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I've maintained that Phoenix as an expansion planned well in advance would have been good-not-great, like Dallas. The relocation from Winnipeg set off a chain reaction of bad decisions that no franchise could recover from.

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13 hours ago, the admiral said:

 

I didn't like this line of thinking when the Rangers pissypantsed their way into making the Astros change leagues and I don't like it here. Montreal was a National League town and an affiliate of a National League town. Given that Bell would almost have to own the team, this would have the American League on Sportsnet and the National League on TSN, a fair split. The Blue Jays shouldn't need Montreal to draw or they have big problems.

The Blue Jays may not need Montreal, but Montreal would definitely need the Blue Jays.

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Then they'd have big problems too! Why do you want the NL frozen out of Texas and Canada?

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Yet another NHL alignment...

 

SMYTHE

Calgary Flames

Edmonton Oilers

Los Angeles Kings

Portland Buckaroos

Colorado Rockies

San Jose Sharks

Seattle Totems

Vancouver Canucks

 

NORRIS
Chicago Blackhawks

Detroit Red Wings

Houston Aeros

Kansas City Scouts

Milwaukee Admirals

Minnesota North Stars

St Louis Blues

Winnipeg Jets


ADAMS
Boston Bruins

Buffalo Sabres

Cleveland Barons

Montreal Canadiens

New England Whalers

Ottawa Senators

Quebec Nordiques

Toronto Maple Leafs


PATRICK

Charlotte Checkers

NY Islanders

NY Rangers

Mighty Ducks of Orlando

Philadelphia Flyers

Pittsburgh Penguins

Tampa Bay Lightning

Washington Capitals

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11 hours ago, Magic Dynasty said:

The Blue Jays may not need Montreal, but Montreal would definitely need the Blue Jays.

 

If a team needs an archrival counterpart just to be financially viable, that team should not exist in the first place.

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11 hours ago, kroywen said:

 

If a team needs an archrival counterpart just to be financially viable, that team should not exist in the first place.

Exactly. I don’t want Montreal in the league (especially if they come at the expense of my Rays), but realistically if they came back they would need Toronto in order to survive.

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POD: Bob Howsam buys the Chicago Cardinals from Violet Bidwill and moves them to Denver...

 

NFL
East

Baltimore Colts

Cleveland Browns

New York Giants

Philadelphia Eagles

Pittsburgh Steelers

Washington Redskins

 

West

Chicago Bears

Denver Broncos

Detroit Lions

Green Bay Packers

Los Angeles Rams

San Francisco 49ers

 

Shortlist of owners for AFL or NFL expansion:

Harry Wismer (New York)

Barron Hilton (Los Angeles)

John Mecom or David Dixon (New Orleans)

Harry Glickman (Portland)

Lamar Hunt or Clint Murchison (Dallas)

Bud Adams (Houston)

Max Winter (Minneapolis/St Paul)

Seymour Knox III (Buffalo)

Billy Sullivan (Boston)

August A Busch Jr (St Louis)

Ewing Kauffman (Kansas City)

Lloyd Nordstrom (Seattle)

Rankin Smith (Atlanta)

John Bassett

Ralph Wilson

Art Modell

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North American Association of Collegiate Athletics (Basically a competitor to the NCAA). 20 teams qualify for the Football championship playoffs. Divided into 4 tiers. Here is tier 1. Tiers 2,3 and 4 coming soon.

