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4 hours ago, Coast2CoastAM2006 said:

There is nothing about the NBA finals that is rigged. GS had a 3-1 series lead and is crapping the bed in epic proportions. LeBron is simply putting on a world beating performance that would make Michael Jordan envious. Which is why Cleveland is going to win the series, and make no mistake Cleveland is winning Sunday night. They are going to win by 20 points and LeBron is going to cement his legacy as the greatest of all time. This isn't rigging, this is LeBron being the best player in the world right now. The Cleveland dream is going to be realized and you don't have to rig it make it happen. 

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13 hours ago, Lights Out said:

I think certain teams, players, storylines, etc. get the benefit of a friendly whistle, but blatant rigging is impossible because of the inherent randomness of sports.

 

Exactly.  Games can be influenced, but not rigged - at least not from the start.  If it so happens to work out that the league-favored team is in a close battle with seconds left on the clock, then the outcome could easily be determined, but getting to that point can't be 'rigged'.  I firmly believe this happens in NFL, NBA, and NHL, just with so few people involved so that it doesn't get out.  Maybe not often, maybe not even a little, but it certainly happens.  SBXL is the one I'll keep going back to.  Baseball is so much harder to "influence", because 1) it's probably the most random of sports since hitting a ball is such a low-percentage proposition, and 2) even squeezing one team in the strike zone would be extremely obvious.

 

Also I'm sure TV comes in to play as well.  You want to tell me some TV execs wouldn't be on the phone to league commissioners if somehow Milwaukee and New Orleans were somehow leading their conference finals series against the Knicks and Lakers respectively?

 

12 hours ago, CRichardson said:

The NBA is definitely rigged. The aforementioned favorable calls for Jordan, Kobe, Lebron and Curry are the most common example, but the 1985 Draft Lottery was rigged to give Ewing to the Knicks and anyone with half a brain knows that the league wanted the Lakers in the 2002 Finals instead of the Kings. It's a media-driven business. The league needs money and they get it through ad revenue. They get less of it when smaller market teams are playing.

 

I used to buy in to the draft rigging, but can you name other situations like that since?  It would benefit the league to "rig" things in favor of teams like Philadelphia, not Minnesota, Cleveland, Washington, Orlando, etc.  The league and TV networks would jerk off if the Sixers were a marquee team again (look at early '00s ratings for proof) but they had to go in to full tnak mode because the system isn't rigged.  Granted, Ed Snider essentially telling David Stern to shove a deflated Spalding ball in to his butthole and then let it be fully blown up probably didn't help their chances of receiving any favors.

 

I'll admit that it's shady that it's not shown on TV, however after reading about how stupid their method for executing it is, I kind of understand how bad it would show on TV.  Still it should at least be recorded and audited. 

 

 

15 hours ago, goalieboy82 said:

the WWE and boxing is rigged, but we already knew that.  

anyway, sometimes i wonder if these leagues are rigged by the leagues themselves (not outright like the WWE) or there partners so they can get there money's worth.  its a billion dollar business do you think they want to have teams in the finals with no fan base or get low final ratings.  

 

 

WWE is not rigged.  To be "rigged", you have to be an athletic competition, which WWE is not - by any definition.  That's like saying Peanuts is "rigged" so that Charlie Brown never gets to kick the football.  WWE doesn't belong in a discussion like this - or any "competitive sports" discussion for that matter.

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1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

Exactly.  Games can be influenced, but not rigged - at least not from the start.  If it so happens to work out that the league-favored team is in a close battle with seconds left on the clock, then the outcome could easily be determined, but getting to that point can't be 'rigged'.  I firmly believe this happens in NFL, NBA, and NHL, just with so few people involved so that it doesn't get out.  Maybe not often, maybe not even a little, but it certainly happens.  SBXL is the one I'll keep going back to.  Baseball is so much harder to "influence", because 1) it's probably the most random of sports since hitting a ball is such a low-percentage proposition, and 2) even squeezing one team in the strike zone would be extremely obvious.

 

It's not like its never happened, though. Granted, the strike zone was wide for both teams, but Gregg was nuts with some of those calls against Atlanta. 

 

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56 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

It's not like its never happened, though. Granted, the strike zone was wide for both teams, but Gregg was nuts with some of those calls against Atlanta. 

 

Don't forget the '95 World Series, where (ironically) the Braves' pitchers got a laughable strike zone. Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz were getting handed strikes on obvious balls. Game 6 with Glavine on the mound was particularly egregious. The home-plate umpire (Joe Brinkman) was kneeling down five feet behind the catcher, couldn't see :censored: and was just pulling calls out of his ass. And remember - the AL and NL still had separate umpire crews back then. Brinkman was an AL umpire screwing over his own league's representative. That game and series was a big reason why the league did away with that set-up a couple years later.

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Supposed sports fan have been saying for years that NASCAR is rigged.  Yeah, so Dale Earnhardt Jr has 10 championships, amiright?

 

You can't rig major professional sports in this day and age.  Too many people watching, too much video watchers.  

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I can't get enough of that guy.

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Plus the "legends" appearance in a high school gym. The trip from 20,000-seat arenas to 200-seat gyms can be blindingly fast.

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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This is now a wrestling thread?  Cool.  Let's acknowledge the Montreal Screwjob as the biggest rigging in sports and entertainment history.  I mean sh t - it's a damn TV show, and the producer switched the script on one of the lead actors just to kill him off without him or anyone else even seeing it coming!  It'd be like if John Snow was standing over Ramsay Bolton, ready to drive Longclaw right through his heart, then George RR Martin runs out and legit slits Kit Harrington's throat.

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From tonight

 

CLE 21-25 FTM

GS 10-13 FTM

 

You may not be able to rig a championship, but you can sure grease the skids.

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16 minutes ago, The Six said:

Wrestling is a sport and wrestlers are athletes. 

 

Christ, not this again.  Amateur wrestling is a sport.  Pro wrestling is athletic entertainment.  It's not competition.  It's not even like figure skating or gymnastics.  It's cirque de solei.  There's no intelligent argument that can be made that it's sport.

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I think it best for me to avoid making any comments in these threads. I think we all know what I would say about the NBA and NHL.

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