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On 9/12/2016 at 0:09 AM, See Red said:

I think the answer there could be judgement calls (did a knee touch, etc.) versus whatever term you would use for what happened in Stillwater.  Last year's Miami/Duke game, it was a judgement call of whether or not the players knee was down -- so the result would stand.  This weekend, the play shouldn't have happened as per the rules -- there's no judgement or anything.  It's black and white.  You can say with absolute certainty that if they got the call right in this case, the game would have ended on the spot.  Most importantly, there's no "well, we don't know how the last xx seconds would have played out" or anything.  I don't like the idea, but that would be the way to do it.

 

A poster above pretty much shared my sentiment that the way it was called on the field is what the rule should be, so I don't feel all that terrible for Oklahoma State.

This is my feeling as well. That play that shouldn't have happened was the last play of the game so there's no "well they had a chance to come back from the bad call". It wasn't an un-timed down that happened at the end of the first half and then impacted the rest of the game. It was the last play of the game, just take it back right to when it should've ended and call it a day. 

 

In this discussion someone brought up the Colorado-Missouri 5th down and that game was ended on a play that shouldn't have happened. The 5th down was the last play, but even there there is some Butterfly Effect stuff happening. Colorado would've played differently if their 3rd down try was actually corrected as 4th down. There's no Butterfly Effect alternate universe changes to this game if the play is called correctly. The game just ends as it should have. 

 

I also agree that rule is dumb. I don't like penalties where the offending team benefits or is, at least, not punished. You shouldn't be allowed to end a game on an offensive penalty just as you can't end it on a defensive penalty. 

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Was it the wrong call? Yeah... but, nothing you can about it if you are Oklahoma State.. Move on and prepare for Pittsburgh.

 

Anyway.. I kind of want to see if Lamar Jackson is actually worth the hype. Yes, he has 13 touchdowns in the first half alone... but that was against Charlotte and Syracuse. Let's see if he do anything against Florida State.

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21 hours ago, dfwabel said:

The ACC does have choices for a neutral enue, but...

 

Orlando and the Meadowlands have that weekend booked with HS championship games.

 

Tampa doesn't want to host since the College Football Playoff title game will be five weeks away and hosting the ACC takes away time/labor for the bigger event.

 

So that leaves:

DC (Both RFK and FedEx Field are available)

Jacksonville

Foxboro

Miami

 

And a sleeper

Yankee Stadium (Field will be prepared for New Era Bowl, but hotel rooms first weekend in December will be a problem)

Now the biggest obstacle would be convincing ESPN/ABC to move the game out of it's current time slot (the 8pm game on the final weekend), but if moving the game to Friday night is an option, I wouldn't be surprised if Atlanta becomes an option.  It's pretty central for the conference....6 hours or less drive for the NC schools, Clemson, Louisville, and Florida State....and plenty of flights that go from here to Miami, DC, New York, and Boston.  And the folks at the Georgia Dome are no strangers to accommodating big events at late notice.  Only problem is that the SEC has so many events and ceremonies during that week that they may not want the extra traffic and competition for the ACC to do their championship week festivities.

 

Orlando apparently wants the game, and high school championships are pretty easy to reschedule/relocate.

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A Friday night game puts it up against the Pac-12 game on FOX.

 

Friday night, December 2 on ESPN is a NBA doubleheader (CLE@CHI & HOU@DEN) with the MAC Championship on ESPN2.

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I was gonna suggest Syracuse, yet we beat that horse pages & threads ago.  

 

Orlando would seem the natural quick fix choice.

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Personally, I'd prefer Washington, DC and FedEx Field. It's literally in the heart of ACC country and it would be easy for everyone to get there... but I have this strange feeling that a certain someone here (whose name I won't mention... *cough*dfwabel*cough*) will spoil it.

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16 minutes ago, Seadragon76 said:

Personally, I'd prefer Washington, DC and FedEx Field. It's literally in the heart of ACC country and it would be easy for everyone to get there... but I have this strange feeling that a certain someone here (whose name I won't mention... *cough*dfwabel*cough*) will spoil it.

WAS has three consecutive road games after hosting GB on Nov. 20; it is clearly available.

 

The FL high school championship games can stay in Orlando and move to UCF's Bright House stadium but that cannot be immediately done since (while unlikely) UCF still could host a The American title game.

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UTSA leading after 3! They definitely came to play tonight. Let's see if they can close it out.

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The rest of them probably got bought up by New Kids on The Block.

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:censored: game from the Devils tonight, but in the Todd Graham era (and every era before that if we're really being honest), that's kinda how it goes. But they didn't hand UTSA the biggest win in their program's history, and they're already halfway to bowl eligibility. That's about all I could really hope for this year. I'd say I hope Graham is gone after this year, but who are they gonna replace him with? Dennis Erickson? Dirk Koetter? :censored:, Todd Graham is probably the best they could do. 

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10 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

:censored: game from the Devils tonight, but in the Todd Graham era (and every era before that if we're really being honest), that's kinda how it goes. But they didn't hand UTSA the biggest win in their program's history, and they're already halfway to bowl eligibility. That's about all I could really hope for this year. I'd say I hope Graham is gone after this year, but who are they gonna replace him with? Dennis Erickson? Dirk Koetter? :censored:, Todd Graham is probably the best they could do. 

Remember, then ASU AD, Steve Patterson originally hired June Jones, but was rejected by the university president.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/june-jones-was-arizona-states-new-coach-today-until-he-wasnt?urn=ncaaf,wp11243

 

The AD has NFL ties, if Graham is fired, Sparky's hiring someone from the NFL ranks.

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Who? Greg Roman? Cool two years ago maybe. Now, though? 

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Why is Miami at App State?


Here is the most concise explanation. 

 

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Appalachian had two other schools on its 2016 non-conference schedule before Miami, and the Hurricanes’ appearance for a noon ESPN game is expected to draw a record-breaking crowd exceeding 34,000 fans.

Two years ago, the Mountaineers agreed to a home-and-home series with UMass, which would travel to Boone in 2016 and host Appalachian in 2017. The Minutemen changed course 11 months ago, adding a trip to South Carolina as an Oct. 22 game on the 2016 schedule and paying $325,000 to App State to move the game in Kidd Brewer Stadium to 2020.

Days later, Appalachian announced plans to play a home game against N.C. Central in 2016.

That agreement was still in place when serious discussions started between Miami and the Mountaineers. App State officials knew Western Michigan was looking for an FCS opponent in 2016 and played a role in connecting N.C. Central with the Broncos, who could actually offer a bigger payday than Appalachian. The Mountaineers also were agreeable to scheduling N.C. Central for a future game, so the switch was a win-win scenario for the Eagles. That paved the way for Miami and App State to reach their deal.

 

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12 hours ago, dfwabel said:

When did Todd Graham move away from the pop artist/drive-thru headset?

 

He used to wear this:

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Florida State might want to stop waiting until the 3rd quarter to play.

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Looking forward to yet another 1-11 season from KU. 

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Not that I like seeing Petrino and Grantham enjoying success....but I kinda like seeing Florida State get their dicks handed to them a little more.....

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What a performance by the Cards today! #Lamar4Heisman

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