Gothamite Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 hours ago, ltjets21 said: I know the dodgers tried to get a domed stadium in Brooklyn but are there any renderings of the Giants looking for a new stadium? Nope. Horace Stoneham, the Giants' owner, did say in the mid-1950s that if the city was going to contribute to a new Dodgers stadium then it should contribute equally to a stadium for his club. But I'm not aware he ever did very much to explore that possibility. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltjets21 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Nope. Horace Stoneham, the Giants' owner, did say in the mid-1950s that if the city was going to contribute to a new Dodgers stadium then it should contribute equally to a stadium for his club. But I'm not aware he ever did very much to explore that possibility. It never made sense to me how the more successful teams as far as championships seemed to always be pushed out of town. Philadelphia A's and the Giants were treated like trash to the Phillies and the Dodgers. Granted the Dodgers ended up moving anyway but they had the offer to move to Flushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Don't forget the Cardinals, who were almost forced out of St. Louis because the Browns owned the ballpark. If they hadn't tapped into the deep Busch pockets it would have been the other team moving to somewhere like LA or Baltimore. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 51 minutes ago, ltjets21 said: It never made sense to me how the more successful teams as far as championships seemed to always be pushed out of town. Philadelphia A's and the Giants were treated like trash to the Phillies and the Dodgers. Granted the Dodgers ended up moving anyway but they had the offer to move to Flushing. It wasn't so much that the A's were treated like trash as much as it was that They made a lot of bad business decisions, had ownership disputes, basically ran out of money, and were lead by a legitimately senile president/GM/manager who ran them into the ground. For most of the A's existence it was the phillies that were ignored and in danger of folding. It took a while but eventually A's fans abandoned the team and I guess started supporting the Phillies. The timing of the Wiz Kids run in 1950 definitely helped swing the pendulum. http://sabr.org/research/departure-without-dignity-athletics-leave-philadelphia "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltjets21 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 On April 21, 2017 at 4:34 PM, BringBackTheVet said: It wasn't so much that the A's were treated like trash as much as it was that They made a lot of bad business decisions, had ownership disputes, basically ran out of money, and were lead by a legitimately senile president/GM/manager who ran them into the ground. For most of the A's existence it was the phillies that were ignored and in danger of folding. It took a while but eventually A's fans abandoned the team and I guess started supporting the Phillies. The timing of the Wiz Kids run in 1950 definitely helped swing the pendulum. http://sabr.org/research/departure-without-dignity-athletics-leave-philadelphia I feel like you hear stories of the whole neighborhood living and dying with teams but it seems like they were a bunch of front runners. Teams moving a few years after they win it all shows their loyalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, ltjets21 said: I feel like you hear stories of the whole neighborhood living and dying with teams but it seems like they were a bunch of front runners. Teams moving a few years after they win it all shows their loyalty. So you didn't actually read what I wrote or the link I posted. OK. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltjets21 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 12 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said: So you didn't actually read what I wrote or the link I posted. OK. I was talking more about the Giants...won in 51 and no fan support in 55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 My former roommate who is a lovable guy, but the most often wrong person I know claimed last night that Cincinnati once got very close to hosting the 2012 Olympics. I looked it up and it turns out they submitted a bid, but never made it past the early stages. His definition of "very close" is different from mine. Posting here in this thread because online searches turned up some nifty artwork. http://www.cincinnativseveryone.com/5-cincinnati-tried-to-host-the-2012-olympics-take-a-look-at-what-could-have-been/ Nippert Stadium, home of UC football and FC Cincinnati futbol would've had a temporary dome on it for gymnastics. this would've interesting. Right now that area is industrial and ugly. this actually wouldn't have required much in the way of a stadium. Those bleachers already exist. It's just funny to me that they'd allow people to swim in the Ohio River, much less world class athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Paris, London, Madrid, NYC, Rio, and.... Cincinnati? I give credit to the artist - that drawing makes the city look way