Brian in Boston Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 56 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said: Since the number of teams changed, they probably changed the rules right after to allow any country that could handle 80 games in 30 days to place their bids. I haven't heard that it's been made official though. The FIFA Council came to its unanimous decision to expand the World Cup tournament field to 48 teams in January of this year. As recently as last month, The Guardian was reporting that European and Asian nations were still "excluded from the bidding (for World Cup 2026) following the selection of Russia and Qatar in 2018 and 2022 respectively." If FIFA has changed its stand on UEFA and AFC member-nations being excluded from hosting the 2026 World Cup unless no bid from a member-nation of the Confederation of African Football, the South American Football Confederation, the Oceania Football Confederation, or CONCACAF is found to meet FIFA requirements, then they've certainly managed to keep that decision under wraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 The only one I'd be worried about is Australia/New Zealand only because they'd be forced to build multiple stadiums which is what FIFA likes as much as more money. The best attended tournament is still USA94. That was a 24 team tournament. This could possibly triple that with the right teamsand venues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said: FIFA also had the rule of each confederation getting the chance to host the World Cup until 2020, only to detonate it when only South Africa and Brazil placed bids for the World Cups that they won. Had that rule been in place through the entire cycle, the US would probably be getting ready for next year's World Cup instead of Russia. Since the number of teams changed, they probably changed the rules right after to allow any country that could handle 80 games in 30 days to place their bids. I haven't heard that it's been made official though. For 2010, Morocco also bid and reportedly had the votes to winbefore Jack Warner took $10M in bribes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rich Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 The United Bid Committee released the list of U.S., Canada and Mexico stadiums and locations being considered as venue sites. The pool of sites is to be reduced to 25 in October, and eventually down to 12 venues. USA 37 stadiums in 34 markets Atlanta, Mercedes-Benz Stadium Baltimore, M&T Bank Stadium Birmingham, Legion Field Boston/Foxborough, Gillette Stadium Charlotte, Bank of America Stadium Chicago, Soldier Field Cincinnati, Paul Brown Stadium Cleveland, FirstEnergy Stadium Dallas, Cotton Bowl Dallas/Arlington, AT&T Stadium Denver, Sports Authority Field at Mile High Detroit, Ford Field Green Bay, Lambeau Field Houston, NRG Stadium Indianapolis, Lucas Oil Stadium Jacksonville, EverBank Field Kansas City, Arrowhead Stadium Las Vegas, Raiders Stadium Los Angeles, Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum Los Angeles, LA Stadium at Hollywood Park Los Angeles, Rose Bowl Miami, Hard Rock Stadium Minneapolis, US Bank Stadium Nashville, Nissan Stadium New Orleans, Mercedes-Benz Superdome New York/New Jersey, MetLife Stadium Orlando, Camping World Stadium Philadelphia, Lincoln Financial Field Phoenix/Glendale, University of Phoenix Stadium Pittsburgh, Heinz Field Salt Lake City, Rice-Eccles Stadium San Antonio, Alamodome San Diego, Qualcomm Stadium San Francisco/San Jose, Levi's Stadium Seattle, CenturyLink Field Tampa, Raymond James Stadium Washington, D.C./Landover, FedEx Field Canada Nine stadiums in seven markets Calgary, McMahon Stadium Edmonton, Commonwealth Stadium Montreal, Stade Olympique Montreal, Stade Saputo Ottawa, TD Place Stadium Regina, Mosaic Stadium Toronto, Rogers Centre Toronto, BMO Field Vancouver, BC Place Mexico Three stadiums in three markets Guadalajara, Estadio Chivas Mexico City, Estadio Azteca Monterrey, Estadio Rayados It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimalCookie Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 If the US/CA/MX bid does win, then a interesting pattern will have happened - in the last two USA World Cups (94 and 26), an American Summer Olympics will happen two years later (Atlanta in 96, LA in 28) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Magic Dynasty said: If the US/CA/MX bid does win, then a interesting pattern will have happened - in the last two USA World Cups (94 and 26), an American Summer Olympics will happen two years later (Atlanta in 96, LA in 28) Can add Brazil's WC14 and Rio 16 to that list too. Fan Style ShirtsShowcasing fan-made sports apparel by artists and designers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
