DNAsports 3,874 Posted April 15, 2019 3 hours ago, ltp74 said: Why are the Pirates and Montreal in the Central and the Reds in the East? As much as I hate that the Pirates are currently in the Central and Atlanta is in the East, in the scenario above the new Montreal team should definitely be in the East. There are no Central Divisions in this scenario. To answer your question, I simply based it off the fact that even though Pittsburgh may be more east than Cincinnati, it’s still more northern. I also wanted to keep Pittsburgh and Philadelphia in separate divisions just how they are now. I definitely found the NL realignment more difficult than the AL. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltp74 157 Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, DNAsports said: There are no Central Divisions in this scenario. To answer your question, I simply based it off the fact that even though Pittsburgh may be more east than Cincinnati, it’s still more northern. I also wanted to keep Pittsburgh and Philadelphia in separate divisions just how they are now. I definitely found the NL realignment more difficult than the AL. Why have Pittsburgh and Philly in separate divisions? Back in the day it was one of the fiercest rivalries in baseball and if they ever were in a race for the division crown it would instantly heat up again. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DNAsports 3,874 Posted April 15, 2019 6 hours ago, ltp74 said: Why have Pittsburgh and Philly in separate divisions? Back in the day it was one of the fiercest rivalries in baseball and if they ever were in a race for the division crown it would instantly heat up again. So from what I’m gathering, the NL should look like this: North- Chicago Cubs Cincinnati Reds Milwaukee Brewers New York Mets East- Montreal MLB Team Pittsburgh Pirates Philadelphia Phillies Washington Nationals South- Atlanta Braves Colorado Rockies Miami Marlins St. Louis Cardinals West- Arizona Diamondbacks Los Angeles Dodgers San Diego Padres San Francisco Giants 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferdinand Cesarano 4,393 Posted April 16, 2019 Here we imagine a scenario in which the three biggest leagues of arena/indoor football, the AFL, the IFL, and the NAL, merge into one grand reconstituted Arena Football League. ATLANTIC CONFERENCE CONTINENTAL CONFERENCE NORTHEAST MID-ATLANTIC SOUTHEAST NORTH CENTRAL WEST Albany Empire AC Blackjacks Carolina Cobras Bismarck Bucks Columbus Destroyers Arizona Rattlers Massachusetts Pirates Baltimore Brigade Columbus Lions Green Bay Blizzard CR River Kings SD Strike Force New York Streets Philadelphia Soul Jacksonville Sharks QC Steamwheelers Iowa Barnstormers Tucson Sugar Skulls Washington Valor Orlando Predators Sioux Falls Storm Nebraska Danger Schedule: no inter-conference play three-team divisions: 3 games vs. each divisional rival; 1 game vs. 6 non-divisional teams = 12 four-team divisions: 2 games vs. each divisional rival; 1 game vs. 6 non-divisional teams = 12 playoffs: divisional champs plus one wildcard from each conference 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltp74 157 Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, DNAsports said: So from what I’m gathering, the NL should look like this: North- Chicago Cubs Cincinnati Reds Milwaukee Brewers New York Mets East- Montreal MLB Team Pittsburgh Pirates Philadelphia Phillies Washington Nationals South- Atlanta Braves Colorado Rockies Miami Marlins St. Louis Cardinals West- Arizona Diamondbacks Los Angeles Dodgers San Diego Padres San Francisco Giants If it was my decision not much would change from the current setup. The only way North and South divisions wouldn’t be a killer time zone wise(Denver is two time zones from half their division) is if the NL and AL were radically altered or done away with. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DNAsports 3,874 Posted April 16, 2019 8 hours ago, ltp74 said: If it was my decision not much would change from the current setup. The only way North and South divisions wouldn’t be a killer time zone wise(Denver is two time zones from half their division) is if the NL and AL were radically altered or done away with. I don’t think MLB will do away with AL and NL. The most drastic thing I could see happening is we get an AL East & West and an NL East & West all with 8 teams in each division 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBGKon 2,457 Posted April 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, DNAsports said: I don’t think MLB will do away with AL and NL. The most drastic thing I could see happening is we get an AL East & West and an NL East & West all with 8 teams in each division Agreed if MLB goes to 32, the ideal situation is 4 divisions of 8. