ElwoodCuse Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, dont care said: Title 9 would block anything close to that. female athletes wouldn't be able to be compensated as well as male athletes, Nope this isn't true either http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcedelman/2014/02/04/when-it-comes-to-paying-college-athletes-is-title-ix-more-of-a-red-herring-than-a-pink-elephant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worcat Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 You absolutely would have to pay everyone. Do you know how much negativity and backlash a university would receive if they only paid basketball players but refused to pay their swim team!? This isn't the pros where different sports can negotiate wages. At the end of the day, these are still students. God forbid we don't pay the kid learning to be a doctor or lawyer but hot damn, that boy can slam dunk a basketball! let's pay him! Empty your pockets and give him a free ride for a "degree" Bleeding Blue since 1986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElwoodCuse Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 you don't understand what you are talking about in the slightest 1 minute ago, worcat said: You absolutely would have to pay everyone. Do you know how much negativity and backlash a university would receive if they only paid basketball players but refused to pay their swim team!? There would be none because the market for basketball players is much, much bigger than the market for swimmers 2 minutes ago, worcat said: This isn't the pros where different sports can negotiate wages. Yes and that's the problem, this is illegal. 2 minutes ago, worcat said: At the end of the day, these are still students. Students that generate billions of dollars 3 minutes ago, worcat said: God forbid we don't pay the kid learning to be a doctor or lawyer but hot damn, that boy can slam dunk a basketball! let's pay him! Empty your pockets and give him a free ride for a "degree" oh we're back to the old "how come teachers and police officers are broke but this guy who can play a sport is a millionaire?" BS. Sorry our society enjoys sports and spends money on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worcat Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Yes they also spend millions on the medical and education system. The same education system that is giving these "athletes" an opportunity to play their game at the expense of the institution. Don't act like these kids are suffering. Every year they show up to the draft in thousand dollar suits and gold chains/diamonds and driving luxury cars. Every year theres a new school that gets busted for offering prostitutes, parties, money from boosters etc. Now you want to give them MORE money. Oh ok... So now they can buy their own date rape drugs instead of them being supplied by the coaching staff. Very good! Bleeding Blue since 1986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I'm not surprised to read you're from St. Louis. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worcat Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Ah yes, lets analyze where people are from to justify our comments. I'm sure you are all pushing for fast food workers to make $15 per hour as well because you know, they work hard and make billionaires richer. Bleeding Blue since 1986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Elwood, worcat, everyone else? Stop it. This isn't the thread to debate the whole "NCAA student athlete" issue. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 5 hours ago, worcat said: Yes they also spend millions on the medical and education system. The same education system that is giving these "athletes" an opportunity to play their game at the expense of the institution. Just tossing it out there, there are assistantships and job opportunities that are available to non-athletes that athletes can't receive by rule. 5 hours ago, worcat said: Don't act like these kids are suffering. Every year they show up to the draft in thousand dollar suits and gold chains/diamonds and driving luxury cars. And what about the other 98+%? 5 hours ago, worcat said: Every year theres a new school that gets busted for offering prostitutes, parties, money from boosters etc. Now you want to give them MORE money. Oh ok... So now they can buy their own date rape drugs instead of them being supplied by the coaching staff. Very good! Or conversely, if you paid them, the black market would start to die out. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worcat Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Bleeding Blue since 1986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerGuyJordan Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 15 hours ago, ElwoodCuse said: No you would not have to pay everyone, everyone would negotiate what they are worth. If they are worth a scholarship, that's what they get. If they are worth more, they get more. You are so pollyanna it's ridiculous. NCAA sports being about "education" has been a hollow lie for decades, Not really, if you're throwing all of the sports into the mix, there are still way more students using athletics as a means to get their education than not. Football and Basketball are the only two that argument really applies to (and to a much lesser degree, Baseball, Hockey and maybe Lacrosse). Even then, this argument holds a lot less weight for a school like NAU or Liberty, which are still NCAA and offer scholarships, but aren't making money off their athletics like Texas, Ohio St. or Alabama. Overall, this problem and argument only applies to, at most, 3-5 percent of all NCAA scholarships. Edit: didn't see the mod calling to knock it off until after the post. Point still stands, but let's start/revive an old thread if we're going to continue. Thunder Bay Lynx - International Hockey Association (2 seasons, 2017-18, 2019-20, 2018 Xtreme Cup Champions) | Houston Armadillos - Major League Hockey (2 seasons, 2016-18) | Minnesota Muskies - North American Basketball Association (1 season, 2017-2018) | Louisville Thoroughbreds - United League of Baseball (1 season, 2017, 2017 United Cup Champions) | Las Vegas Thunderbirds - International Basketball League (1 season, 2016-17, 2017 Champions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Ok. This thread has long since stopped being about Gary Bettman and ads on NHL sweaters. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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