PittsburghSucks Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/01/13/lawrence-phillips-death-prison/78742058/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Well... Duh. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Oooooooooooooooooooooooooh well www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almighty Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Never understood why you have a cellmate in prison, prison is hard enough without someone else living with you in a little box. The team "Mate" is really out of place here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh.0 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The man that sent 'The Bus' to Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc49erfan15 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The man that's partly responsible for the end of Steve Young's career.Despite that - you can call me a bleeding heart pansy - but I'm not going to pile on.It's clear the guy had issues. Not that it forgives anything that he did, but it really is a shame that someone with his kind of talent couldn't get himself together. I know, these are always the things you hear when someone with a troubled past succumbs to themselves - inner demons and yada yada yada, but it's unfortunate that these stories so often have to end this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'll just say that I'm glad Ozzie Newsome talked Art Modell into drafting Jonathan Ogden instead of Lawrence Phillips. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Hey, say what you will about him, but Lawrence Phillips served as an inspiration to many NFL players.Just ask Rae Carruth or Aaron Hernandez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Hey, say what you will about him, but Lawrence Phillips served as an inspiration to many NFL players.Just ask Rae Carruth or Aaron Hernandez.Players killed to be like Lawrence... I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoknight Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Since everyone seems to be piling on the negative, NFL side of LP...The man had problems. That's absolutely clear. But he's probably also one of the greatest CFB running backs to have played the game. I read one quote saying that the only defense that could stop Lawrence Phillips were his own demons. FWIW, in the last several years there were some letters he wrote to his old coaches at NU and other places. He seemed like a repentant man looking for a new chance but being from the SoCal area originally, many of his prison mates knew him as a kid and there was some badge of honor to be had for being the guy to kill a former football star. Phillip's cell mate was recently found dead - at the hands of LP, no less - but all accounts showed it was likely self defense and that he was attacked by the other inmate.I say all that not to exonerate him or free him from the responsibility of his own life choices. But clearly, every person is shades of gray. A tragic life comes to a tragic end.I probably won't toast him the next time I drink, but for anyone who can simply appreciate the raw talent and love for the game, here's Lawrence at his best. A freak athlete with size, speed, power AND cutting ability. 5th in NAT. TITLES | 2nd in CONF. TITLES | 5th in HEISMAN | 7th in DRAFTS | 8th in ALL-AMER | 7th in WINS | 4th in BOWLS | 1st in SELLOUTS | 1st GAMEDAY SIGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfan1 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Being rich and famous doesn't guarentee resolution of all personal issues, unlike what some struggling people may believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoknight Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Being rich and famous doesn't guarentee resolution of all personal issues, unlike what some struggling people may believe.Sage advice. Notoriety and wealth are merely catalysts. They don't change people into someone else; they change you into a more intense version of the person you already were. 5th in NAT. TITLES | 2nd in CONF. TITLES | 5th in HEISMAN | 7th in DRAFTS | 8th in ALL-AMER | 7th in WINS | 4th in BOWLS | 1st in SELLOUTS | 1st GAMEDAY SIGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodsep Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 He couldn't handle the Rams moving to LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykotyk Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Sometimes, wealth and fame simply amplify the problems you're already running from.Everyone has problems. Some bigger than others. But, life is dealing with those problems.He had a talent. No doubt about it. But, he dug his own grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Sometimes, wealth and fame simply amplify the problems you're already running from.Everyone has problems. Some bigger than others. But, life is dealing with those problems.He had a talent. No doubt about it. But, he dug his own grave.Yeah, that's kind of where I stand on this. I don't really ever like to use the term "lost cause" with anyone, but he was serving life in prison and was potentially facing the death penalty for another murder he committed while in prison. He was pretty much the dictionary definition of a lost cause. Hence the "duh". On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeseHusker Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Phenomenal waste of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoknight Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Sometimes, wealth and fame simply amplify the problems you're already running from.Everyone has problems. Some bigger than others. But, life is dealing with those problems.He had a talent. No doubt about it. But, he dug his own grave.Yeah, that's kind of where I stand on this. I don't really ever like to use the term "lost cause" with anyone, but he was serving life in prison and was potentially facing the death penalty for another murder he committed while in prison. He was pretty much the dictionary definition of a lost cause. Hence the "duh". There was a chance that he could have been released from prison around 60 or so, which is far from dead. As far as the murder in prison, he was charged with it but I don't believe they got to trial. There are conflicting accounts, but many think it was self defense (ie: the cellmate tried to murder him). Not defending him; just pointing out that he still had a chance to see daylight again.Phillips was not convicted of murder. Maybe he's guilty, but until that's proven there's an ocean of difference between this and guys like Rae Carruth or Aaron Hernandez, who were convicted of murder:On April 12, 2015, Phillips' cellmate Damion Soward, was found dead in the cell the two men shared. Soward, who was serving a sentence of 82-to-life for a murder conviction was choked to death and Phillips was regarded as the prime suspect in the case. On September 1, 2015, Phillips was charged with first-degree murder in connection with Soward's death. On November 9, 2015, the prosecutor was granted a motion to reconsider whether to seek the death penalty. Philips was awaiting trial and in segregated custody at Kern Valley State Prison when he was found unresponsive in his cell by corrections officers around midnight on January 12, 2016.For the sake of argument, let's assume he was found innocent. Compare that against Ray Rice, who essentially committed the EXACT SAME CRIME by beating the tar out of his girlfriend. Rice's charges were dropped after the court gave him the option of counseling. You have two identical situations of NFL players assaulting their significant others. One gets locked away for decades and the other has to pick up some garbage and pee in a cup once in while. That's the shame of the whole thing that nobody's talking about.Of course, if LP actually murdered the cellmate, then he got what's coming to him.The whole situation is sad any way you slice it. 5th in NAT. TITLES | 2nd in CONF. TITLES | 5th in HEISMAN | 7th in DRAFTS | 8th in ALL-AMER | 7th in WINS | 4th in BOWLS | 1st in SELLOUTS | 1st GAMEDAY SIGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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