Rj0498 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I wonder what does everyone think about the complaints from players about celebrations do you think they are right about it taking fun away from the game or are you with league saying players need to be better role models for children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Just a few weeks after the Chiefs trade Knile Davis to the Packers, they have resigned him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Rj0498 said: I wonder what does everyone think about the complaints from players about celebrations do you think they are right about it taking fun away from the game or are you with league saying players need to be better role models for children I think it's possible to celebrate scoring a TD without compromising role model status. So yeah, put me on the taking fun away from the game. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 26 minutes ago, DNAsports said: Just a few weeks after the Chiefs trade Knile Davis to the Packers, they have resigned him. He also had that 90 minutes on the Jets roster before being cut so they could sign CJ Spiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rj0498 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 23 minutes ago, rams80 said: I think it's possible to celebrate scoring a TD without compromising role model status. So yeah, put me on the taking fun away from the game. I am with you on that while there are many who say act like you have been there before I agree but I think you can do that and have fun it is a similar issue with baseball celebrating is frowned upon and yet it is something the fans enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Rj0498 said: I wonder what does everyone think about the complaints from players about celebrations do you think they are right about it taking fun away from the game or are you with league saying players need to be better role models for children 1. Don't delay the game. 2. Don't bring in props. 3. Don't taunt. I think that's pretty much all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 What's wrong with props? The lack of player individuality is hurting the NFL right now. The overabundance of referee personality, however -- and isn't it weird they're the only guys on the field who can show their faces? -- is killing it. There is no joy in football. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 19 minutes ago, DG_Now said: What's wrong with props? You've crossed a line when a player runs to get a cell phone out from under the goalpost padding. Using the ball as a prop is different. Nothing extra should brought onto the field just for a TD celebration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rj0498 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I am going to agree on that using the ball as a basketball is one thing but pulling a marker out of your sock to sign a ball is too much and delays the game there is having fun and there is just mugging for the camera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Yeah, but I really don't see the harm. Remember when TO had a run of doing something new each TD? And everyone asked "What will Owens do next?" That was a good thing! You can always tell bad management when it's threatened by unexpected success. Rather than cultivate what people are reacting to, bad management tries to snuff it out. It's a bad thing. The NBA is doing gangbusters now in part because Adam Silver sits out where Stern would have stepped in. Goodell should be learning from boxing, horse racing and MLB. What was up can go down. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rj0498 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 That is true I just feel that there needs to be a fine balance between keeping things in order and having some fun because while it is good to have players show emotion and not be stoic robots I feel that having all these crazy pre planned celebrations might actually turn people off from watching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rj0498 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 21 minutes ago, Kaz said: I definitely agree that the recent crackdown on celebrations is a major factor in the ratings decline. This and too many commercials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 First Sunday not going in for work. Patriots bye week. Of course. Regarding ratings, I think we simply need more frequent matchups with team storylines. Steelers-Ravens is rather sleepy, Seahawks-Niners collapsed, Brady-Manning is no more... A couple more of this Cowboys-Eagles reboot wouldn't hurt, the Seahawks not playing down so they can be alpha dogs again wouldn't hurt, & probably if these Raiders embarass someone on the way to/in January it'll only help. NFL is a tv show... when the f was the last time anyone watched the anthems on network broadcast that wasn't primetime? Am I wrong on that? @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rj0498 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I kind of think the anthem protests have nothing to do with the ratings and if it did it would be kind of stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smzimbabwe Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I used to be a 4x a week NFL viewer, now I watch the highlights on Sunday, and maybe the odd game here and there. I can't say why, and I can't speak for others, but I've just lost interest. It's not interesting for me anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 You'd have to be some kind of dummy for non-televised anthem protests to affect your viewership. Certainly not anyone advertisers would want to reach. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 3 hours ago, 2001mark said: First Sunday not going in for work. Patriots bye week. Of course. Regarding ratings, I think we simply need more frequent matchups with team storylines. Steelers-Ravens is rather sleepy, Seahawks-Niners collapsed, Brady-Manning is no more... A couple more of this Cowboys-Eagles reboot wouldn't hurt, the Seahawks not playing down so they can be alpha dogs again wouldn't hurt, & probably if these Raiders embarass someone on the way to/in January it'll only help. NFL is a tv show... when the f was the last time anyone watched the anthems on network broadcast that wasn't primetime? Am I wrong on that? Don't worry; we have our annual Cowboys-Giants classic in a couple of more weeks to spice things up! It's ALWAYS on primetime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coast2CoastAM2006 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 8 hours ago, DG_Now said: You'd have to be some kind of dummy for non-televised anthem protests to affect your viewership. Certainly not anyone advertisers would want to reach. the only people that the anthem protest is bothering is the highly marginal fringe cult of Trump crowd and most of them are too busy worshiping at the alter of Trump to be bothered to watch NFL or sports in general. The reason the ratings are down is because the product right is not that good or fun to watch. All of which has been articulated in the last few pages. The NFL moved towards a corporate, vanilla, sanitized product. Just look at the playoffs/Super Bowl logo system as a reflection of a boring and sanitized product. Spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMcD29 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 9 hours ago, Dolphins Dynasty said: Don't worry; we have our annual Cowboys-Giants classic in a couple of more weeks to spice things up! It's ALWAYS on primetime! My running gag of calling the NFC East the GREATEST DIVISION IN SPORTS due to 4:25 Fox and SNF overexposure has been falling apart this season because the NFC East is actually good again. It's hurting my NFL joke #brand Twitter: @RyanMcD29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 The anthem protests shouldn't, and probably don't directly matter, but I think a lot of people are waking up and understanding that a good portion of the players they're going out of the way to watch are simply terrible human beings who have their whole lives handed to them on a silver platter and are allowed to beat up women, do drugs, park in handicapped spaces, punch police (Lesean McCoy), etc. I support the anthem protest, but if one doesn't, then it's just something that adds to their impression of who the players are that they're watching. That, and the fact that the teams don't really matter to a lot of people anymore, and the red-zone and fantasy-scoring plays are what many people care about has to be a factor too. The celebration thing is maybe a small part of it too. Pro sports exists as an entertainment outlet. If you want the game "the way it should be played" then watch amateur sports. These guys are entertainers, who's job is to generate revenue, not win games (though they often go hand-in-hand.) It's not that dissimilar to WWE in that respect, and it stupid that a guy can't do a dance or celebrate with teammates. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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