2017/18 Soccer Kits

[BuffaloJJ]

2 hours ago, OlavoP said:

FIFA revealed the 2017 Club World Cup logo:

The recent FIFA World Cup logos should be the model for any league (NFL, NHL, etc.) who wants to create unique designs within a template.

[upperV03]

How on earth is the USL allowing white lettering/numbering on OKC's striped kit? It's even hard to read up close, let alone from afar. 

[OlavoP]

New limited edition "green obsession" Palmeiras kit:

 

 

 

 

 

[MJWalker45]

10 hours ago, upperV03 said:

How on earth is the USL allowing white lettering/numbering on OKC's striped kit? It's even hard to read up close, let alone from afar. 

May be an issue where black or white were proposed and both look muddled. Red should be available though, right?

[upperV03]

1 minute ago, MJWalker45 said:

May be an issue where black or white were proposed and both look muddled. Red should be available though, right?

They wouldn't use red since it's not a team color. But I'm sure black (or even a dark navy blue) would've been more legible than white. It definitely would look muddled, but that'd be better than having white lettering and numbering that almost completely disappears against the stripes in the background.

[MJWalker45]

Non team colors are used all the time for the specific reason of legibility. Black probably would look just as muddled as white on a TV screen.

[AnPheitseog]

1 minute ago, upperV03 said:

They wouldn't use red since it's not a team color. But I'm sure black (or even a dark navy blue) would've been more legible than white. It definitely would look muddled, but that'd be better than having white lettering and numbering that almost completely disappears against the stripes in the background.

i feel like a lighter blue mlight have been best. or the blue from their logo

[upperV03]

23 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

Non team colors are used all the time for the specific reason of legibility. Black probably would look just as muddled as white on a TV screen.

Not really, and definitely not to the extreme of using red on the home kit of a team whose color scheme is green, white, and blue. Sure, teams might use non team colors for printing if those colors correspond with the rest of the kit, but they wouldn't just add a random color for the sole reason of making the numbers more legible. 

[MJWalker45]

If they are only offered a league specific font in certain colors, they wouldn't have the option. It usually only occurs when the league demands the change but doesn't offer the numbers in a complimentary color. Newcastle United routinely had this issue until Puma simply marked off the square in the back per UEFA rules. I even remember them using red numbers one season, before going to the kit with the gold numbers shown below. 

Alternate color:

Current:

[upperV03]

That's why they'd most likely end up using black if they were limited to a certain amount of colors, or even a dark blue, since those are pretty standard options and they fit in with the team's color palette. It's not like black printing hasn't worked on green and white stripes (technically hoops) before as Celtic have been doing that forever. Ideally this is an instance where the kit should probably have a solid back but since it doesn't, there are realistic options (black, navy blue, royal blue) that would've at least made the numbers a little bit easier to read while at the same time not having to force a random color into the kit. And see, with that latest Newcastle example, their current kit has prominent gold accents so the gold numbers make sense. That's not equivalent to forcing a completely random color that doesn't appear anywhere else in the kit just for the sake of increasing legibility.

[MJWalker45]

1 hour ago, upperV03 said:

That's why they'd most likely end up using black if they were limited to a certain amount of colors, or even a dark blue, since those are pretty standard options and they fit in with the team's color palette. It's not like black printing hasn't worked on green and white stripes (technically hoops) before as Celtic have been doing that forever. Ideally this is an instance where the kit should probably have a solid back but since it doesn't, there are realistic options (black, navy blue, royal blue) that would've at least made the numbers a little bit easier to read while at the same time not having to force a random color into the kit. And see, with that latest Newcastle example, their current kit has prominent gold accents so the gold numbers make sense. That's not equivalent to forcing a completely random color that doesn't appear anywhere else in the kit just for the sake of increasing legibility.

The current kit yes, but others have not. Just pointing out that they look better than black or white numbers.

[upperV03]

Well of course they look better than black or white numbers because the stripes are black and white. But in any case gold is featured in the club crest and therefore can be considered one of their secondary colors. It's also been used as a frequent accent color in many of their kits, so when they've used gold numbers it's been appropriate, even if the only other gold in the kit has been the crest. It's still a far cry away from introducing a completely different and random color just for the sake of increasing legibility.

[MJWalker45]

We'll have to agree to disagree because legibility should be taken into consideration when making these shirts.

[upperV03]

7 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

We'll have to agree to disagree because legibility should be taken into consideration when making these shirts.

I agree, but it just couldn't get to the point of introducing a completely random color that isn't featured anywhere else in the kit or the team's color scheme. I'm not a fan of solid backs or panels on striped kits but that's a better solution than forcing a random color into a kit just to have the numbers be more legible. 

[upperV03]

New primary kit for the Thorns. Vapor Aeroswift template, just like Orlando's, and it's red with gray/black sleeves.

[Gothamite]

47 minutes ago, upperV03 said:

Well of course they look better than black or white numbers because the stripes are black and white. 

 

Bingo. 

 

For a white and green back, black or dark blue would look best.  Maximum contrast with the two stripes. 

[upperV03]

New secondary for the Seattle Reign:

This one doesn't feature the Vapor Aeroswift technology like Portland and Orlando's do.

[UnclearInitial]

It's not like it's competely unheard of for teams to add colors that aren't part of the club solely for the purpose of legibility 

 

[upperV03]

9 minutes ago, anythinglogos said:

It's not like it's competely unheard of for teams to add colors that aren't part of the club solely for the purpose of legibility 

 

In both of those instances, the color of the names and numbers appeared on other parts of the kit. In the first instance, Juve wore the Italian flag badge on the chest, where the crest would usually go, so the red names/ numbers didn't look quite as out of place with the flag badge having such a prominent place on the chest.

And in the second instance, yellow was used for the Nike logo and as always it appeared in the club crest, so the yellow printing wasn't out of place either. So in both instances they didnt just introduce a random color just for the sake of legibility. They used colors that were already featured somewhere else in the kit.

[OlavoP]

New Atlético Paranaense away kits that debuted today when they played Flamengo on the Libertadores:

Really odd choice of colours, specially for the away kit. Also, I was at the game and they are SUPER bright live.