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4 hours ago, McCarthy said:

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This was the right direction. The problem was both their colors were too dark and they inexplicably wore black batting helmets all the time. 

 

I always liked this color scheme.  Perhaps the blue could be lightened a little, but even reviving it as is would be fine with me.

 

The one thing that does not need to come back is the wordmark on the vest with the M and P in Tampa smashed together.

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2 hours ago, leopard88 said:

 

I always liked this color scheme.  Perhaps the blue could be lightened a little, but even reviving it as is would be fine with me.

 

The one thing that does not need to come back is the wordmark on the vest with the M and P in Tampa smashed together.

I feel like an idiot, but I've never noticed that. Maybe it's just because at the time, I really disliked those uniforms over the black and rainbow days (I was a kid), but I don't know that I ever knew about the difference in the wordmark.

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The Rays got it right when they switched to the green caps, which I think was in the last three or four years of that era (2005-07?).  I don't like vests, though.  It's a shame those uniforms had such a short shelf life.  

 

As for the Marlins, I hope new ownership means new uniforms.  I've been saying it for years, but they should just match the colors of the Dolphins (maybe a little stronger on the orange) and be done with it. It would be unique to MLB and look great.

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43 minutes ago, Jungle Jim said:

The Rays got it right when they switched to the green caps, which I think was in the last three or four years of that era (2005-07?).  I don't like vests, though.  It's a shame those uniforms had such a short shelf life.  

 

As for the Marlins, I hope new ownership means new uniforms.  I've been saying it for years, but they should just match the colors of the Dolphins (maybe a little stronger on the orange) and be done with it. It would be unique to MLB and look great.

The blue was lightened ever so slightly when these roadies were introduced around 2005 or so. Also, the piping was changed from green/white/green to green/white/blue at this time.

 

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1 hour ago, Jungle Jim said:

As for the Marlins, I hope new ownership means new uniforms.  I've been saying it for years, but they should just match the colors of the Dolphins (maybe a little stronger on the orange) and be done with it. It would be unique to MLB and look great.

 

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On 2/8/2017 at 5:11 PM, WSU151 said:

Add some medium-to-light green to the set...

 

The Rays would look pretty sweet with this color palette (maybe with a shade darker green):  http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/253713922015/NCAA_Womens_Final_Four/2015/Primary_Logo

 

This is the best color scheme I've seen suggested for the team.

 

I've never liked the dark green and colombia look.  I'll usually sit here and reasonably argue why something doesn't look good, but I struggle to do that here.  I dont know why.  I wish I knew why.  Maybe someone else can explain why this is, but when I look at the two together, they just clash hard to me and the looks comes out as a disjointed mess.  Maybe it's the fact that they're not similar enough to flow but not different enough to be striking against each other?  I just don't know, but the combination doesn't work for me.

 

I think columbia and navy looks beautiful.  People complain about the similarity to the Yankees.  I think the bit of columbia and the shock of yellow break it up enough, but I definitely think they could use more columbia and would definitely like to see a little plaid in the identity as mentioned earlier.

 

Replacing the navy with a lighter green than their previous identity?  That doesn't look half bad.  The team is already playing in a warehouse.  The dark green is too drab.  Lighten it up a bit.  Navy is dark, but it's a classic color and it has associations that keep it from getting too drab.  It's the color of the night sky.  It feels a little lighter and airier than the heavy green.  The only reason the Brewers' navy looks so drab is the mixture with a dark gold.

 

That Final Four logo.  Light green.  A blue that's a little more aqua than columbia.  Navy.  It would be a good combination.  Make the green the primary color, with navy and aqua for accents.  It could look good.  Even the yellow in a spot or two like it is now could be good.  Or you could end up looking like the West Coast (of Florida) Marlins.

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The Marlins don't need to copy the Dolphins. That just makes the Dolphins' aqua and orange a little less unique when another team is using anything remotely similar. I've said it in the Unpopular Opinions thread, I think they look close having a very good identity. Though, I'd like to see them use more blue and less orange, the black works as a base color because the logos on the black backdrops look like neon signs that you'd see in South Beach at night. With that being said, I can live without the black, but then I'd want them to emphasize the yellow more along with the orange and blue.