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackieMoon 326 Posted April 16, 2019 I think every North American sport should follow suit with the MLS. Do away with divisions and just have conferences. MLB An AL and NL "conference" only after two more teams are added to have 16+16. Do away with the dumb interleague play. NFL An AFC and NFC Conference. 16+16, each team plays every other team in conference once and three more games as the old rivalries. 18 games over 19 weeks, taking away two preseason games. Top 6 from each make playoffs. NHL Eastern and Western Conference at 16+16. Simple top 8 in each go to playoffs. Switch to a simple W-L format getting rid of the points system. CFL Put all 10 teams in one division when Halifax is added. Play each team home and home, simple 18 game schedule. Top 6 make playoffs. NBA East and West Conference. Top 8 from each make playoffs. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joke Insurance 18 Posted June 6, 2019 On 4/15/2019 at 8:13 PM, Ferdinand Cesarano said: Here we imagine a scenario in which the three biggest leagues of arena/indoor football, the AFL, the IFL, and the NAL, merge into one grand reconstituted Arena Football League. ATLANTIC CONFERENCE CONTINENTAL CONFERENCE NORTHEAST MID-ATLANTIC SOUTHEAST NORTH CENTRAL WEST Albany Empire AC Blackjacks Carolina Cobras Bismarck Bucks Columbus Destroyers Arizona Rattlers Massachusetts Pirates Baltimore Brigade Columbus Lions Green Bay Blizzard CR River Kings SD Strike Force New York Streets Philadelphia Soul Jacksonville Sharks QC Steamwheelers Iowa Barnstormers Tucson Sugar Skulls Washington Valor Orlando Predators Sioux Falls Storm Nebraska Danger For filling in the two gaps for the NE and the West, could you see teams in either Hartford, Bridgeport, Providence, Quebec City, London, or Halifax for the NE Division? And Reno, Spokane, Fresno, Portland, Boise, or SLC for the West Division? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferdinand Cesarano 4,393 Posted June 7, 2019 23 hours ago, Joke Insurance said: For filling in the two gaps for the NE and the West, could you see teams in either Hartford, Bridgeport, Providence, Quebec City, London, or Halifax for the NE Division? And Reno, Spokane, Fresno, Portland, Boise, or SLC for the West Division? Hartford has been tried twice, the second time when the bums over at MSG moved my beloved New York CityHawks of the AFL (see logo in my sig) to the Civic Center in 1999. It was tough for the re-named New England Sea Wolves to attract any attention in the prolonged gloom that still affected the area only a couple of years after move of the Whalers. The Sea Wolves played two seasons in Hartford before moving to Toronto and becoming the Phantoms. But that was in the era when the AFL was in every major city; at that time Hartford stood out as especially small. In this fantasy AFL, we have plenty of cities smaller than Hartford; and the majority of the arenas in our fantasy AFL have no NHL teams. A couple of decades after the Whalers' move, perhaps an AFL team could work in the Civic Center. Still, the AHL's Hartford Wolf Pack play there to attendance that is well below the league average. So maybe Bridgeport is a marginally better choice, as that town's AHL team draws a little better, and there is no record of the AFL already having flopped there. As far as the west is concerned, Boise and Reno already have teams in the new 4-team indoor league called the America West Football Conference. The Boise-area team, the Idaho Horsemen, are currently undefeated after eight games. So let's give them the spot in the Western Division of the fantasy AFL. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringBackTheVet 16,661 Posted July 8, 2019 On 4/15/2019 at 7:54 PM, DNAsports said: So from what I’m gathering, the NL should look like this: North- Chicago Cubs Cincinnati Reds Milwaukee Brewers New York Mets East- Montreal MLB Team Pittsburgh Pirates Philadelphia Phillies Washington Nationals Splitting up Phila / NYM, and Cubs/StL is a bad plan. Phillies and Pirates don’t need to be in the same division. I don’t think a NSEW alignment works well, but if you insist, then move PGH to N, NYM to E, CIN to S, and STL to N. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schlim 476 Posted July 15, 2019 Here's a very interesting article about the original realignment in Major League Baseball. It's funny to see the concerns and what upset teams back when it was happening. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