  • Tier I
    • Northeastern Athletic Conference (NAC)
      • North Division
        • Boston State Bees and Queen Bees
        • Halifax Catholic Crusaders
        • Maine-Wells Lobsters
        • Moncton Acadiens
        • Montréal Catholique Diables Bleus
        • Presque Isle Lumberjacks and Lumberjills
        • Portland Maineiacs
        • Toronto-Canadian Redcoats
      • South Division
        • Cape Cod Beacons
        • CUNY-Chelsea Pride
        • Greenwich Bulldogs
        • Massachusetts A&M Pilgrims
        • New Jersey State Diablos
        • Poughkeepsie Panthers
        • Rhode Island-Providence Pirates
        • Stamford Stallions
    • Mid-Atlantic 12 (MA12)
      • Colonial Division
        • Annapolis Seahawks
        • Baltimore State Seagulls
        • District of Columbia U Patriots
        • Hagerstown State Panthers
        • Hampton Roads Tritons
        • West Philadelphia Fresh Princes and Fresh Princesses
      • Patriot Division
        • Brick (NJ) Layers
        • Cherry Hill Cherry Falcons
        • Lancaster State Fighting Amish
        • Lower Merion Black Mambas
        • Pittsburgh State Keystones
        • Richmond Baptist Missionaries
    • Great Lakes Conference
      • Appleton Fighting Ojibwas
      • Buffalo A&M Rhinos
      • Cleveland Bulldogs
      • Detroit Baptist Cougars
      • East St. Louis Red Tails
      • Flint State Phoenix
      • Illinois-Rockford Vikings and Viqueens
      • Milwaukee Tech Bavarians
      • Mother Teresa Eagles (Sterling Heights, MI)
      • Ontario-Niagara Falls Lakers
      • SUNY-Niagara Falls Rainbows
      • Thunder Bay Lightning
      • Toronto Catholique Canadiens and Candiennes
      • Wrigleyville Grizzlies
    • Great USA Conference
      • Yankee Division
        • Allegheny Argonauts (Pittsburgh, PA)
        • Boston Tech Dragons
        • Canton (OH) Chariots
        • Chicago South Wolves (Tinley Park, IL)
        • Marion Tritons (Indianapolis, IN)
        • Montreal St. George's
        • Philadelphia Tech Pheasants
        • Troy (MI) Falcons
      • Dixie Division
        • Atlanta Catholic Celts
        • Charleston (SC) Gullahs
        • Duval Seahawks (Jacksonville Beach, FL)
        • Kentucky-Mountain Pumas (Ashland, KY)
        • Knoxville Christian Bandits
        • Maryville (TN) 49ers
        • NC State-Charlotte [NCSUC] Coyotes
        • Rome (GA) Romans
    • Lower Midwest Conference (LMC)
      • Covington (KY) Colonels
      • Ferguson (MO) Falcons
      • Indy State Racers
      • Jefferson City Cardinals
      • Missouri-Springfield Mountaineers
      • Ohio State-Cincinnati Buckeyes
      • Peoria Wildcats
      • Southern Ohio Mountaineers (Portsmouth, OH)
      • Springfield (OH) Blue Jays
      • Terre Haute Warriors
    • Plains-12 Conference (P12)
      • Calgary Cowboys and Cowgirls
      • Dallas Indian Caddos
      • Des Moines Lutheran Thunder
      • KU-Kansas City Jayhawks
      • Lincoln (NE) Bruins
      • Minnesota-Minnetonka Sioux
      • Omaha Bison
      • Regina Cowboys
      • Topeka Titans
      • Tulsa State Rangers and Rangerettes
      • Wichita Baptist Tigers
      • Winnipeg Wings
    • Majestic Mountain Conference
      • Abbotsford Bible Royals
      • Arizona Northeastern Navajos (Show Low, AZ)
      • Aspen (CO) Polar Bears
      • Colorado South Wildcats (Cañon City, CO)
      • Denver State Arapahos
      • Glendale (AZ) Gladiators
      • Northern Utah Norse (Provo, UT)
      • Phoenix Lutheran Cowboys
      • Reno State Diamondbacks
      • Santa Fe Rangers
      • Salt Lake Hornets
      • Sacramento Baptist Eagles
      • Taos (NM) Titans
      • Whitefish (MT) Lakers
    • Southeastern Athletic Conference
      • Florida-Fort Lauderdale Seagulls
      • Florida-Miami Tocororos
      • Florida-Orlando Invaders
      • Georgia-Atlanta Phoenix
      • Macon Griffins
      • Miami Christian Seals
      • Mississippi-Jackson Red Raiders
      • Mobile State Panthers
      • Savannah Catholic Leprechauns
      • Tampa Christian Crusaders
      • Tennessee-Memphis Pharaohs
      • Tennessee-Nashville Spartans
    • Big South West (BSW)
      • Albuquerque Road Runners
      • Colorado International Scots (Estes Park, CO)
      • Dallas State Broncos
      • OKC A&M Aggies
      • Phillips Oilers (Bartlesville, OK)
      • Pittman Miners (Odessa, TX)
      • Round Rock Raptors
      • Texas-Fort Worth Arsenal
      • Texas-Houston Rattlesnakes
      • Texas-Palestine Caliphates
      • Texas-Texarkana Bison
      • Texas-Trans Pecos Outlaws
    • Wild West Conference (WWC)
      • Mountain Division
        • Chico Vaqueros
        • Edmonton North Timberwolves
        • Idaho Tech Mountaineers (Boise, ID)
        • Juneau Fighting Eskimos
        • Northern Montana Northmen (Kalispell, MT)
        • Notre Dame-Las Vegas Devils
        • Oregon Wesleyan Flames
        • Seattle-Eastern Big Red
        • Spokane Sequoias
        • Vancouver Victorians (Vancouver, BC)
      • Coastal Division
        • Los Angeles State Angels
        • Oregon-Portland Mallards
        • San Diego International Blue Waves
        • San Francisco Lutheran Gray Wolves
        • SeaTac Royals
        • Seattle Catholic Reindeers
        • Tacoma Tigers
        • UC-Compton Knights
        • UC-Oakland Oaks
        • USC-East Trojans (East Los Angeles, CA)
    • Independents
      • BYU-Phoenix Cougars
      • Connecticut Tech Colonials (Hartford, CT)
      • Holy Trinity Saints (Monroe, LA)
      • Empire Evangelical Royal Bears (Poughkeepsie, NY)
      • Kailua Honeycreepers (Kailua, Hawaii)
      • St. Andrew's Scots (Chicago, IL)
      • St. David's Welsh (Chicago, IL)
      • St. Patrick's Irish (Chicago, IL)

