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12 hours ago, Brandon9485 said:

Dear Minnesota Twins, 

 

I'll give you some credit for trying to switch things up and add gold to your uniforms. Truth is it's a disaster, and you already had a great home uniform. Time to cut your loses and revert back to this beauty full-time. 

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Unpopular opinion (likely), those uniforms suck.

 

The script is ugly and the cream is dumb. The '91 Champions set was the best they've worn.

 

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The Twins have SO much good going on with their set. The TC logo is great and the M logo is equally good IMO. Both of those logos could be used in that set without a problem IMO. I wouldn't mind seeing the TC logo (paired with something similar to their last set) at home and the M cap on the road. The only thing really bad about the Twins is that they really flubbed things up going with the non pinstripe set at home. That was a really stupid move, as was the addition of that weird old gold. 

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.)
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I think the Twins should get a more radical refresh. One that produces a new "TC," totally removes the "M" logo, and one that unifies the home/road look. A slightly tweaked version of this concept by @the admiral is basically what I'm talking about:

 

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I'd clean up that "TC" logo and make the "Twins" script better match the "Minnesota" script, but Admiral's color balance (really differentiating the Twins and Indians, without altering their color scheme) and uniform design are basically what I'd want out of the team. Of course, Twins fans often freak out whenever anybody considers replacing the original "TC" with a new "TC," thinking it to be on the same level as any other classic interlocking letter logo (here's the scoop: it isn't).

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I think a "TC" logo is fine if they want to be the Twin City Baseball Club. Right now it is just ridiculous. "Twins" is okay if you want to be the Minneapolis & St. Paul Twins. If you are Minnesota,  then find a mascot that represents the whole state.  I think their whole identity and logo is a hodge podge of confusion. IMO, figure who you represent then create any identity around that. Right now they don't know if they represent the state, or two cities within.  I think they have the weakest identity in any major sports league. 

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As far as Twins vs Indians in terms of color scheme. I think the Twins should be navy first then red secondary and the Indians should be red first then navy secondary. To varying degrees they do stick to this but I like for this to be made clear because they definitely need to be differentiated in some way. 

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5 minutes ago, SilverBullet1929 said:

As far as Twins vs Indians in terms of color scheme. I think the Twins should be navy first then red secondary and the Indians should be red first then navy secondary. To varying degrees they do stick to this but I like for this to be made clear because they definitely need to be differentiated in some way. 

This is why I support their wordmark changes. They look better in red but I'm pretty sure they're the only navy and red team with navy wordmarks.

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8 hours ago, Dolphins Dynasty said:

The '91 Champions set was the best they've worn.

 

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when I think of the Twins, this is what come to mind. You can wear the cream throwbacks on sunday at home. 

I am sore,wounded, but not slain

I will lay down and bleed a while

And then rise up to fight again

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On April 15, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Ice_Cap said:

Stance has the nerve to charge over $100 for socks. I'll never approve of anything they do.

Those things are $100!? Can't imagine how that's justified. 

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44 minutes ago, Ray Lankford said:

This is why I support their wordmark changes. They look better in red but I'm pretty sure they're the only navy and red team with navy wordmarks.

The navy wordmarks are my favorite part of the current Twins look and I think that's the way they should look. The 91-era red wordmark was great but that can be an outlier, they can look good with a navy wordmark as long as the rest of the uniforms are good around it. 

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9 hours ago, SFGiants58 said:

I think the Twins should get a more radical refresh. One that produces a new "TC," totally removes the "M" logo, and one that unifies the home/road look. A slightly tweaked version of this concept by @the admiral is basically what I'm talking about:

 

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I'd like that if it were a two color interlock like the current, sure, but the outlined version here doesn't work very well. 

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I'll chime in on the stance socks. The Diamond edition ones I like Cleveland, STL, Tampa. They rest are pretty meh. The team logos are too big and the strips on some are too high on the calf. But, like someone said, if it gets rid of pajama pants, I'm all for it. 

 

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On 4/15/2017 at 10:07 PM, cheo25 said:

Agreed. Not everyone needs to wear 42. If I went to the game and am staring at the players in the field and none of them have names on the backs of the jerseys and all are wearing 42, then how the hell am I supposed to know which player is playing in the field (especially on the visiting teams)? Not only is everyone wearing 42 an act of overkill, it's an impractical mess.

I've always liked the idea of not mandating it, but allowing players to choose to wear it on April 15th if they desire, much like Ken Griffey, Jr. did in 1997 and 2007.

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16 minutes ago, lahaye7 said:

I'll chime in on the stance socks. The Diamond edition ones I like Cleveland, STL, Tampa. They rest are pretty meh. The team logos are too big and the strips on some are too high on the calf. But, like someone said, if it gets rid of pajama pants, I'm all for it. 

 

 

As much as I hate pajama pants, I'd take pajama pants all day every day over the douche styles they came up with.

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19 minutes ago, jp1409 said:

 

As much as I hate pajama pants, I'd take pajama pants all day every day over the douche styles they came up with.

oh absolutely. Thankfully, the socks are easily changeable. I saw a few more that were ok. Brewers, the giants/ O's ones w/o logo. The black and white ones w/ 10 stripes. I really dislike the MLB logo on all of them. 

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On 4/15/2017 at 10:07 PM, cheo25 said:

Not everyone needs to wear 42. If I went to the game and am staring at the players in the field and none of them have names on the backs of the jerseys and all are wearing 42, then how the hell am I supposed to know which player is playing in the field (especially on the visiting teams)? Not only is everyone wearing 42 an act of overkill, it's an impractical mess.

 

While I am not in favour of having everyone wear no. 42, these uniforms do illustrate how good the uniforms would look without the players’ names on the back. The Braves’ uniforms show this most clearly.

 

Anyway, I also don't go for the the league-wide retirement of the number. This, combined with having everyone wear it on Jackie Robinson Day, feels uncomfortably like baseball congratulating itself for being so progressive, giving the impression that the baseball establishment welcomed Jackie Robinson.

 

This papers over the real history, the fact that there were many in baseball who resented Branch Rickey for bringing in Robinson and other black players, and the fact that the other National League owners complained that visits by the Dodgers attracted black fans to the ballpark.  (The same owners who, only a few years earlier, had made sure that Bill Veeck didn't buy the Phillies once they knew of his plan to stock the club with Negro League stars.)

 

It was better when individual players could take the number 42 in tribute. When Mo Vaughn and Butch Huskey wore the number, this constituted a more natural and honest tribute. Also, it promoted more awareness of Jackie Robinson, as Robinson was mentioned during just about every game in which these players appeared.

 

We could still have a yearly Jackie Robinson Day commemoration without the league-wide number retirement and without the weird spectacle of everyone wearing the number.

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