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Arena might be the best candidate, but I just prefer a new face at the helm.  I was reading up on a few options and really like Gregg Berhalter (Columbus Crew), Oscar Pareja (Dallas, if he wants to leave them), or Peter Vermes (Sporting KC)

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1 hour ago, Nyk33 said:

 

43 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

That was a profoundly stupid thing to say, but it was also a couple years ago.  Let's see if he still feels that way.

 

30 minutes ago, AstroBull21 said:

Arena might be the best candidate, but I just prefer a new face at the helm.  I was reading up on a few options and really like Gregg Berhalter (Columbus Crew), Oscar Pareja (Dallas, if he wants to leave them), or Peter Vermes (Sporting KC)

 

Hiring Bruce Arena again, is basically giving the team a fairly respected "adjunct professor" or "substitute teacher". Hiring him also illustrates to the public that US Soccer is somewhat rudderless since your national coach is from the long standing old system in which university scholarships were the main goal for a youth player. 

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Can't help like feeling like USSF is going backwards if they hire Arena. Out of the MLS coaches, vermes would be the superior option IMO. But if I was USSF, I'd go all out to try and get Marcelo Bielsa. Would be a risky bet, and after Klinsmann I think they want someone less outspoken, but if it pans out it could very well change history for the USMNT. 

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Arena's MLS success seems to have stemmed from the strategy of "have the best players." That works if you're in a club league with a limited talent pool. I don't see that working when you're the US.

 

I don't know who's in the pipeline and who they could reasonably get. Klinsmann seemed like the right level of guy. Would someone like Jose Murinho or Pep come over to the US? I don't know if they'd have the same development interest Jurgen had, but the tactics would be better.

 

USMNT has talent. That much is clear. But the lineup situation has been a mess over the past three years and they needed to have done better against Aegentina and Costa Rica, to say nothing of the 2015 Gold Cup.

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5 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

USMNT has talent. That much is clear. But the lineup situation has been a mess over the past three years and they needed to have done better against Aegentina and Costa Rica, to say nothing of the 2015 Gold Cup.

 

Argentina is not exactly a walk in the park. They are an elite team and the USMNT isn't.

 

I do agree with you about all the others though and I will even add the last game against Mexico in Columbus.

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1 hour ago, DG_Now said:

That works if you're in a club league with a limited talent pool and a front office that ensures they go to your team.

FTFY.

 

Arena would definitely be a step backwards and I'm definitely disappointed that the option to remain on solely as technical director wasn't extended to Klinsmann. I feel like that would have been the best option going forward if both parties had agreed to it. I don't want the second coming of Bruce Arena. I fail to see what he offers that is anything different from what has come before. The US needs to try looking outside the box again.

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2 minutes ago, CRichardson said:

FTFY.

 

Arena would definitely be a step backwards and I'm definitely disappointed that the option to remain on solely as technical director wasn't extended to Klinsmann. I feel like that would have been the best option going forward if both parties had agreed to it. I don't want the second coming of Bruce Arena. I fail to see what he offers that is anything different from what has come before. The US needs to try looking outside the box again.

 

I think the USSF was also disappointed by the fact that the US didn't qualify for two straight Olympics. That, plus the things people here already mentioned, probably made them want to end the whole Klinsmann experiment all together.

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Speaking of the Olympics, it really annoys me to no end that Jill Ellis still has a job. There is no justification whatsoever for the USWNT's failure at the Olympics. She should have been :censored:canned for that immediately. The World Cup win basically fell into her lap because of circumstances out of her control.

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14 minutes ago, CRichardson said:

Speaking of the Olympics, it really annoys me to no end that Jill Ellis still has a job. There is no justification whatsoever for the USWNT's failure at the Olympics. She should have been :censored:canned for that immediately. The World Cup win basically fell into her lap because of circumstances out of her control.

They have their own problems right now over money. On 60 Minutes last night, the players said they might strike next year.

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1 hour ago, anythinglogos said:

Can't help like feeling like USSF is going backwards if they hire Arena. Out of the MLS coaches, vermes would be the superior option IMO. But if I was USSF, I'd go all out to try and get Marcelo Bielsa. Would be a risky bet, and after Klinsmann I think they want someone less outspoken, but if it pans out it could very well change history for the USMNT. 

I'd love the idea of trying to go after Bielsa but I'm not sure how possible it is.  Arena does seem like a bit of a step backwards but at least he seems decent tactically and as a motivator.  Klinsmann failed in both of those regards.

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55 minutes ago, CRichardson said:

FTFY.

 

Arena would definitely be a step backwards and I'm definitely disappointed that the option to remain on solely as technical director wasn't extended to Klinsmann. I feel like that would have been the best option going forward if both parties had agreed to it. I don't want the second coming of Bruce Arena. I fail to see what he offers that is anything different from what has come before. The US needs to try looking outside the box again.

Let's not forget that while Arena doesn't look like it, he is 65.

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How hard is the US really trying, though? In the youth development portion, I mean, yeah probably. But it seems to drop off of a cliff after youth soccer. They seem to be doing a decent job of "building the game", but the fan interest is still alarmingly sparse considering our potential resources. 

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54 minutes ago, Mockba said:

Actually, youth development is the part that's lacking the most.

 

Yeah when it comes to young kids it seems to be thriving, but once you get into the "club team" ages, it begins to dwindle, and once you hit high school it falls so flat that, in turn, college soccer is kind of non existent in comparison to other major American sports. It's still really surprising to me that there are major universities (especially out west) that don't even field "varsity" level teams. How is that possible? I wonder what causes such a massive drop off. 

 

I totally get the argument that there isn't enough space in the sports world considering how many sports we have, but basketball and even hockey took a long time to gain a foot hold in the states and have basically exploded (basketball in particular. Hockey has the benefit of being the national sport of our closest neighbors). I wonder why soccer (which seems like a MUCH cheaper option than football and even baseball) never caught on. 

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4 hours ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

Yeah when it comes to young kids it seems to be thriving, but once you get into the "club team" ages, it begins to dwindle, and once you hit high school it falls so flat that, in turn, college soccer is kind of non existent in comparison to other major American sports. It's still really surprising to me that there are major universities (especially out west) that don't even field "varsity" level teams. How is that possible? I wonder what causes such a massive drop off. 

 

I totally get the argument that there isn't enough space in the sports world considering how many sports we have, but basketball and even hockey took a long time to gain a foot hold in the states and have basically exploded (basketball in particular. Hockey has the benefit of being the national sport of our closest neighbors). I wonder why soccer (which seems like a MUCH cheaper option than football and even baseball) never caught on. 

While neither the SEC nor Big XII offer men's soccer as a sport as well, NCAA soccer with its four month schedule and rules which vary from the Laws of the Game, is much more part of the problem than it is part of the solution.

 

Sure, Title IX is/was the basis for programs not adding soccer, but while 12 of the 25 players on the 2014 WC team played college soccer, we still should rely on a team with those who played at an inferior level from ages 15-18 and 18-22.

 

http://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2016/4/7/11381790/college-soccer-ncaa-american-development

 

 

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