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A somewhat alternate NHL timeline:

 

1991: San Jose (expansion)

 

1992: Tampa Bay (expansion)

 

1993: Anaheim (expansion) & Dallas (relocation from Minnesota)

 

1995: Colorado (relocation from Quebec)

 

1996: Houston (relocation from Winnipeg)

 

1997: Nashville (relocation from Hartford)

 

2000: Columbus (expansion) & Minnesota (expansion)

 

2012: Winnipeg (expansion)

 

2015: Quebec (expansion)

 

 

Eastern Conference

Atlantic: New Jersey, N.Y. Islanders, N.Y. Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, Washington 

Northeast: Boston, Buffalo, Columbus, Detroit, Montreal, Quebec, Toronto

 

Western Conference

Central: Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Minnesota, Nashville, St. Louis, Winnipeg

Pacific: Anaheim, Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Vancouver

 

 

 

 

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NHL in the not too distant future...

 

SMYTHE:

Anaheim

Calgary
Edmonton

LA Kings

San Jose

Seattle

Vegas

Vancouver

 

NORRIS:
Arizona

Chicago

Colorado
Dallas

Minnesota

Nashville

St Louis
Winnipeg

 

ADAMS
Boston

Buffalo

Detroit

Florida

Montreal

Ottawa

Tampa Bay

Toronto

 

PATRICK
Carolina
Columbus

New Jersey

NY Islanders

NY Rangers

Philadelphia

Pittsburgh

Washington

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My Proposal for an NFL-CFL Joint Triple-A League

 

AFC East: Rochester Bulls (Buffalo), Fort Lauderdale (Miami), Hartford Colonials (New England), Long Island Pilots (NY Jets)
AFC North: Norfolk Destroyers (Baltimore), Columbus Tigers (Cincinnati), Canton Bulldogs (Cleveland), West Virginia Ironmen (PIttsburgh)
AFC South: Austin Lone Stars (Houston), Louisville Thoroughbreds (Indianapolis), Savannah Aviators (Jacksonville), Memphis Southmen (Tennessee)
AFC West: Colorado Springs Peaks (Denver), Omaha Scarecrows (Kansas City), Bakersfield Bombers (Los Angeles), Reno Gamblers (Las Vegas)
AFC Canadian: Niagara Falls Wildcats (Hamilton), Quebec City Monarchs (Montreal), London Lords (Ottawa), Sudbury Spartans (Toronto), St. John's Atlantics (Halifax)

 

NFC East: San Antonio Gunslingers (Dallas), New Jersey Generals (NY GIants), Lehigh Valley Ironmen (Philadelphia), Richmond Virginians (Washington)
NFC North: Iowa Barnstormers (Chicago), Toledo Tigers (Detroit), Milwaukee Butchers (Green Bay), St. Paul Norsemen (Minnesota)
NFC South: Birmingham Vulcans (Atlanta), Raleigh-Durham Skyhawks (Charlotte), Baton Rouge Cajuns (New Orleans), Orlando Blazers (Tampa Bay)
NFC West: Tucson Scorpions (Arizona), Long Beach Breakers (LA Rams), Sacramento Condors (San Francisco), Portland Lumberjacks (Seattle)
NFC Canadian: Anchorage Polars (British Columbia), Boise Steelheads (Calgary), Idaho Falls Idahoans (Edmonton), Saskatoon Stallions (Saskatchwan), Fargo Flyers (Winnipeg)

 

Thoughts, Please Post if you want changes.