 

There set isn't prefect, and there are a few minor tweaks I'd like to make to them, but there's no need for another rebrand.

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22 minutes ago, Dolphins Dynasty said:

The Marlins don't need to copy the Dolphins. That just makes the Dolphins' aqua and orange a little less unique when another team is using anything remotely similar. I've said it in the Unpopular Opinions thread, I think they look close having a very good identity. Though, I'd like to see them use more blue and less orange, the black works as a base color because the logos on the black backdrops look like neon signs that you'd see in South Beach at night. With that being said, I can live without the black, but then I'd want them to emphasize the yellow more along with the orange and blue.

 

There set isn't prefect, and there are a few minor tweaks I'd like to make to them, but there's no need for another rebrand.

 

I agree with the Marlins not needing to look like the Dolphins.  I wish the Dolphins looked like the Dolphins, but that's another subject.

 

I wrote all that about Tampa, and then realized that it would make it trickier to deal with Miami if I wanted them to change from what they have.  Admittedly, I have grown accustomed to their current identity.  I don't think it's the best they could do, though.  If anything, they should lean on their unique blue.  Although their old teal, silver, and black was good before both 1993 teams decided to fade their unique colors out for black.

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Speaking of the Marlins, here's the first look at their 2017 home whites, with the All Star Game patch on the sleeve and the Jose Fernandez patch over the heart. Dee Gordon and Tom Koehler at the Florida Panthers game as the Panthers had a Marlins night and honored Jose Fernandez for the second time...

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I don't want this to come across wrong...that said, does anyone else find it odd how far all of these Fernandez tributes are going? His BAC was twice the legal limit with cocaine also in his system. It's sad and the club should acknowledge him, but he also isn't an innocent victim.

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3 minutes ago, aawagner011 said:

I don't want this to come across wrong...that said, does anyone else find it odd how far all of these Fernandez tributes are going? His BAC was twice the legal limit with cocaine also in his system. It's sad and the club should acknowledge him, but he also isn't an innocent victim.

 

If the Cards did Tavares...  That was a much more odious case than this.

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Fernandez was an icon in Miami. Taveras was a fantastic player but he didn't have nearly the following and pure love from the fans that Jose did. Fernandez had an entire section of the ballpark named after him. Each one of his starts was dubbed "Jose Day" by the team itself.

 

Yes he was intoxicated when he crashed but Jose was probably the most well-loved Marlin of at least the last decade. So all the tributes, even five months after his death are understandable. It was an unfortunate circumstance, and yes he did a stupid thing, but he was HUGE with the Marlins team and fanbase. It's no surprise they are still honoring him.

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4 hours ago, aawagner011 said:

I don't want this to come across wrong...that said, does anyone else find it odd how far all of these Fernandez tributes are going? His BAC was twice the legal limit with cocaine also in his system. It's sad and the club should acknowledge him, but he also isn't an innocent victim.

We don't know he was driving the boat and there were reports that he wasn't.

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5 hours ago, aawagner011 said:

I don't want this to come across wrong...that said, does anyone else find it odd how far all of these Fernandez tributes are going? His BAC was twice the legal limit with cocaine also in his system. It's sad and the club should acknowledge him, but he also isn't an innocent victim.

 

No, nobody else finds it odd because he was a young man who was also one of the best pitchers in the entire game and was an absolute icon in Miami. The loss was tragic, and the fact that he had been doing what he was doing makes it even more tragic because of the senselessness of it all. That being said, he was acting like a young dumb kid, like most of us have at one time or another, and paid the ultimate price for it. 

 

Nobody is condoning the action. But the action doesn't make the loss hurt any less for the sport, his team mates, the fans, and his family. 

 

Also, this is has been an absolutely BRUTAL last few years when it comes to player deaths, and his was by far the biggest (with all due respect to Ventura, Treveres, etc). 

 

Who cares if he wasn't squeaky clean innocent? That's life sometimes. 

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If a family member dies due to sad but un-innocent actions, a funeral is still held and family members still love and mourn and remember them. It's possible to mourn someone and not condone their actions that led to their death. This is what the Marlins are doing. As long as Jose didn't intentionally murder those other two men, the tributes are OK by me. The Marlins are celebrating his life, not the actions that led to his death. 

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