officeglenn Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Could we see a CAN/MEX/USA World Cup without games in Toronto? Rogers Centre has not aged well, and I don't know how well it could be configured for soccer. And BMO Field isn't big enough — it appears a minimum 40,000-seat stadium is required for group games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer15 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 51 minutes ago, officeglenn said: Could we see a CAN/MEX/USA World Cup without games in Toronto? Rogers Centre has not aged well, and I don't know how well it could be configured for soccer. And BMO Field isn't big enough — it appears a minimum 40,000-seat stadium is required for group games. Currently, yes, that is true about BMO. But the north end of the stadium (which previously had seating but was torn down in the latest remodel to help make the place suitable for the CFL) has enough room to expand/add temporary seating. I'm not worried about Toronto. I believe (without googling this) they almost had 40 thousand with the expanded seating that was added for the Grey Cup last year (and ended up being used for the MLS Cup as well) Montreal on the other hand, I am. Olympic stadium will be 50 years old at that time and who knows what shape it will be in. I understand too that Saputo, due to the fact that it was built originally to be a D2 stadium, is at it's maximum now and expanding it any further is not an option. Unless there's a new stadium tied into some kind of attempt to get baseball back...which is for another thread....I'm really not sure that Montreal is in the running though it absolutely should be. GTA United(USA) 2015 + 2016 USA Champions/Toronto Maroons (ULL)2014, 2015 + 2022 Gait Cup Champions/Toronto Northmen (TNFF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 In 2026, Washington will be have one final year on their lease for FedEx Field and already have chosen Bjarke Ingels Group as architect for their new project (~60,000 seats). Legion Field is not going to be around as Birmingham is ready to finalize a new stadium for UAB and larger events. Open air or dome is question one, capacity is second. Legion Field, Camping World Stadium, and the Rose Bowl each have bleacher seating and currently fail FIFA's "Football Stadiums– Technical Recommendations and Requirements" and basically need a waiver. Bob Kraft is also the Honorary Chair of the Bid Committee, so follow the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 hours ago, dfwabel said: In 2026, Washington will be have one final year on their lease for FedEx Field and already have chosen Bjarke Ingels Group as architect for their new project (~60,000 seats). Legion Field is not going to be around as Birmingham is ready to finalize a new stadium for UAB and larger events. Open air or dome is question one, capacity is second. Legion Field, Camping World Stadium, and the Rose Bowl each have bleacher seating and currently fail FIFA's "Football Stadiums– Technical Recommendations and Requirements" and basically need a waiver. Bob Kraft is also the Honorary Chair of the Bid Committee, so follow the money. Camping World Stadium in Orlando had extensive renovations the past few years and likely fits the bill because they could host and just use the lower levels. Personally, I would love to have Tampa host games, but I don't want to deal with traffic and the crazy crowds. Let Miami or Orlando have the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Whatever they’re calling Dolphins Stadium these days is the best soccer venue this country has — it’s complete with the Euro-style roofs, straight sides, etc. Reminds me of the stadium in Köln so much that has a great atmosphere. lol @ the idea of playing soccer at Heinz Field, that’d be a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi74 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 10 hours ago, crashcarson15 said: Whatever they’re calling Dolphins Stadium these days is the best soccer venue this country has — it’s complete with the Euro-style roofs, straight sides, etc. Reminds me of the stadium in Köln so much that has a great atmosphere. lol @ the idea of playing soccer at Heinz Field, that’d be a disaster Why would Heinz Field be a disaster? The issues with the field don't happen until later in the football season due to the Steelers, Pitt and high school playoffs tearing it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 So if a minimum of 12 sites are to be selected (I'm sticking with US locations for now),we all can likely agree on the locks: Metlife Stadium - NYNJ ATT Stadium - Dallas Rams/Chargers