Digital Justice Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Welcome to my little thought experiment. This idea has been used on this forum before. It is the swapping of logos/history of NFL teams. For this project, I limited myself to a few guidelines. 1. The starting point is 1960. As I saw this as the first year as a whole that logos really began appearing on helmets. 2. I would limit myself to just helmets. 3. When matching up colors between teams, darker colors should substitute for darker colors, brighter for brighter, etc. 4. Black, grey, or silver can be used to outline a logo even if it's not part of the team colors (the KC rule). 5. Clip art was to be avoided, but if possible I would try to incorporate elements of existing team logos. 6. When swapping logos, try to avoid the same type. For example, the Cardinals is a head logo. So, I shouldn't use the Panthers as their replacement. However, there were a few times when I did have to ignore this guideline. 7. I tried to keep the "new" history somewhat plausible. It is possible that couple of choices are questionable, but I think I can justify them. As part of the history, I switched up the AFL and NFL names. The revised logos are below. Team colors were taken Colorwerx's website. While I used MG's Helmets and Gridiron Uniforms for guides to things such as logo size and helmet/facemask colors. As to not to spam the thread, I plan to only post 4 teams a day. They will be presented in alphabetical order. Please enjoy and any C&C is appreciated. Also if anyone wants the helmet template, I do have it available as a GIMP file (xcf). ARIZONA CARDINALS [as the Cleveland Browns]ATLANTA FALCONS [as the Philadelphia Eagles] (Version 2) (Version 3)BALTIMORE RAVENS [as the Houston Texans]BUFFALO BILLS [as the Denver Broncos] CAROLINA PANTHERS [as the Los Angeles Chargers]CHICAGO BEARS [as the Detroit Lions]CINCINNATI BENGALS [as the Arizona Cardinals]CLEVELAND BROWNS [as the Atlanta Falcons] DALLAS COWBOYS [as the Seattle Seahawks]DENVER BRONCOS [as the San Francisco 49ers]DETROIT LIONS [as the Pittsburgh Steelers]GREEN BAY PACKERS [as the New York Giants] HOUSTON TEXANS [as the Tennessee Titans] (Versions 2 & 3)INDIANAPOLIS COLTS [as the Carolina Panthers]JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS [as the Cincinnati Bengals]KANSAS CITY CHIEFS [as the New York Jets] LOS ANGELES CHARGERS [as the Los Angeles Rams]LOS ANGELES RAMS [as the Baltimore Ravens]MIAMI DOLPHINS [as the New England Patriots]MINNESOTA VIKINGS [as the Washington Redskins] NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS [as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers]NEW ORLEANS SAINTS [as the Minnesota Vikings]NEW YORK GIANTS [as the Chicago Bears]NEW YORK JETS [as the Buffalo Bills] OAKLAND RAIDERS [as the Indianapolis Colts] PHILADELPHIA EAGLES [as the Green Bay Packers]PITTSBURGH STEELERS [as the Dallas Cowboys]SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS [as the Oakland Raiders] SEATTLE SEAHAWKS [as the Miami Dolphins]TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS [as the Jacksonville Jaguars]TENNESSEE TITANS [as the Kansas City Chiefs] WASHINGTON REDSKINS [as the New Orleans Saints] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Justice Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 ARIZONA CARDINALS [as the Cleveland Browns] Established: 1946 First season: 1946 (NFC), 1950 (AFL) League championships: 8 NFC Championships: 4 - 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949 AFL Championships: 4 - 1950, 1954, 1955, 1964 As Arizona takes its nickname from the color and not the bird, I thought the Browns was the obvious choice for the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Justice Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 ATLANTA FALCONS [as the Philadelphia Eagles] Established: 1933 First season: 1933 (AFL) League championships: 3 AFL championships (pre-1970 AFL–NFL merger): 3 - 1948, 1949, 1960 Probably the most obvious logo swap, a wing for a wing. Not one of my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Justice Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 BALTIMORE RAVENS [as the Houston Texans] Established: 1999 First season: 2002 (AFL) League championships: 0 My Rams/Ravens mashup was to close to another mashup design. So, the Ravens are here (as it was only other place I get the Ravens to fit). Even though the Ravens use a head logo, I think the secondary logo is different enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Justice Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 BUFFALO BILLS [as the Denver Broncos] Established: 1959 First season: 1960 (NFL IV), 1970 (AFL) League championships: 3 Super Bowl championships: 3 - 1997 (XXXII), 1998 (XXXIII), 2015 (50) For this switch up, I was stuck between the choices of Miami and Buffalo. I ultimately choose Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubsfan2015 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I really like the idea. Will be watching closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panthers_2012 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I would flip the wings on the falcon concept. I think it would look better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonRoll21 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 This is a great start. I have one suggestion though. You should be more specific when you're posting your mashups. I can't tell who is with who. