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19 hours ago, dfwabel said:

Sykotyk gave the CCSLC the summary why many think after 20 years and USM why MLS became a pyramid scheme since the player's union has been told the league doesn't make money.

 

The league makes plenty of money.  

 

What they don't make is profit, but that's because teams are funneling that money in record amounts into facilities and into youth development.

 

The investment they're making in the future is tremendous, and they wouldn't be doing that if there wasn't a real plan for the long haul. 

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1 hour ago, Gothamite said:

 

:rolleyes: 

 

"Corporate"?

 

And they have a fine name. Heck, if only for its ownership group alone LAFC has more personality than the Galaxy does at the moment. 

 

 

Im speaking somewhat metaphorically, but yeah, kinda. They're basically part of that new trend of LA sports teams that'll play in a hugely expensive state of the art sports complex owned by billionaires and will probably instantly be a top contender because of their draw. It's understandable and I don't really hold it against them, but I have to see it as just a tad unfortunate for the rest of the league. Not so much financially, but in terms of competitive balance. 

 

I think what im trying to say is that you're right that LAFC probably already does have more personality than the Galaxy, and that's part of what's kind of disappointing. I really don't don't like defending LA teams on basic principle, but I feel for Galaxy I kind of have to. It would definitely be a shame to see a team with as storied of a history as Galaxy relegated to second tier status, no matter the reason. 

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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I have a feeling that the galaxy will be just fine. 

They have had a couple down seasons the past 2 years but I'm sure that they will spend some money again with LAFC coming in.

admittedly, I'm basing this on nothing. 

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Just a guess: Sacramento & Tampa Bay are the first of the 4 new expansion teams. They have their stadium deals in order and ownership seems solid even though both have had their issues. 

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1 minute ago, Wings said:

Just a guess: Sacramento & Tampa Bay are the first of the 4 new expansion teams. They have their stadium deals in order and ownership seems solid even though both have had their issues. 

 

They do seem to be the most ready. We'll see who is next to get everything in place. 

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6 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

Boy...this NYCFC/Sounders match is damp.

It really looks miserable. Both teams seem to be playing as if it's bone dry, but the ball keeps dying out there on the pitch.

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2 hours ago, Wings said:

Just a guess: Sacramento & Tampa Bay are the first of the 4 new expansion teams. They have their stadium deals in order and ownership seems solid even though both have had their issues. 

 

If I had to take a guess at the four clubs once the dust settles I'd say it'll end up like this: 

 

Sacramento

Tampa Bay

Cincinnati 

Phoenix (A bit of a surprise here, but they've got a really nice little plan in place and a really solid ownership group. Phoenix is also the biggest market bidding for a team right now, I believe) 

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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2 hours ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

If I had to take a guess at the four clubs once the dust settles I'd say it'll end up like this: 

 

Sacramento

Tampa Bay

Cincinnati 

Phoenix (A bit of a surprise here, but they've got a really nice little plan in place and a really solid ownership group. Phoenix is also the biggest market bidding for a team right now, I believe) 

Phoenix is coming on fast and I agree they're likely going to get a team I think.

 

Also depending on the list of media markets both Tampa/St Pete and Phoenix Metro hover around 11 and 12.

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Now that Florida has proven to work (despite the trouble with Miami), gives me thought that MLS will finally revisit Tampa Bay and with the Rowdies name and history, I think they'll do it right this time. And with the Tampa-Orlando rivalry ready to go, that will be matchup that should increase fan appeal even for games not against their rivals. And Atlanta there won't hurt, either.

 

Phoenix is the media market. But, from visiting Phoenix, whatever it takes to put a roof on it and climate-control, would go a long way for fan support. June or July nights like the heat wave right now, still won't feel good. But they're a huge city. Even with all the transplants.

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13 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

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Phoenix has a looooooooooong way to go.

It all sits on Native American land and the tribe has a plan with a developer.

 

Tampa Bay is set, if homeboy isn't convicted.

 

San Diego is in flux.

 

STL is D.O.A.

 

San Antonio is silent, just as every Peter Holt sports holding is.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Sykotyk said:

Phoenix is the media market. But, from visiting Phoenix, whatever it takes to put a roof on it and climate-control, would go a long way for fan support. June or July nights like the heat wave right now, still won't feel good. But they're a huge city. Even with all the transplants.

 

Is it possible for grass to grow inside a dome like the Minnesota Vikings new one? You know with a glass (or whatever material that is) ceiling. If so the Phoenix MLS group needs to seriously pony up and make that happen. People already complain about the heat during MLS games in the summer. A dome in Phoenix would be a necessity. That southwestern desert heat is a different beast.

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3 hours ago, 4_tattoos said:

 

Is it possible for grass to grow inside a dome like the Minnesota Vikings new one? You know with a glass (or whatever material that is) ceiling. If so the Phoenix MLS group needs to seriously pony up and make that happen. People already complain about the heat during MLS games in the summer. A dome in Phoenix would be a necessity. That southwestern desert heat is a different beast.

They can do it at Chase Fieldand University of Phoenix. It doesn't need to be a dome, just something that offers shade and possibly the Cool Fan concept football teams use in summer. 

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6 hours ago, 4_tattoos said:

 

Is it possible for grass to grow inside a dome like the Minnesota Vikings new one? You know with a glass (or whatever material that is) ceiling. If so the Phoenix MLS group needs to seriously pony up and make that happen. People already complain about the heat during MLS games in the summer. A dome in Phoenix would be a necessity. That southwestern desert heat is a different beast.

 

53 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

Just gonna say... if it's a bad idea in Qatar it's a bad idea in Phoenix. 

 

 

A retractable dome would be much too expensive. What wouldn't be is the U of Phoenix Stadium concept where the field slides out one end of the stadium into the sun and back for games. This also allows a large open floor space for conventions, other events, etc. It's also far cheaper than making the roof retract due to the weight. A light translucent roof that can be climate controlled would work quite well.

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So, the Whitecaps have had a hell of a week. Bolanos and Waston got hurt playing for Costa Rica, two residency players have been charged with sexual assault and Sheanon Williams is charged with domestic abuse. 

 

 

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