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The 2017 NBA Playoffs: This Is A Recording

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4 minutes ago, ninersdd said:

They're probably all .1%ers who don't really want to be bothered.

Golden State is probably the case study of sports gentrification, very much like the Bay Area itself, but that's a topic for another day.

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4 minutes ago, crashcarson15 said:

Here’s my thing re: Durant

 

For winning, and maybe for the ability to be the best version of himself as a player, moving to Golden State was absolutely the right move. Instead of only playing with, really, one other guy defenders have to key in on, KD moves somewhere he’s often surrounded by three other guys who are big threats. He’s in a perfect setting to showcase his talent.

 

Yet KD (and his team) also proved jack :censored: by winning this championship. They did what they were supposed to. I like Conrad, and his view is (1) the same as mine and (2) better articulated than I would, so:

 

 

Blame Clay Bennett and Sam Presti for offering James Harden only $56M over four years, which wasn't close to the max, then trading him hours later to not pay the luxury tax and quickly focus on Ibaka and their #3.

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Durant was basically perfect tonight. He held up his end of the bargain.

 

And I strongly disagree with the idea Ewing didn't chase a ring. He embarrassed himself in Seattle and Orlando at the end there.

 

The Warriors broke basketball like the Bay Area broke our economy. How long until the rest of the league realizes they're just driving Ubers so the Warriors can get to dinner?

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When you're the Finals MVP, you weren't "along for the ride"...you were driving the bus.

 

Again, if you dislike Durant taking the easy route while teaming up with other great players, blame the guy on the other team that made it fashionable to form a superteam in free agency.  Durant is merely following LeBron's lead.

 

Free agents have three reasons in picking their team: Money, playing time, and ability to win a championship.  Durant can check off that third reason now.

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4 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

Blame Clay Bennett and Sam Presti for offering James Harden only $56M over four years, which wasn't close to the max, then trading him hours later to not pay the luxury tax and quickly focus on Ibaka and their #3.

And that’s just one of a number of things that helped put the league in this state. If Steph doesn’t have his injury that leads him to getting a lesser deal from the Warriors, they don’t have the cap room. If the owners win out and we get cap smoothing instead, the Warriors don’t have the cap room.

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I think this is what hurts the most because Cleveland had to win this year to keep the project going. The Warriors are set for at least three years as long as someone doesn't blow out a knee or go on a bender at the clubs. Hopefully next year's playoffs are a bit more competitive than this year's was. 

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"Not four, not five, not six, not seven..."

 

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3 minutes ago, HedleyLamarr said:

Again, if you dislike Durant taking the easy route while teaming up with other great players, blame the guy on the other team that made it fashionable to form a superteam in free agency.  Durant is merely following LeBron's lead.

 

You keep reiterating this like it's actually similar at all, but the two situations are nothing alike. I really don't understand why you keep interjecting this false statement.

 

LeBron and his friends created a superteam on a previously non-contending team. Durant joined an organically created championship winning, 73-win team who was 5 points away from being back-to-back champions.

 

There is a massive difference there. 

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20 minutes ago, CS85 said:

 

 

The Bulls lacked the cap space for them to chump out even if they wanted to.

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10 minutes ago, HedleyLamarr said:

Again, if you dislike Durant taking the easy route while teaming up with other great players, blame the guy on the other team that made it fashionable to form a superteam in free agency.  Durant is merely following LeBron's lead.

Eh, I hated The Decision and everything, but this type of false equivalency bothers. LeBron was in Cleveland with a team that had fatal flaws, then moved to Miami to, as you said, “form” a superteam — one that was far from perfect itself.

 

Durant was in OKC with a team that was five games away from an NBA title, then moved to a Golden State team that was already a superteam, one people were calling the greatest team in NBA history just a month earlier. He joined a team that had won 73 games, that had the unanimous MVP, that had won the year before, etc.

 

There are similarities, sure, but we saw why it was foolish to think LeBron would effortlessly walk into championships in Miami. KD walked into a situation where his team would be expected to effortlessly walk into a championship, and largely, they did.

 

Blame the stupid rings culture before you blame any move that was a byproduct of it.

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1 minute ago, Rockstar Matt said:

 

You keep reiterating this like it's actually similar at all, but the two situations are nothing alike. I really don't understand why you keep interjecting this false statement.

 

LeBron and his friends created a superteam on a previously non-contending team. Durant joined an organically created championship winning, 73-win team who was 5 points away from being back-to-back champions.