bigger than it is. THe idea of a temporary dome is intriguing - curious how they'd erect it and remove it, and if it could be easily repeated whenever they wanted to do more events there. I'm big on the idea of stadium "umbrellas", just haven't seen any that are economical and efficient. Is it the field in the bottom left of the drawing that would have the temp dome? "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichO Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 On 4/23/2017 at 9:29 AM, McCarthy said: this actually wouldn't have required much in the way of a stadium. Those bleachers already exist. It's just funny to me that they'd allow people to swim in the Ohio River, much less world class athletes. I love unrealized Olympic bids. Where the wild dreams of planners and sports intersect. Ironman Louisville's swim is in the Ohio so I guess that part isn't so wild. Though rivers strike me as a little active for a swimming event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichO Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Speaking of unrealized Olympic bids, I don't even know how to describe Baku Azerbaijan's stadium from this 2016 bid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 On 4/23/2017 at 2:54 PM, BringBackTheVet said: Paris, London, Madrid, NYC, Rio, and.... Cincinnati? I give credit to the artist - that drawing makes the city look way bigger than it is. THe idea of a temporary dome is intriguing - curious how they'd erect it and remove it, and if it could be easily repeated whenever they wanted to do more events there. I'm big on the idea of stadium "umbrellas", just haven't seen any that are economical and efficient. Is it the field in the bottom left of the drawing that would have the temp dome? No that would've been a new stadium that would've removed seats afterwards and been a part of an mls bid. The stadium that would've had the temporary roof is on The university of Cincinnati's campus which is north of downtown and not in that rendering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 16 hours ago, McCarthy said: No that would've been a new stadium that would've removed seats afterwards and been a part of an mls bid. The people behind FC Cincinnati's current MLS bid haven't made their stadium plans public, wonder if they're proposing using any of that industrial land now. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 19 hours ago, RichO said: Speaking of unrealized Olympic bids, I don't even know how to describe Baku Azerbaijan's stadium from this 2016 bid Whimsical and unrealistic come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 So Cincinnati was looking at a MLS bid as early as 1998-99? The USOC dropped Cincinnati, Tampa, Dallas, and LA from 2012 consideration in October 2001. https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/usoc-to-trim-field-of-us-bid-cities-for-2012-games-to-two/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 21 minutes ago, Gothamite said: The people behind FC Cincinnati's current MLS bid haven't made their stadium plans public, wonder if they're proposing using any of that industrial land now. I've heard they are looking at that general area and also in Oakley where I live which is a neighborhood about 10 minutes north east of downtown. It's really too bad they built the stupid casino where they did because that'd be the perfect place to plop down a SSS and/or new arena/concert venue. Also in the news is the city was given hosting duties for the 2022 NCAA tournament and the current US Bank Arena owners said they'd like to replace it before then, but said that taxpayers would have to help. Given this city's dark history with taxpayer funded stadiums I don't know if I see it happening. You may see some US Bank Arena renovations or arena proposals in this thread in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 On 3/24/2017 at 3:21 PM, rsaline said: Or the other Cisco Field... Or the pre-Cisco Field Cisco Field in Oakland just north of the Coliseum across 66th Ave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 16 hours ago, bosrs1 said: Or the pre-Cisco Field Cisco Field in Oakland just north of the Coliseum across 66th Ave... This version was also pretty cool, but I think the buildings in CF and LF may be good examples of trying just a little bit too hard. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, leopard88 said: This version was also pretty cool, but I think the buildings in CF and LF may be good examples of trying just a little bit too hard. yeah I agree. I used to think that design was awesome, but it's a little too cutesy and over done in the same way as Enron Field is cutesy and over done. The pool on the roof of the tower, the overhanging seating in center field are good examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 hour ago, leopard88 said: This version was also pretty cool, but I think the buildings in CF and LF may be good examples of trying just a little bit too hard. Particularly CF. I cannot even tell what is/isn't a home run from that rendering. Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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