Stadium or Rose Bowl or BOTH - Los Angeles Soldier Field - Chicago After that if I had to pick 8 more I'd go with: Seattle San Francisco (Santa Clara) Miami Philadelphia Washington Phoenix (Glendale) Nashville or Atlanta Kansas City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, AstroBull21 said: So if a minimum of 12 sites are to be selected (I'm sticking with US locations for now),we all can likely agree on the locks: Soldier Field - Chicago I wouldn't call Soldier Field anything near a lock -- it was not part of the failed 2022 bid, passed over in favor of Indianapolis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 37 minutes ago, AstroBull21 said: So if a minimum of 12 sites are to be selected (I'm sticking with US locations for now),we all can likely agree on the locks: Metlife Stadium - NYNJ ATT Stadium - Dallas Rams/Chargers Stadium or Rose Bowl or BOTH - Los Angeles Soldier Field - Chicago After that if I had to pick 8 more I'd go with: Seattle San Francisco (Santa Clara) Miami Philadelphia Washington Phoenix (Glendale) Nashville or Atlanta Kansas City I think the US locks are MetLife, AT&T, the new LA stadium and Lego Stadium (if only for the suite wall). Remaining eight: - Miami (definitely the best-looking soccer/football stadium in the US) - Seattle - Boston - Orlando - Houston - Indianapolis - Chicago - Phoenix I'm obviously most interested in a Seattle location, and would expect it to be paired with Vancouver/Santa Clara for sake of travel expediency. Though I could totally see Atlanta leapfrogging Seattle, and that would be terrible. I don't think we could get away with passing over Dallas, though I wonder if the Mexican component of the bid means we don't need two Texas locations. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 37 minutes ago, crashcarson15 said: I wouldn't call Soldier Field anything near a lock -- it was not part of the failed 2022 bid, passed over in favor of Indianapolis. For the record, Chicago withdrew in December 2009 as the city balked at making financial guarantees that could have cost taxpayers millions on the back of their failed Olympic bid which the taxpayers were also down on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBolt3 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, AstroBull21 said: So if a minimum of 12 sites are to be selected (I'm sticking with US locations for now),we all can likely agree on the locks: Metlife Stadium - NYNJ ATT Stadium - Dallas Rams/Chargers Stadium or Rose Bowl or BOTH - Los Angeles Soldier Field - Chicago After that if I had to pick 8 more I'd go with: Seattle San Francisco (Santa Clara) Miami Philadelphia Washington Phoenix (Glendale) Nashville or Atlanta Kansas City I honestly don't foresee any scenario that Atlanta doesn't get a host spot. New stadium, a market that so far had embraced the game, and home of Coca-Cola, a major World Cup sponsor. Minneapolis is also a hard one to pass up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 3 hours ago, DG_Now said: I think the US locks are MetLife, AT&T, the new LA stadium and Lego Stadium (if only for the suite wall). Remaining eight: - Miami (definitely the best-looking soccer/football stadium in the US) - Seattle - Boston - Orlando - Houston - Indianapolis - Chicago - Phoenix I'm obviously most interested in a Seattle location, and would expect it to be paired with Vancouver/Santa Clara for sake of travel expediency. Though I could totally see Atlanta leapfrogging Seattle, and that would be terrible. I don't think we could get away with passing over Dallas, though I wonder if the Mexican component of the bid means we don't need two Texas locations. I doubt Florida has 2 locations, and Miami would be slotted above Orlando in my books because of the bleachers in the upper deck of the Orlando stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 Bottom line is that everybody received their RFI on Friday, July 21, interested cities replied and the bid committee made their decision to proceed with list above. They all have until September 5 to think up of the tax breaks and incentives to give the bid committee to just place them on a list of cities for FIFA to review. The US/CA/MX bid committee will have their list by the end of September. Whomever is most aggressive may get odd preference outside of locks like NYC, LA and Miami, which also are the top three US cities in terms of international airport passenger arrivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 That makes sense. Atlanta/Miami is better than Orlando/Miami. Atlanta/Orlando/Miami seems like overkill. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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