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Well, if we're talking about NFL minor leagues... here's mine.

 

EASTERN CONFERENCE

 

Northeast Division

-Charleston, WV (PIT)

-Columbus, OH (CLE)

-Grand Rapids, MI (CHI)

-Hartford, CT (NYG)

-London, ON (DET)

-Manchester, NH (NE)

-Providence, RI (NYJ)

-Rochester, NY (BUF)

 

Southern Division

-Birmingham, AL (ATL)

-Charleston, SC (CAR)

-Little Rock, AR (TB)

-Louisville, KY (CIN)

-Memphis, TN (TEN)

-Orlando, FL (MIA)

-Richmond, VA (WAS)

-San Antonio, TX (HOU)

 

WESTERN CONFERENCE

 

Central Division

-Albuquerque, NM (DEN)

-Des Moines, IA (MIN)

-El Paso, TX (NO)

-Milwaukee, WI (GB)

-Oklahoma City, OK (DAL)

-Omaha, NE (JAX)

-St. Louis, MO (PHI)

-Wichita, KS (KC)

 

Pacific Division

-Boise, ID (IND)

-Portland, OR (LAR)

-Reno, NV (OAK/LV)

-Sacramento, CA (SF)

-Salt Lake City, UT (BAL)

-San Diego, CA (LAC)

-Spokane, WA (SEA)

-Tucson, AZ (ARI)

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BY 2028
 


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EAST

 

Northeast

  • Boston Celtics 
  • Brooklyn Nets 
  • Chicago Bulls
  • Cleveland Cavaliers  
  • Detroit Pistons 
  • Milwaukee Bucks 
  • New York Knicks  
  • Toronto Raptors 

 

Southeast

  • Atlanta Hawks 
  • Charlotte Hornets 
  • Indiana Pacers
  • Memphis Grizzlies  
  • Miami Heat 
  • Orlando Magic 
  • Philadelphia 76ers
  • Washington Federals 

 

 

WEST

 

Central

  • Dallas Mavericks 
  • Denver Nuggets 
  • Houston Rockets
  • Kansas City Diesels  (expansion, 2022)
  • Louisiana Pelicans 
  • Minnesota Timberwolves 
  • Sacramento Kings
  • San Antonio Spurs 

 

Pacific

  • Golden State Warriors
  • L.A. Clippers 
  • L.A. Lakers
  • Portland Trail Blazers 
  • Phoenix Suns
  • Sacramento Kings 
  • Seattle SuperSonics  (expansion, 2022)
  • Utah Jazz

 

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BY 2028
 

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American

 

North

  • Chicago White Sox 
  • Cleveland Indians 
  • Detroit Tigers 
  • Minnesota Twins   

East

  • Baltimore Orioles 
  • Boston Red Sox 
  • New York Yankees 
  • Toronto Blue Jays

South

  • Carolina Cougars  (expansion, 2025)
  • Kansas City Royals 
  • Tampa Bay Rays
  • Texas Rangers  

West

  • L.A. Angels 
  • Oakland Athletics  
  • San Diego Padres 
  • Seattle Mariners  

 

 

National

 

North

  • Chicago Cubs 
  • Cincinnati Reds 
  • Milwaukee Brewers 
  • St. Louis Cardinals  

East

  • Montreal Expos  (expansion, 2025)
  • New York Mets 
  • Philadelphia Phillies 
  • Pittsburgh Pirates  

South

  • Atlanta Braves
  • Houston Astros 
  • Miami Marlins 
  • Washington Nationals  

West

  • Arizona Diamondbacks  
  • Colorado Rockies  
  • L.A. Dodgers 
  • San Francisco Giants   

 

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BY 2028
 

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Eastern

 

Metro

  • Montreal Impact  
  • New England Revolution 
  • New York Red Bulls 
  • NYCFC
  • Philadelphia Union 

Midwest

  • Chicago Fire  
  • FC Cincinnati 
  • Columbus Crew SC 
  • Indy Eleven  
  • Toronto FC

South

  • Atlanta United  
  • D.C. United 
  • CF Miami 
  • Nashville SC
  • Orlando City SC  

 

Western

 

Central

  • FC Dallas  
  • Houston Dynamo 
  • MNUFC
  • San Antonio Scorpions FC  
  • Sporting K.C. 