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezus_Ghoti Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I agree. Took me a moment to figure out the Bills were mashed up with the Broncos. I think you need to make it more clear what the team pairs are. Enjoying this a lot so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Justice Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 5 hours ago, CinnamonRoll21 said: This is a great start. I have one suggestion though. You should be more specific when you're posting your mashups. I can't tell who is with who. 3 hours ago, Jezus_Ghoti said: I agree. Took me a moment to figure out the Bills were mashed up with the Broncos. I think you need to make it more clear what the team pairs are. Enjoying this a lot so far. I definitely agree. I meant to back and add team names before I posted, but I forgot. I have since gone back and added them. The first four teams are as follows: the Arizona Cardinals as the Cleveland Browns, the Atlanta Falcons as the Philadelphia Eagles, the Baltimore Ravens as the Houston Texans, and the Buffalo Bills as the Denver Broncos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Justice Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 7 hours ago, panthers_2012 said: I would flip the wings on the falcon concept. I think it would look better. I choose that direction to have the curve of the wing match the curve of the helmet. However, here are the helmets with the logo flipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midway Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Your Falcons wings still need work. The wings are supposed to come off the edge of the helmet, not just float above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHcreative Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Yeah, with the falcon wings I would maybe flip them vertically and then rotate them about 25° and extend the wing to the front of the helmet. So, far though, this is a pretty decently series. I love all these team matchup/switches I've seen over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffinM6 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 You could always angle the wings upward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Justice Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 CAROLINA PANTHERS [as the Los Angeles Chargers] Established: 1959 First season: 1960 (NFL IV), 1970 (AFL) League championships: 1 NFL Championships: 1 - 1963 The logo is suppose to be swiping paw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Justice Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 CHICAGO BEARS [as the Detroit Lions] Established: 1930 First season: 1930 (AFL) League championships: 4 AFL Championships (pre–1970 AFL–NFL merger): 4 - 1935, 1952, 1953, 1957 The logo is a badly drawn leaping bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Justice Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 CINCINNATI BENGALS [as the Arizona Cardinals] Established: 1898 First season: 1920 (AFL) League championships: 2 AFL Championships (pre-1970 AFL–NFL merger): 2 - 1925, 1947 A simple swap of a bird head for a tiger head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Justice Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 CLEVELAND BROWNS [as the Atlanta Falcons] Established: 1965 First season: 1966 (AFL) League championships: 0 I though about using a dog, but as Brownie came first, I went with him. I originally used the "halfback Brownie" for the first logo, but then came across an alternate standing Brownie on a newspaper article about the various (and lack of) Browns logos. I thought that logo brought a better continuity to the helmets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panthers_2012 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 50 minutes ago, Digital Justice said: CAROLINA PANTHERS [as the Los Angeles Chargers] Established: 1959 First season: 1960 (NFL IV), 1970 (AFL) League championships: 1 NFL Championships: 1 - 1963 The logo is suppose to be swiping paw. I would try doing whiskers instead of the paw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Pilgrim Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 On 2/26/2017 at 0:57 AM, Digital Justice said: ARIZONA CARDINALS [as the Cleveland Browns] Established: 1946 First season: 1946 (NFC), 1950 (AFL) League championships: 8 NFC Championships: 4 - 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949 AFL Championships: 4 - 1950, 1954, 1955, 1964 As Arizona takes its nickname from the color and not the bird, I thought the Browns was the obvious choice for the switch. (Snip) I think that was the baseball Cardinals, not the football Cardinals, but not entirely sure at the moment. I'd perhaps, in this sort of thing, swap the Cardinals with some team like the Chargers, for example. That would change things around here with your helmet swaps, no doubt, but if so, then so be it, if you'd change the already-posted helmets and teams accordingly, of course, That is all for now, at least. Turtle Pilgrim out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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