hockey week Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 4 hours ago, dont care said: This could just be me that thinks this. But I highly doubt ads will keep new people from watching games. If anything it might keep them around thinking that is just the way it is. They probably have an idea that ads are on the boards already, and it isn't like they aren't already bombarded with ads on a daily basis (over 2000 ads per day for the average person). It will annoy us nerds for awhile but like anything we will eventually accept it. I don't mean they won't watch because of ads, I mean they won't be able to watch because of ads. I never put much stock into this until I roomed with a guy from Cleveland who had never watched hockey before - he really had a hard time following the puck. Now this was 2007 and it was standard def, but he really had a hard time until he learned the flow of the game and where to look. I grew up watching the game, I never had that problem, but outsiders really do have difficulties. That's why I lament distractions like ads on the boards moving around, and I hope we never see European ice with ads all over the playing surface, because you'll never get a new person to follow the puck again. I'll respect any opinion that you can defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panthers_2012 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 hour ago, hockey week said: I don't mean they won't watch because of ads, I mean they won't be able to watch because of ads. I never put much stock into this until I roomed with a guy from Cleveland who had never watched hockey before - he really had a hard time following the puck. Now this was 2007 and it was standard def, but he really had a hard time until he learned the flow of the game and where to look. I grew up watching the game, I never had that problem, but outsiders really do have difficulties. That's why I lament distractions like ads on the boards moving around, and I hope we never see European ice with ads all over the playing surface, because you'll never get a new person to follow the puck again. AGREED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnPheitseog Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 2 hours ago, hockey week said: I don't mean they won't watch because of ads, I mean they won't be able to watch because of ads. I never put much stock into this until I roomed with a guy from Cleveland who had never watched hockey before - he really had a hard time following the puck. Now this was 2007 and it was standard def, but he really had a hard time until he learned the flow of the game and where to look. I grew up watching the game, I never had that problem, but outsiders really do have difficulties. That's why I lament distractions like ads on the boards moving around, and I hope we never see European ice with ads all over the playing surface, because you'll never get a new person to follow the puck again. This is, honestly, why I'm in favour of adding jersey ads, on the condition that the on ice ads are removed. I'd rather have a clean playing surface than an ad free jersey Formerly known as DiePerske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nash61 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I looked at the Leafs' new jerseys and immediately thought "Tampa" That's not a good thing. Panthers jerseys are gorgeous, and it's the only time I will advocate for white/gold right next to each other. The limited contrast on the chest stripe helps set them apart from Montreal. Other than the stupidity of the army patches and shoulder numbers, it gets a resounding YES from me. On September 20, 2012 at 0:50 AM, 'CS85 said: It's like watching the hellish undead creakily shuffling their way out of the flames of a liposuction clinic dumpster fire. On February 19, 2012 at 9:30 AM, 'pianoknight said: Story B: Red Wings go undefeated and score 100 goals in every game. They also beat a team comprised of Godzilla, the ghost of Abraham Lincoln, 2 Power Rangers and Betty White. Oh, and they played in the middle of Iraq on a military base. In the sand. With no ice. Santa gave them special sand-skates that allowed them to play in shorts and t-shirts in 115 degree weather. Jesus, Zeus and Buddha watched from the sidelines and ate cotton candy. POTD 5/24/12, POTD 2/26/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worcat Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 meh, Panthers look like a college team now. Not a fan. Bleeding Blue since 1986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicate Genius Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The Leafs uniforms are horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey week Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 5 hours ago, DiePerske said: This is, honestly, why I'm in favour of adding jersey ads, on the condition that the on ice ads are removed. I'd rather have a clean playing surface than an ad free jersey See, I think that's the opposite problem, that's the respect problem. None of the major sports in North America have ads, so if the NHL has ads all over their jerseys, what does that say about the league? Is it worth respecting? Obviously the NBA is trying to change this...but they already have a massive fanbase that the NHL wishes they had. It's a lot easier to do this from a position of strength. Plus there's team branding and logo recognition. Being able to identify teams is a really important part of sports branding, and if your team's brand is muddied by ads, that isn't good for you. I always like to play a game with European teams, where you