop them up then. And the Republic will gladly jump. This can't exactly create any urgency because it wouldn't change anything; the process for an NASL team joining MLS is exactly the same as a USL team joining MLS, and being in the NASL doesn't make the Republic any less interested in joining MLS. Leverage only works if MLS wants to keep the Republic from joining the NASL, but why would they? What does MLS have to lose? And sorry, #1 was a joke. A quote from the criminally underrated "Ruthless People". I know they're not actually complete morons. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 This is fun: http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/04/06/san-jose-clash-vs-dc-united-april-6-1996 Wednesday night, MLSsoccer.com will be livestreaming a re-broadcast of the first-ever MLS match. Clash! United! Backwards-counting clock! Be there! By the way, I definitely wasn't watching soccer or MLS in 1996. How many people told them changing the rules was stupid? And how much did they not listen? 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Just now, DG_Now said: This is fun: http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/04/06/san-jose-clash-vs-dc-united-april-6-1996 Wednesday night, MLSsoccer.com will be livestreaming a re-broadcast of the first-ever MLS match. Clash! United! Backwards-counting clock! Be there! By the way, I definitely wasn't watching soccer or MLS in 1996. How many people told them changing the rules was stupid? And how much did they not listen? People were concerned at the time that Americans wouldn't watch if you didn't Americanize the game a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 Seemed like a good idea at the time, I guess. But they learned pretty early that you didn't need to "Americanize" the game. We liked it the way it was. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 10 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Seemed like a good idea at the time, I guess. But they learned pretty early that you didn't need to "Americanize" the game. We liked it the way it was. Thank our lucky stars for that one. Speaking of lucky stars I can't believe Rayo OKC actually had a sellout while Oklahoma was playing the Final Four. I know the stadium they are playing in isn't very big (attendance was only over 6,000) but that's one more sellout than I would have predicted that team to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 Should be interesting to see what the other Oklahoma City team does. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 Speaking of attendance, I believe tonight will be the first Cosmos season opener without Pele making an appearance. In fact, as far as I can tell they're not scheduled to have any legends there (last season it was Pele and Beckenbauer, although Franz bowed out before the game, to the consternation of a Bayern supporters group I know who went just to see him). Their season openers usually sell out, meaning something like 6,000 more than their other games and giving the average attendance a boost. They're defending a championship, so I'd expect a big crowd, but will it be a sellout? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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