Mountain

  • Colorado Rapids 
  • L.A. Galaxy 
  • LAFC 
  • Phoenix Rising FC  
  • RSL

Northwest

  • Portland Timbers   
  • Sacramento Republic FC
  • San Jose Earthquakes 
  • Seattle Sounders FC 
  • Vancouver Whitecaps FC 

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BY 2028

 

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  • Atlanta United 2
  • Bethlehem Steel FC
  • Birmingham Legion FC
  • Charleston Battery    
  • Charlotte Independence
  • Chicago '71
  • Fort Lauderdale Strikers
  • Fort Worth Vaqueros 
  • Louisville City FC
  • Memphis Pharaohs 
  • New York Red Bulls II
  • North Carolina FC
  • Ottawa Fury FC 
  • Penn FC
  • Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC
  • Richmond Kickers
  • Tampa Bay Rowdies
  • TFC II

 

 

 

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  • Austin PSV
  • Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC
  • El Paso Sol FC
  • Fresno FC
  • LA Galaxy II   
  • Las Vegas Lights FC
  • Oakland East Bay SC
  • OKC Energy FC
  • Orange County SC
  • Portland Timbers 2
  • Real Monarchs 
  • Reno 1868 FC
  • RGV FC Toros
  • San Diego 1904
  • St. Louis FC
  • Seattle Sounders FC 2
  • Swope Park Rangers
  • Tulsa Roughnecks FC

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NEW YORK -- In a bizarre series of events today, Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred unexpectedly resigned from office, citing his plans to pursue his lifelong fantasy of becoming the first man to be chosen for the 2019 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Cover.

 

This bombshell would be followed by the announcement of an interim Commissioner, MactheKnife, who upon introduction announced that the owners had agreed to explode the number of Major League teams beginning with the 2020 season, to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the 1871 founding of the National Association.  The plan put forth takes the existing 115 year rivalry between the American and National Leagues and adds two new players to the mix, in the form of the Federal and International Leagues.

 

AMERICAN LEAGUE

Northern - Chicago White Sox, Detroit, Minnesota, Toronto

Southern - Baltimore, Tampa Bay, Kansas City, 

Eastern - Boston, New York Yankees, Indianapolis

Western - California, Seattle, Oakland, Albuqerque

 

NATIONAL LEAGUE

Northern - Chicago Cubs, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus

Southern - Atlanta, Houston, St. Louis, Norfolk, New Orleans

Eastern - New York Mets, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Buffalo

Western - Los Angeles, Colorado, San Diego, San Francisco

 

FEDERAL LEAGUE

Northern - X

Southern - Charlotte, Durham, Memphis, Nashville

Eastern - X

Western - Arizona, Reno, Fresno, Sacramento

 

INTERNATIONAL LEAGUE

Northern - Montreal Expos, Washington Nationals

Southern - Florida Marlins

Eastern - Louisville, Toledo

Western - Oklahoma City, El Paso, Portland, Las Vegas

 

Any suggestions for filling out the Federal League?

 

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20 hours ago, Mac the Knife said:

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NEW YORK -- In a bizarre series of events today, Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred unexpectedly resigned from office, citing his plans to pursue his lifelong fantasy of becoming the first man to be chosen for the 2019 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Cover.

 

This bombshell would be followed by the announcement of an interim Commissioner, MactheKnife, who upon introduction announced that the owners had agreed to explode the number of Major League teams beginning with the 2020 season, to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the 1871 founding of the National Association.  The plan put forth takes the existing 115 year rivalry between the American and National Leagues and adds two new players to the mix, in the form of the Federal and International Leagues.

 

AMERICAN LEAGUE

Northern - Chicago White Sox, Detroit, Minnesota, Toronto

Southern - Baltimore, Tampa Bay, Kansas City, 

Eastern - Boston, New York Yankees, Indianapolis

Western - California, Seattle, Oakland, Albuqerque

 

NATIONAL LEAGUE

Northern - Chicago Cubs, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus

Southern - Atlanta, Houston, St. Louis, Norfolk, New Orleans

Eastern - New York Mets, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Buffalo

Western - Los Angeles, Colorado, San Diego, San Francisco

 

FEDERAL LEAGUE

Northern - X

Southern - Charlotte, Durham, Memphis, Nashville

Eastern - X

Western - Arizona, Reno, Fresno, Sacramento

 

INTERNATIONAL LEAGUE

Northern - Montreal Expos, Washington Nationals

Southern - Florida Marlins

Eastern - Louisville, Toledo

Western - Oklahoma City, El Paso, Portland, Las Vegas

 

Any suggestions for filling out the Federal League?

 

Ah, but but no, it's too stupid.

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