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54 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

WOAH. $18 million a year for :censored:ing Brock Osweiler?!?!

 

 

Yeah, Denver just dodged a bullet. And Bill O'Brien is an even bigger idiot that I thought he was if he helped push that kinda deal. 

 

 

At least they get that Brock Osweiler to Jaelen Strong Sun Devils connection, I guess :rolleyes: 

I agree that is absurd for Brock but I have to disagree about O'Brien. He took a team with NO QB talent to the playoffs, it isn't his money, he isn't the GM if I were him I would have pushed for Brock too. Brock is a huge upgrade from their QB play last year (which says a lot in and of itself because I don't think he's very good). IMO Brock and Bill are the only winners coming out of this situation (including the Broncos).

 

P.S. In regard to the hurt feelings, if that is true it's pathetic. He was replaced by a QB named Peyton Manning who ended up winning the Super Bowl, you can't be mad about that.

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Eagles contract with Chase Daniel is for at least 3/$21M.  For a BACKUP. But...

 

The Sam Bradford / Eagles contact is worded in a way that allows for him to be traded by 3/18 without the Eagles paying him a dime, and before 9/1 with only paying him a tiny amount.

 

Chip? Elway? Anyone?

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Cujo said:

Reports are that Brock's feelings were hurt when (re)benched in Week 17 for the great Peyton Manning. For this, he was very distant with Denver during negotiations because of this, even ignoring calls from Elway.

 

I'm sure more will come out. But wow, what a baby! Good riddance.

 

I never was a fan of Brock and that just seals it.  If he is upset that PEYTON MANNING took over the starting job for the NFL playoffs, he needs a serious reality check.

 

Glad that the Broncos didn't pay him that much.  

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4 minutes ago, CreamSoda said:

 

I never was a fan of Brock and that just seals it.  If he is upset that PEYTON MANNING took over the starting job for the NFL playoffs, he needs a serious reality check.

 

Glad that the Broncos didn't pay him that much.  

 

This is silly. In any profession, if you get your chance in the big chair you want to keep it regardless of who they give it to - especially if you feel you're performing letter. Anyone would feel the same way. He feels like he was robbed of an opportunity to play in a Super Bowl, and while I have no idea how good he is, I don't blame him (or anyone else) for wanting his opportunity. 

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3 minutes ago, kcchiefsfan said:

I agree that is absurd for Brock but I have to disagree about O'Brien. He took a team with NO QB talent to the playoffs, it isn't his money, he isn't the GM if I were him I would have pushed for Brock too. Brock is a huge upgrade from their QB play last year (which says a lot in and of itself because I don't think he's very good). IMO Brock and Bill are the only winners coming out of this situation (including the Broncos).

 

Yeah I understand that, but that defense was pretty overrated last season due to starting off relatively cold. They basically carried that team. 

 

Honestly, I've never thought anything of Bill O'Brien. He basically ambulance chased the nearly untouchable Penn State job for the specific purpose of turning it into a bigger gig IMO. He's made some really questionable decisions as coach of the Texans and I think has already been exposed as not being able to handle a roster properly. He got his "guy" now, and this is his year to prove me wrong, but I still think they won't improve much offensively. 

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What's wrong with someone having a career goal and taking the steps necessary to achieve it? Sure it's better for Penn State if their coach wants to be a lifer, but I can't fault someone for capitalizing on an opportunity. 

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I don't have any problem with that, but I think he saw the Penn State gig as an opportunity to get himself higher in the ranks than he's really worth. It's a smart move on his part career wise, I just don't think he's a very good coach. 

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6 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

He (O'Brien) got his "guy" now, and this is his year to prove me wrong, but I still think they won't improve much offensively. 

 

Bill O'Brien had "his guy" when the Texans traded for Ryan Mallett, a player he had previously coached in New England -- and that turned out to be an absolute disaster.

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3 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

This is silly. In any profession, if you get your chance in the big chair you want to keep it regardless of who they give it to - especially if you feel you're performing letter. Anyone would feel the same way. He feels like he was robbed of an opportunity to play in a Super Bowl, and while I have no idea how good he is, I don't blame him (or anyone else) for wanting his opportunity. 

 

Umm sorry but that is just wrong.

 

If you feel entitled to take over a LEGENDS job, then you have a serious delusion problem.   Pay your dues.

 

Plus he would be the starting QB this year, no question about it.  He let a benching for Manning be an excuse to get out of Denver...

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2 hours ago, CreamSoda said:

 

Umm sorry but that is just wrong.

 

If you feel entitled to take over a LEGENDS job, then you have a serious delusion problem.   Pay your dues.

 

Plus he would be the starting QB this year, no question about it.  He let a benching for Manning be an excuse to get out of Denver...

 

He didn't feel "entitled" to it - he felt that he earned it - and why wouldn't he - his freaking coach made him the starter! 

 

Youre looking img at this from a fan's perspective. Dude has every right to be bitter. Doesn't mean he should have walked though, but money talks. 

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2 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

He didn't feel "entitled" to it - he felt that he earned it - and why wouldn't he - his freaking coach made him the starter! 

 

Youre looking img at this from a fan's perspective. Dude has every right to be bitter. Doesn't mean he should have walked though, but money talks. 

He got yanked for an all-time great.   An All-Time great who still performed well enough to win the Super Bowl. 

 

He can take his cry baby attitude to Houston where he will be forgotten in 2 years time.

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if the next president gets all of the leaders in the Middle East to agree to peace and is going to fly over there for the historic treaty signing which will cement his place in world history, then right before he gets on AF1 he's tapped on the shoulder and someone says "sorry mr (or madam) president - we've exhumed Abe Lincoln and actually made him president again so he can get this signed. Sure, he freed the slaves, but this is a chance for him to have one last monumental accomplishment." you don't think POTUS would go ballistic? I mean it's Abe freaking Lincoln - he's pretty much universally considered an all-time great. 

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13 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

if the next president gets all of the leaders in the Middle East to agree to peace and is going to fly over there for the historic treaty signing which will cement his place in world history, then right before he gets on AF1 he's tapped on the shoulder and someone says "sorry mr (or madam) president - we've exhumed Abe Lincoln and actually made him president again so he can get this signed. Sure, he freed the slaves, but this is a chance for him to have one last monumental accomplishment." you don't think POTUS would go ballistic? I mean it's Abe freaking Lincoln - he's pretty much universally considered an all-time great. 

The problem with this analogy is that the President already accomplished what he needed to and he had his glory stolen to be given to a legend.

 

Brock played horribly in week 17 and was benched because it looked like they might lose to the Chargers, if that happened KC would have won the division and put Denver into the 5 seed. The Broncos would NOT have won the Super Bowl if they would have had to go to Houston, New England, and KC. In Brock's case Kubiak allowed him to start for as long as he could before it became obvious that Manning needed to replace him. Brock didn't have SB glory stolen from him and he didn't earn a chance to play in the playoffs, He started 7 of 16 games, Manning was (kinda maybe) hurt and got his job back as soon as Brock faltered.

 

He had his chance to continue to lead the team and completely blew it with inconsistent performances and play that got worse each week. 

 

Brock is being a crybaby, which is certainly his prerogative but don't claim he took Denver to that SB and had it snatched from him. 

 

Lastly, as a Chiefs fan I am thrilled, the way this QB situation has gone has been absolutely perfect. Historical Defenses are normally much worse in subsequent seasons so I wouldn't be surprised if the Broncos end up out of the playoffs in third in the AFCW.

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Just now, BringBackTheVet said:

Hes drying his tears with handfuls of $1,000 bills. Or maybe a print out of his bank statement. 

Don't think I'm not thrilled and wouldn't have done the same thing if the money was much better if I were him. I'm just saying, he didn't deserve to play in the playoffs and seemed to let his emotions take him away from the defending SB champ and a historically good D with a coach he knows for a completely new (and worse) situation.

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