pull up a photo from a game and say "name the team". Sometimes it's ridiculously hard because you have no idea where their logo is on the jersey, if at all. Unless they get some ridiculously amazing deal that will change the NHL's revenue structure, the costs of ads simply isn't worth it/ I'll respect any opinion that you can defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 5 hours ago, DiePerske said: This is, honestly, why I'm in favour of adding jersey ads, on the condition that the on ice ads are removed. I'd rather have a clean playing surface than an ad free jersey Don't worry about that ever happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I wouldn't want to see the way the Panthers have the shoulder numbers and patches arranged spread to many teams, but it's ok for one team. Fingers crossed it doesn't become the next "contrasting nameplate". Toronto looks good, certainly not drastically different enough to elicit some of the strong negative responses I've seen. Really like the new crest. After all the flak my favorite team caught it is slightly humorous to see them changing their look closer to the current Lightning in regards to the striping. Will miss the triple striped socks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSayNever Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 IMO, the new Panthers identity is not any better than their original expansion look ---and that usually is the barometer of a successful update. One clear upgrade that would make the original identity much improved--- would be using the Panther head only which would have cleaned up their look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfan1 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Toronto nailed the new logo and new number font. But their previous jerseys were near perfect. The new waist stripes and socks are a downgrade and a unnecessary change. But I can see why they changed. They wanted something new to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 9 hours ago, DiePerske said: This is, honestly, why I'm in favour of adding jersey ads, on the condition that the on ice ads are removed. I'd rather have a clean playing surface than an ad free jersey That is, unfortunately, not how such things work. You can't ratchet back the ads once they encroach. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred5050 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Those virtual board ads that ring the entire length of the boards are distracting for some reason. I wonder if Sportsnet will keep using these during their regular NHL broadcasts...? Although they look better than the virtual ones they placed on the plexiglass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 hour ago, NeverSayNever said: IMO, the new Panthers identity is not any better than their original expansion look ---and that usually is the barometer of a successful update. One clear upgrade that would make the original identity much improved--- would be using the Panther head only which would have cleaned up their look. The uniforms aren't as good, but the logos are a big improvement. I don't know how anyone could prefer the '90s leaping panther over the new one, for instance. It finally looks like a real Florida panther, not an XtReMe!!!! MS Paint drawing that a 10-year-old made on Windows 95. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 6 hours ago, Danny said: The Leafs uniforms are horrible. So is the new logo. I still think the Ballard leaf was clean, sleek and classy enough for an Original Six team. If they really needed to change anything, they could have changed the font, I guess. But they didn't need such a radical change. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnPheitseog Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 39 minutes ago, Gothamite said: That is, unfortunately, not how such things work. You can't ratchet back the ads once they encroach. Sadly, you are right and I know that. Still would make that trade any day Formerly known as DiePerske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfan1 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 5 hours ago, Lights Out said: The uniforms aren't as good, but the logos are a big improvement. I don't know how anyone could prefer the '90s leaping panther over the new one, for instance. It finally looks like a real Florida panther, not an XtReMe!!!! MS Paint drawing that a 10-year-old made on Windows 95. The shape and all the parts of the original overall stand out more in stronger fashion. It pops more. It's a stronger design. The new one isn't as captivating. But at least they fixed all the wrongs with bolder outlines and simpler elements. If they fixed the new face, it would probably be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSayNever Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I would only use the head and not the body... and still like more detail in the Panthers head design. The 2016 logo looks like a Shuitterstock clip art panther. And seriously, Beezer's helmet? Maybe Top 10 of all time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Love the Beezer's mask! That Panthers sweater is a beauty. They incorporated red, navy, and athletic gold brilliantly. I have that sweater and I will never give it up! The new one is just okay to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Giant Pacific Octopus Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 21 hours ago, B-mer said: Screen of the Panthers Bleh. The Catch of the Day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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