 

There is a massive difference there. 

 

There is some tremendous comedic irony to the Laker fans of all people casting shade on Durant for doing what he did.

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3 minutes ago, crashcarson15 said:

Eh, I hated The Decision and everything, but this type of false equivalency bothers. LeBron was in Cleveland with a team that had fatal flaws, then moved to Miami to, as you said, “form” a superteam — one that was far from perfect itself.

 

Durant was in OKC with a team that was five games away from an NBA title, then moved to a Golden State team that was already a superteam, one people were calling the greatest team in NBA history just a month earlier. He joined a team that had won 73 games, that had the unanimous MVP, that had won the year before, etc.

 

There are similarities, sure, but we saw why it was foolish to think LeBron would effortlessly walk into championships in Miami. KD walked into a situation where his team would be expected to effortlessly walk into a championship, and largely, they did.

 

Blame the stupid rings culture before you blame any move that was a byproduct of it.

 

I'm not sure the Thunder circa June 2016 can beat LeBron's Cavs in either 2016 or 2017.  For what its worth, Cleveland swept the 15-16 Thunder in the regular season.

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Lol people act like Durant joining the Warriors was such a small move on his part, yet constantly overlook the fact that he STILL had to play like one of the best players in the league for the Warriors to be that dominant. This isn't Austin Rivers or Khris Humphries trying to coat tail to a title, it's one of the best players in the game still having to play like one of the best players in the game.

 

Here's a novel idea. If you really feel so bad about Durant "Cakewalking" to a title, then form a team that can actually beat him. Until then, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Fans had very little if any say in Durant coming to Warriors, it was his choice.  Yeah, he may have mucked up the league in doing so and that's not good, but he was definitely earned the Finals MVP. I understand people's irritation with what he did, I completely get that, as a lifelong Warriors fans (I'm pre-Dubs era) this still feels good.

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Well, every once in a while, Vegeta has to win. Even though you're technically on his side, you often don't want to root for him.

 

Maybe I'm feeling alienated by the post-2015 Warriors, but it doesn't feel nearly as good as the 2015 title did. I'm still happy and all for the victory and the rest of the old cadre of fans, but I still can't overcome the lack of connection. Ah well, it's baseball full-time now.

 

P.S. That .gif is from Team Four Star's Abridged series. Once again, go watch it if you haven't already. It's arguably the best English localization of Dragon Ball Z.

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Congrats to Kevin Durant for finally getting his ring, even if he had to allign himself with his former rivals now turned teammates.

 

He really wanted one.

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16 minutes ago, rams80 said:

 

There is some tremendous comedic irony to the Laker fans of all people casting shade on Durant for doing what he did.

Really because there aren't many superstars that signed for the Lakers while they were contending team like Durant did, come to think of it I don't think anyone has, every star I can think was drafted or traded for and the only free agent they signed was Shaq but that was they were mediocre. I think we have just as much of a right to bitch about KD as a fan of any other team.

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Just now, Bucfan56 said:

If you really feel so bad about Durant "Cakewalking" to a title then here's an idea. Form a team that can actually beat him. Until then, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean, that’s the problem. You can’t put together a team that will, at least on paper, seriously compete with the Warriors, because the rest of the NBA won’t have the luxury of the situation the Warriors had in July.

 

I mean, just think about everything it took for the Warriors to get Durant:

  • Durant, one of the best players in the league, had to be a free agent in the first place.
  • Steph Curry, the unanimous MVP for the previous season, was on a four-year, $44 million deal because he had ankle injuries that caused him to miss most of the 2011-12 season.
  • A new television contract was kicking in, causing a salary cap leap of around $24 million from the 2015-16 season to the 2016-17 campaign.
  • The Warriors had five players on expiring contracts they were able to let go, freeing up cap space.

 

If Durant doesn’t become a free agent during the one summer a move like this would’ve been possible, he can’t go to Golden State. He couldn’t have left in 2015 for the Warriors, and wouldn’t have been able to leave in 2017 if he stayed in Oklahoma City one more year.

 

That’s, I think, the problem a lot of people have with the Warriors winning this title. They found a once-in-a-generation loophole that no other team had and exploited it perfectly, without ever really planning for it to happen. For everything any other NBA team could do right now, there are two that stand a chance of competing with the Warriors next season: Cleveland and San Antonio. And neither of them have a way to get significantly better in the short-term.

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