IceCap 21,978 Posted October 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, DastardlyRidleylash said: Even still, the issue stands; what is the Metropolitan division often shortened to? The Metro Division. It'd be too confusing to have a division named the Metro and a team named the Metros. The Metropolitan Division is a dumb name that was born out of a dumb realignment plan. It's not a natural geographic name (Atlantic would fit better), nor is it a name with a lot of NHL history behind it. So of course the NHL gave preference to the division name over the potential Seattle name with the most history because welcome to the NHL. We do dumb. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charger77 1,767 Posted October 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, DastardlyRidleylash said: Even still, the issue stands; what is the Metropolitan division often shortened to? The Metro Division. It'd be too confusing to have a division named the Metro and a team named the Metros. Any chance the Metro divison gets renamed? Coastal Division? (No more or less stupid than Metropolitan) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceCap 21,978 Posted October 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, charger77 said: Any chance the Metro divison gets renamed? Coastal Division? (No more or less stupid than Metropolitan) They should have called the Metropolitan the Atlantic and the Atlantic the Northeast. Of course they couldn't do that because they had to stick Tampa and Florida in the should-have-been-Northeast for totally natural and not at all contrived reasons. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charger77 1,767 Posted October 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ice_Cap said: They should have called the Metropolitan the Atlantic and the Atlantic the Northeast. Of course they couldn't do that because they had to stick Tampa and Florida in the should-have-been-Northeast for totally natural and not at all contrived reasons. Heck swap Tampa and Florida for Columbus and Carolina and call it a day. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Telemundo219 376 Posted October 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, charger77 said: Heck swap Tampa and Florida for Columbus and Carolina and call it a day. Make it Pittsburgh instead. Then you have a true Northeast (Atlantic) and true Atlantic (Metro) division. NORTHEAST: Boston, Buffalo, Columbus, Detroit, Montreal, Ottawa, Pittsburgh, Toronto ATLANTIC: Carolina, Florida, New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Washington 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chromatic 2,420 Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, jus2damcrazey219 said: Make the Pittsburgh instead. Then you have a true Northeast (Atlantic) and true Atlantic (Metro) division. They’re not going to be removing Pittsburgh from those division rivalries 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Telemundo219 376 Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chromatic said: They’re not going to be removing Pittsburgh from those division rivalries So we're gonna make nonsensical alignment just to perserve rivalries that havent been around for thar long. Wasnt Pittsburgh in the Northeast, historically? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvus 338 Posted October 25, 2019 18 hours ago, Walk-Off said: Just to be clear, as popular choices for nicknames for a Seattle NHL team go, I think that Sockeyes is, at worst, a lesser evil than Kraken. However, I regard Emeralds, Metropolitans, Pilots, and maybe even Evergreens as better choices than either Sockeyes or Kraken. Furthermore, the only genuinely plausible justification that I can see for the team being named the Seattle Kraken is a desire for an association with a menacing creature (even if it is fictional) for the sake of (for lack of a more accurate term) challenging the Canucks' C-shsped orca emblem and the name and logo of the Sharks. With that said, I wonder about the extent to which the people in charge of the Seattle NHL franchise are considering any not-so-obvious inspiration for the team's nickname. For example, have bones or fossils of any predatory animal from the Ice Age ever been found in the ground underneath Seattle? The Nashville Predators' primary logo was inspired a by a saber-toothed cat's skull that was excavated during the construction of a downtown Nashville skyscraper in the 1970s. So, while Nashville has cornered the saber-toothed cat motif in the NHL, have the remains of, say, an American lion (Panthera atrox) ever been extracted from the ground in or near Seattle? If the answer is "yes," then that could give a very different meaning to a "Seattle Sea Lions" identity. So, a little googling reveals that they found a giant sloth skeleton when building Sea-Tac. Also various Mammoth's around the area apparently. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charger77 1,767 Posted October 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, jus2damcrazey219 said: Make it Pittsburgh instead. Then you have a true Northeast (Atlantic) and true Atlantic (Metro) division. NORTHEAST: Boston, Buffalo, Columbus, Detroit, Montreal, Ottawa, Pittsburgh, Toronto ATLANTIC: Carolina, Florida, New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Washington I assume that the NHL would want Pittsburgh in the same division with Washington and Philadelphia, thats why I went with Carolina over them. Geographically, Pittsburgh makes more sense. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC in Da House w/o a Doubt 3,640 Posted October 25, 2019 Safe to assume their identity will include the salmon color that's been all over their twitter feed? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pharos04 1,159 Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, DastardlyRidleylash said: Even still, the issue stands; what is the Metropolitan division often shortened to? The Metro Division. It'd be too confusing to have a division named the Metro and a team named the Metros. This is very true... Except we have the Nationals from the National League East representing the National League in Baseball's biggest stage and no one seems to be too confused about that notion. Not to mention the original Senators in Washington who also went by Nationals happened to play in the American League while the rival National League existed and there was even less access to information back then! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JQK 1,120 Posted October 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, jus2damcrazey219 said: So we're gonna make nonsensical alignment just to perserve rivalries that havent been around for thar long. Wasnt Pittsburgh in the Northeast, historically? Historically, they were in the Patrick with WSH, NYR, NJD, NYI, PHI... so that alignment makes sense. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chromatic 2,420 Posted October 25, 2019 44 minutes ago, jus2damcrazey219 said: Actually cringed. Thanks for including that gif so I don’t need to read your post. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gosioux76 2,195 Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, DastardlyRidleylash said: Even still, the issue stands; what is the Metropolitan division often shortened to? The Metro Division. It'd be too confusing to have a division named the Metro and a team named the Metros. I fail to see how humans in 2019 would be confused by this at all. "You mean, we're just playing the team from Seattle? Not a whole division?" Somehow the Washington Nationals can exist in the National League without anyone thinking they're playing the NL all-star team. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC in Da House w/o a Doubt 3,640 Posted October 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, gosioux76 said: I fail to see how humans in 2019 would be confused by this at all. "You mean, we're just playing the team from Seattle? Not a whole division?" Somehow the Washington Nationals can exist in the National League without anyone thinking they're playing the NL all-star team. Furthermore -- National Car Rental is a sponsor at Nationals Park, home of the National League Champion Washington Nationals who play the national pastime in the nation's capital 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Survival79 2,065 Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, DC in Da House w/o a Doubt said: Safe to assume their identity will include the salmon color that's been all over their twitter feed? They use it on their sweater, so I would think so. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC in Da House w/o a Doubt 3,640 Posted October 25, 2019 Could be interesting. Definitely would be unique, I'd give them that. Also would feel very "Seattle" without necessarily having to use lime green or teal. I would guess the name would be fish related too then. Maybe Sockeyes like people have been saying. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayMac 3,669 Posted October 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, DC in Da House w/o a Doubt said: Could be interesting. Definitely would be unique, I'd give them that. Also would feel very "Seattle" without necessarily having to use lime green or teal. I would guess the name would be fish related too then. Maybe Sockeyes like people have been saying. They could use teal or some kind of green as a secondary color to put a new spin on the old Metropolitans red and green color combo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QCS 2,343 Posted October 25, 2019 2 hours ago, DC in Da House w/o a Doubt said: Safe to assume their identity will include the salmon color that's been all over their twitter feed? I looked over the site, and the largest percentage of fans preferred a "mythical creature" and "something that swims" which means all signs point towards Kraken. Maybe Seattle will be the kind of team where the name sucks but at least the colors are good, like the Wild. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ridleylash 3,777 Posted October 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, QueenCitySwarm said: I looked over the site, and the largest percentage of fans preferred a "mythical creature" and "something that swims" which means all signs point towards Kraken. Maybe Seattle will be the kind of team where the name sucks but at least the colors are good, like the Wild. Fan votes don't always end up as the final name; as I recall, Nashville's fan vote winner was something like "Ice Tigers" or "Attack". And didn't one of the owners already basically say "Kraken" was out of the running, anyways? I doubt much has changed since then and now. Plus, didn't they say they were going for a Native theme to their logo? The Natives of Washington didn't really have a kraken at all, that's a European invention. That, and the color scheme really doesn't suit a "Kraken" identity at all; what ties do the colors have to do with kraken? If they were going "Kraken", you'd think they'd go for darker shades of red, like a burgundy or something, not bright salmon. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites