Gothamite Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 It looks pretty cool, and the view of the harbor will be amazing from inside, but that arrangement looks like it'll kill atmosphere. You have what looks like almost a third of the stadium without any seats. Some may be taken up with standing patios, but that's not really a replacement. I know they feel hemmed in by Bayshore Drive on the East, but couldn't they move the road a couple hundred feet and cut into the marina basin a bit? That would let them enclose one side, at least. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, Gothamite said: It looks pretty cool, and the view of the harbor will be amazing from inside, but that arrangement looks like it'll kill atmosphere. You have what looks like almost a third of the stadium without any seats. Some may be taken up with standing patios, but that's not really a replacement. I know they feel hemmed in by Bayshore Drive on the East, but couldn't they move the road a couple hundred feet and cut into the marina basin a bit? That would let them enclose one side, at least. Fair point, but that would probably include some environmental approval or something. I do know the Rays wanted to bubble out Bayshore when they had the stadium proposal back in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kj Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 It's not like they couldn't do that in a future expansion if they felt the need. You're talking about a pretty expensive road move there. Buy some t-shirts and stuff at KJ Shop! KJ Branded | Behance portfolio POTD 2013-08-22 On 7/14/2012 at 2:20 AM, tajmccall said: When it comes to style, ya'll really should listen to Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Gothamite said: It looks pretty cool, and the view of the harbor will be amazing from inside, but that arrangement looks like it'll kill atmosphere. You have what looks like almost a third of the stadium without any seats. Some may be taken up with standing patios, but that's not really a replacement. Just wait for the games which are not sold out. It'll sound like a practice facility. @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 2 hours ago, AstroBull21 said: Fair point, but that would probably include some environmental approval or something. I do know the Rays wanted to bubble out Bayshore when they had the stadium proposal back in 2008. Oh, I'm sure it would. And as others have noted, it would also get expensive. But if they're ready to drop $200M on an expansion fee, then I'd expect them to look at building out the road. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 16 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Oh, I'm sure it would. And as others have noted, it would also get expensive. But if they're ready to drop $200M on an expansion fee, then I'd expect them to look at building out the road. I would worry less about a road and more about a sea wall. Al Lang is prone to flooding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I just realized that you could call this year's MLS Cup the Copa del Cafe (Starbucks vs. Tim Hortons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Building that amount of infrastructure -- and locking yourself into a limited capacity -- next to water seems like a really dumb idea. The render shows a good job of maximizing the space, but maybe some spaces shouldn't be maximized. Maybe that baseball field should remain what it is and the Rowdies find a different, more suitable location. It's Florida. Couldn't they go halfsies with one of the high school football powerhouses? Or build a shared use facility like they do in Texas (Dallas? Houston?). I'm all for neat looking privately-built stadiums, but sometimes the compromises are too much. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 31 minutes ago, DG_Now said: Building that amount of infrastructure -- and locking yourself into a limited capacity -- next to water seems like a really dumb idea. The render shows a good job of maximizing the space, but maybe some spaces shouldn't be maximized. Maybe that baseball field should remain what it is and the Rowdies find a different, more suitable location. It's Florida. Couldn't they go halfsies with one of the high school football powerhouses? Or build a shared use facility like they do in Texas (Dallas? Houston?). I'm all for neat looking privately-built stadiums, but sometimes the compromises are too much. Only if you find the right private school. Florida has only county run school districts, not independent, community based ones. Those suburban, mega HS stadiums in Texas are done by a single independent school district. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Gio Savarese is helping former Cosmos players find teams even though he's still under contract with the Cosmos. I hope that he has a good future as a manager after he's done with the Cosmos. The man has a heart of gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 He should have a good career ahead of him. Really sickening that the Cosmos threw roadblocks that helped keep him from the Minnesota United job, even though they knew the club might go under, and even though they had already stopped paying him. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 9 hours ago, Gothamite said: He should have a good career ahead of him. Really sickening that the Cosmos threw roadblocks that helped keep him from the Minnesota United job, even though they knew the club might go under, and even though they had already stopped paying him. The Cosmos have not acted in good faith towards anyone in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Report: US national team GK Brad Guzan to join Atlanta United in 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 No real snow accumulation due here until mid Sunday, though MLS have orange soccer balls on hand in case. Snow or shine, the match is on. @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 7 hours ago, Nyk33 said: Report: US national team GK Brad Guzan to join Atlanta United in 2017 Welps, ATL may get a rapidly declining 32 year old GK on a first year squad who will be looked at as a team leader. No. Jay Sherman on this possible move: I tried to watch both games in of the NCAA College Cup from Houston on DVR today but those kids suck*. The SuperDraft sells the public on these mediocre kids. *-I understand the NCAA season and 20 hour practice rules prevent skill mastery, but both games were ugly and NCAA rules are worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 So the pyramid scheme won't detail the future until next week for the dozen cities who look to build a SSC for their next four teams. http://www.espnfc.com/major-league-soccer/19/blog/post/3015149/don-garber-qa-mls-commissioner-talks-expansion-pro-rel-and-more I'm talking about trouble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 8 hours ago, dfwabel said: the pyramid scheme I can't decide if this is a stupid criticism or a brilliant pun. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Speaking of the NASL crisis the majority of Cosmos employees have been laid off. Also kudos to Garber for putting the kibosh on the third NYC team stuff. As much I'm not a fan of NYCFC and the Red Bulls its extremely unfair to other cities that don't have MLS teams and are making a great case to get one (Sacramento, Cincy, etc) for the league to consider putting a team in a place that already has two teams over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 The Garber interview dfwabel links above is a good read. Obviously, MLS has a long way to go, but it's at least being steered effectively with respect to its position in the American sports market. That's more than you can say for the NHL. Though there's no getting around a $500 million NHL expansion fee is > than a $100 million MLS one; perhaps because so many MLS teams also require a significant stadium investment. Speaking of, what's keeping the Dolphins and MLS Miami from sharing Hard Rock? 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 hours ago, DG_Now said: The Garber interview dfwabel links above is a good read. Obviously, MLS has a long way to go, but it's at least being steered effectively with respect to its position in the American sports market. That's more than you can say for the NHL. Though there's no getting around a $500 million NHL expansion fee is > than a $100 million MLS one; perhaps because so many MLS teams also require a significant stadium investment. Speaking of, what's keeping the Dolphins and MLS Miami from sharing Hard Rock? People who want the team playing downtown, and I haven't heard if the Dolphins are cool with sharing space with the Hurricanes and the MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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