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3 hours ago, Uglybus said:

We've been over this, my dood. some minor league team will throw a temper-tantrum if Las Vegas calls themselves that 

I'm not sure I would call the London Knights protecting their trademark a "temper-tantrum."

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6 hours ago, kroywen said:

A little cash sent up to London, Ontario, could probably solve that problem.

 

Except Foley said a while back that it was not economically feasible.  So, a little cash, (if he's telling the truth) is probably more like millions.

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14 hours ago, OnWis97 said:

Vegas Knights in White Satin.  

 

Potentially great road uniform.  And I am sure they'll be never reaching the end.

 

Fitting, considering how much they're :censored:ing Nevada taxpayers to pay for their building. 

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15 hours ago, Ice_Cap said:

I'm not sure I would call the London Knights protecting their trademark a "temper-tantrum."

While I agree with you here that they are simply protecting their property (and for good reason), I don't know that I agree with the London Knights having such powerful domain over such a ubiquitous nickname as "Knights".. I mean, you've gotta draw the line somewhere, and with all teams called "knights" at every level of competition from clubs, to schools, etc, it just seems kinda farfetched to expect no one ever to be allowed to use that moniker again (if they may potentially play a game in Canada).. Maybe I'm misinterpreting something, but man, that's just rough.. How can you trademark a nickname that others have used for ages before you?

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Just now, WavePunter said:

While I agree with you here that they are simply protecting their property (and for good reason), I don't know that I agree with the London Knights having such powerful domain over such a ubiquitous nickname as "Knights".. I mean, you've gotta draw the line somewhere, and with all teams called "knights" at every level of competition from clubs, to schools, etc, it just seems kinda farfetched to expect no one ever to be allowed to use that moniker again (if they may potentially play a game in Canada).. Maybe I'm misinterpreting something, but man, that's just rough.. How can you trademark a nickname that others have used for ages before you?

I've been wondering that as well...

 

Otherwise, where were the issues with Bobcats, Panthers, Jaguars, Hurricanes, etc.


I guess none of those teams have someone with the same name playing professionally in the same sport.  There's also history of duplication with Oilers and Jets.  But again, different sports.

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So much art, entertainment, etc exists out there in the world that it's likely impossible to come up with an image that isn't in some way similar to something done before. Yes those helmets have some likeness but there's a reality of what a knight's helmet looks like. Stray too far and you're no longer portraying what you're trying to portray. 

 

 

That being said, the name fiasco is troubling. But I was in the Las Vegas Nights camp. 

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20 minutes ago, OnWis97 said:

I've been wondering that as well...

 

Otherwise, where were the issues with Bobcats, Panthers, Jaguars, Hurricanes, etc.


I guess none of those teams have someone with the same name playing professionally in the same sport.  There's also history of duplication with Oilers and Jets.  But again, different sports.

 

The WHA had, in addition to the Oilers and the Jets, the teams called "Raiders", "Cowboys", and "Spurs".  They also had a team called the "Knights"!   And let's not forget the "Kings" teams in both the NBA and the NHL.  Also, the XFL had a team called "Hitmen", despite the existence of a minor-league hockey team with that name.

Putting aside the cross-sports names, there is an indoor football team called the "Raiders".  And let's not forget the CFL team called "Lions". It beggars belief that a minor-league hockey team can enforce the exclusivity of its nickname more effectively than NFL teams can.  (Except when the NFL can use its outsized status to influence a judge to give an unjust injunction, as in the case of the Baltimore CFL Colts.)

What's more, what I don't understand is, if that London team has trademark protection over its nickname, why don't all teams have the same protection?  Why doesn't a league see to it that all of its teams have equal status legally?

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53 minutes ago, WavePunter said:

While I agree with you here that they are simply protecting their property (and for good reason), I don't know that I agree with the London Knights having such powerful domain over such a ubiquitous nickname as "Knights".. I mean, you've gotta draw the line somewhere, and with all teams called "knights" at every level of competition from clubs, to schools, etc, it just seems kinda farfetched to expect no one ever to be allowed to use that moniker again (if they may potentially play a game in Canada).. Maybe I'm misinterpreting something, but man, that's just rough.. How can you trademark a nickname that others have used for ages before you?

 

1 minute ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

What's more, what I don't understand is, if that London team has trademark protection over its nickname, why don't all teams have the same protection?  Why doesn't a league see to it that all of its teams have equal status legally?

 

As I understand it the London Knights just have very good trademark lawyers and were able to lock their name down more securely than other teams in similar situation. 

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The London Knights have been one of the best brands in major-junior, a league where everyone would be content to dress as Boston Bruins ripoffs if they could. Also, they're one of the best organizations in major-junior, with a very nice arena that's pretty much an upper deck short of a major-league facility, some of the greatest stability in a league where teams have never stopped relocating, and with that stability they've built a long tradition of providing talent to the pros. If I had to pick one franchise/identity out of major-junior that should have a brand unto itself, I'd have to go with the Knights. (Or the Kootenay Ice. Oh, I'm kidding! Second would be the Windsor Spitfires.) So on one hand, I applaud that they're aggressively protecting their intellectual property, especially from a dumb-dumb-head like Bill Foley who would probably come to associate Knights hockey with Adobe Premiere work parts, "shiny hockey," and a general manager who punches opposing coaches in the face.

 

On the other hand, if the London Knights are what's standing between just plain Knights and some ugly modifier that makes the team, a reality we'll all have to put up with whether we like it or not, sound more minor-league than the actual London Knights, then just let Foley throw money at you and ride it out till his business fails.

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20 hours ago, Uglybus said:

We've been over this, my dood. some minor league team will throw a temper-tantrum if Las Vegas calls themselves that 

 

No, they just won't be able to protect their trademarks in Canada.  As is the London Knights' right. 

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56 minutes ago, Ice_Cap said:

As I understand it the London Knights just have very good trademark lawyers and were able to lock their name down more securely than other teams in similar situation. 

 

 I'm also given to understand that Canada has in some ways more strict trademark laws than the US.

 

Don't tell Disney, though.  Wouldn't want them to get any ideas. 

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2 hours ago, OhioSportsMan61 said:

I was watching Star Wars Clone Wars last night on Netflix, and came across this....

 

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Hmmmm

Could work if a new team ever wanted to call themselves something with a T......hmm, Thrashers perhaps?  ^_^

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