texashockeyfan 17 Posted July 16, 2019 Whose idea was it to put the Indianapolis Colts in the AFC South? Indy is nowhere near the southern US. Cincinnati Bengals would have been a better fit, because they're on the border with Kentucky. Or Miami, but I guess they don't want two Florida teams in the same division. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltp74 157 Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, texashockeyfan said: Whose idea was it to put the Indianapolis Colts in the AFC South? Indy is nowhere near the southern US. Cincinnati Bengals would have been a better fit, because they're on the border with Kentucky. Or Miami, but I guess they don't want two Florida teams in the same division. Everyone involved wanted to keep the Bengals, Steelers, New Browns and Old Browns together due to their longstanding rivalries. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
insert name 4,648 Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/15/2019 at 5:44 PM, schlim said: Here's a very interesting article about the original realignment in Major League Baseball. It's funny to see the concerns and what upset teams back when it was happening. God, I can't imagine NEW YORK being part of the WEST. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferdinand Cesarano 4,393 Posted July 17, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 7:42 PM, insert name said: God, I can't imagine NEW YORK being part of the WEST. It wouldn't have been the West; the Mets wanted a divisional alignment that was based on something other than geography. The National League's hesitancy to adopt divisions was admirable, but misplaced. What should have been as obvious to that league's owners as it was to the American League's owners is that nothing about the feel of the season would change as long as only the first-place teams could advance; the magic of the traditional pennant race would endure. It's too bad we had none of this skepticism when the owners brought in the three-division alignment and the wild card, which really did kill the pennant race. Anyway, the team that got the worst deal was the White Sox, who were rightfully angry at being grouped with the Angels, Royals, and Pilots, instead of with their peers the Yankees, Red Sox, and Tigers. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schlim 476 Posted July 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: Anyway, the team that got the worst deal was the White Sox, who were rightfully angry at being grouped with the Angels, Royals, and Pilots, instead of with their peers the Yankees, Red Sox, and Tigers. I had never really thought about why the White Sox are such a bland team before, but being split from those teams damaged their club a ton. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simtek34 1,589 Posted July 18, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 10:40 AM, texashockeyfan said: Whose idea was it to put the Indianapolis Colts in the AFC South? Indy is nowhere near the southern US. Cincinnati Bengals would have been a better fit, because they're on the border with Kentucky. Or Miami, but I guess they don't want two Florida teams in the same division. Part of the “New Browns” deal stayed that the Browns, Steelers, and Bengals are legally required to always be in the same division. It would have been smarter to put the Dolphins down south, but rivalries are more important than Geography in the NFL, but that had no legal stuff involved. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simtek34 1,589 Posted July 18, 2019 My first re-alignment post. This is for the NBA. Eastern Conference: Central Division: Minnesota Timberwolves Milwaukee Bucks Chicago Bulls Detroit Pistons Cleveland Cavaliers Indiana Pacers Toronto Raptors Washington Wizards Atlantic Division: Boston Celtics New York Knicks New Jersey Nets Philadelphia 76ers Charlotte Hornets Orlando Magic Miami Heat Atlanta Hawks Western Conference: Midwest Division: Oklahoma City Thunder Houston Rockets San Antonio Spurs Kansas City Kings Dallas Mavericks Memphis Grizzlies New Orleans Pelicans Pacific Division: Golden State Warriors Seattle Supersonics Portland Trailblazers San Diego Clippers Los Angeles Lakers Phoenix Suns Vancouver Beavers Utah Jazz I went back to 2 Divisions per Conference, and that also includes League Expansion. With the Key Arena Renovations and hype of NHL 2020, and Adam Silver wanting the return of Basketball to Vancouver, that’s why I choose those locations. I decided to (obviously) bring back the Supersonics name. I’m a believer that team history follows the team in relocation, and not “leaving history in the city.” So even though they have the old Green and Yellow Color Scheme, they have no relation to the pre-2008 team outside of name. I would also (unleaded to me re-alignment) not allow the Pelicans-Hornets-Bobcats history mess to happen. They team names don’t matter. Back on topic, the second expansion team is called the Vancouver Beavers. The Beavers name was a finalist in the original Vancouver Grizzlies name contest, so I deciding to use that. Both these teams end up in the Pacific Division. For :censored:s and giggles, I decided to relocate some teams for the hell of it. The Clippers go back to San Diego, which is where they came from. Also because SD people have it rough losing the Chargers. (Perfect time to bring back the Powder Blue and Orange, and rebrand similarly to the 2017-18 City Uniform.) The Kings go back to Kansas City, despite just getting a new Stadium. Missouri, with St. Louis and KC, is a very good sports state. I choose KC because they have the unused NBA-Ready Sprint Center, and because of more recent NAB history that STL. The Nets pull a Giants/Jets, but the opposite. They play in NY, but call themselves NJ. Also because New Jersey Nets sounds better than Brooklyn Nets. With the growth of the Divisions in a size sense, and me being a supporter of “Divisions should matter in Sports.” the NBA returns to Division Winners are a top seed. With having 8 teams rather than 5, it reduces the chance of having a non deserving team get a high seed. The 2 Division Winners in each Conference will get the top 2 Postseason Seeds, with 3-8 just being the same as it’s always been, with the rest of the Conference fighting for those. Unlike the 2004-2014 format, Division Winners also get Home-Court Advantage throughout the Postseason. I will also be doing MLB Re-Alignment and a NFL Fix-Up (no big changes there) tomorrow, and have a hand-drawn NBA, MLB, and NFL series coming soon to the Concepts section of the board, which will follow my New Universe. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simtek34 1,589 Posted July 19, 2019 22 hours ago, simtek34 said: I will also be doing MLB Re-Alignment and a NFL Fix-Up (no big changes there) tomorrow, and have a hand-drawn NBA, MLB, and NFL series coming soon to the Concepts section of the board, which will follow my New Universe. And here is that MLB Re-Alignment and Expansion now... American League: American League East: New York Yankees Boston Red Sox Tampa Bay Rays Toronto Blue Jays Baltimore Orioles Raleigh ???? (Any ideas?) Cleveland Indians Detroit Tigers American League West: Minnesota Twins Milwaukee Brewers Chicago White Sox Kansas City Royals Texas Rangers Anaheim Angels Oakland Athletics Seattle Mariners National League: National League East: Philadelphia Phillies Washington Nationals New York Mets Atlanta Braves Miami Marlins Montreal Expos Pittsburgh Pirates Cincinnati Reds National League West: Chicago Cubs St. Louis Cardinals Houston Astros Arizona Diamondbacks Colorado Rockies Los Angeles Dodgers San Francisco Giants San Diego Padres I expand to Raleigh, North Carolina and Montreal, Quebec. Raleigh due to Carolina, in my opinion, being a good fit for a team, and the “MLB Raleigh” Group is starting to pick up steam, with CBS Writing an article on it today. Not a fan of Portland, sorry! Playoffs work with the Division Winners making the playoffs, 3 and 4 seeds are the #2 Teams in each division, and the 5th seed is the best remaining highest record, regardless of division. Also, despite me basing an AL Guy and a Life-Long Twins Fan, the Designated Hitter is abolished. Farewell DH! NFL Cleanup is tomorrow! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
