The Pointless Realignment Outpost

[pmoehrin]

This is a long post, but I feel like a somewhat informative one for this topic.

 

I know there's a lot of information out there online regarding metro area population, but there isn't much regarding television market population data.

 

The Wikipedia article on the subject provides some insights on the number of households but doesn't get into specifics on population data. Information on Canada is even more scarce. This page only considers metro data, and the map listed on the North America TV market page isn't even an accurate TV map. It's a radio map.

 

That said, here are the population figures I was able to generate based on the 2020 US Census Data and 2021 Canadian Census Data.

 

Both Detroit and Presque Isle TV markets cover a portion of Canada, so there will not be a one-for-one match between the Canadian/US markets and their total population figures. There was also a bit of guestimating with the location of some of the Canadian TV markets, but I feel like these figures are close enough to provide a good reference.

 

You'll have to figure out the cities and metro areas included in each TV market as it would take me way too long to explain, but I'm happy to answer any questions in a PM if anyone has any.

 

TV Market	Population
New York	22,165,217
Los Angeles	18,306,735
Chicago	9,778,928
Philadelphia	8,350,823
DFW Metroplex	8,336,777
SF Bay Area	7,925,404
Toronto	7,759,635
Houston	7,474,714
Washington, D.C.	7,325,480
Atlanta	7,205,337
Boston	6,830,407
Phoenix	5,665,051
Seattle	5,529,201
Detroit	5,486,895
Orlando	5,179,615
Minnesota	4,882,655
Montreal	4,828,187
Miami	4,729,016
Denver	4,617,859
Tampa Bay	4,289,396
Sacramento	4,199,193
Vancouver	3,910,778
Cleveland	3,855,568
Portland, OR	3,487,128
Utah	3,456,164
Charlotte	3,372,316
Research Triangle	3,303,930
San Diego	3,298,634
St. Louis	3,137,556
Baltimore	3,070,783
Indianapolis	3,044,192
Nashville	3,030,446
San Antonio	2,900,282
Pittsburgh	2,832,739
Connecticut	2,648,525
Kansas City	2,570,755
Columbus, OH	2,523,273
Cincinnati	2,439,019
Austin	2,410,984
Upstate South Carolina	2,373,572
Milwaukee	2,340,417
Las Vegas	2,321,551
West Palm Beach	2,179,280
West Michigan	2,100,346
Fresno	2,088,845
Jacksonville, FL	2,019,090
Hampton Roads	1,977,678
New Mexico	1,968,522
Oklahoma City	1,964,638
Birmingham, AL	1,947,606
Central Pennsylvania	1,917,895
Calgary	1,903,439
Memphis	1,875,786
Piedmont Triad	1,853,591
Edmonton	1,829,802
Louisville	1,784,588
Ottawa	1,770,153
New Orleans	1,759,800
Providence	1,676,579
Buffalo	1,614,147
Richmond, VA	1,608,257
Northeastern Pennsylvania	1,507,645
Florida Gulf Coast	1,488,280
Little Rock	1,462,301
Hawaii	1,455,271
Tulsa	1,433,462
Albany, NY	1,410,138
Southwest Florida	1,409,142
Knoxville	1,389,266
Manitoba	1,379,011
Rio Grande Valley	1,377,882
Dayton	1,331,527
Lexington, KY	1,305,182
Spokane	1,246,285
Tucson	1,216,549
Wichita	1,205,897
Omaha	1,194,997
Des Moines	1,182,991
Charleston, WV	1,173,075
Green Bay	1,164,584
Ozarks	1,147,229
Mid-Michigan	1,129,059
Roanoke	1,128,864
Central Texas	1,107,422
North Alabama	1,104,471
Toledo	1,094,313
El Paso	1,090,608
Tri-Cities, ON	1,089,834
Columbia, SC	1,085,781
London, ON	1,061,577
Madison, WI	1,038,409
Portland, ME	1,030,973
Southern Colorado	1,030,543
Rochester, NY	1,025,018
Ark-La-Tex	1,019,951
Chattanooga	1,013,087
Savannah	981,576
Syracuse	949,442
Paducah	945,004
Baton Rouge	941,282
Charleston, SC	932,670
Quebec City	919,438
Michiana	909,010
Central Illinois	907,662
Cedar Rapids	900,421
Jackson, MS	897,046
Boise	885,276
Sherbrooke	879,480
Northwest Arkansas	870,131
Bakersfield	867,221
Champlain Valley	858,785
Halifax	837,364
Tri-Cities, TN	808,960
Eastern North Carolina	792,415
Myrtle Beach	785,839
Quad Cities	784,354
Monterey Bay	774,105
Barrie	767,005
Kelowna, BC	766,208
Reno	765,555
Tri-Cities-Yakima	759,532
Lincoln	756,018
Tallahassee	752,042
East Texas	751,072
The Alleghenies	747,828
Augusta, GA	747,701
Fort Wayne	744,600
Tri-State IL-IN-KY	737,956
Central Coast	730,653
Sioux Falls	719,490
Springfield, MA	699,162
Lansing	679,315
Central Georgia	666,347
Fargo	655,953
Northern Michigan	654,914
Eugene	654,285
Montgomery, AL	647,354
Youngstown	643,120
North Central Illinois	627,883
Acadiana	625,524
Columbus, GA	618,954
Saint John	589,379
South Texas	586,912
La Crosse-Eau Claire	568,475
Anchorage	551,680
Amarillo	547,614
Newfoundland & Labrador	523,204
Chico-Redding	504,645
Cape Fear	502,827
North Mississippi	486,326
Mid-Missouri	483,741
Kingston, ON	482,482
Permian Basin	474,218
Rockford, IL	469,361
Lubbock	466,937
Ark-La-Miss	465,622
Southern Oregon	465,144
Southeast Texas	462,560
Twin Ports	457,472
Central Wisconsin	455,195
Trois-Rivières	454,059
Topeka	451,059
Greater Sudbury	450,079
West Dakota	435,569
Delmarva	418,046
East Idaho	417,895
Saskatoon	409,357
Albany, GA	409,129
Siouxland	408,811
Wabash Valley	399,977
Four State Area	399,388
Palm Springs	398,975
Western Texoma	398,639
Mississippi Gulf Coast	394,556
Erie, PA	393,401
Panama City	391,076
Yuma-El Centro	383,583
Rochester, MN	383,571
Ohio Valley	359,592
Regina	358,736
Gainesville, FL	356,006
Utica	350,788
Eastern Texoma	347,833
Bangor	345,656
Binghamton	338,666
Saguenay	319,370
Western Montana	317,831
Peterborough	316,293
Abilene	313,182
Bluefield, WV	312,977
Pine Belt	300,064
Billings	293,175
Southwest Louisiana	281,701
Laredo	281,003
Black Hills	276,755
Red Deer	274,723
Wiregrass Region	273,799
Tri-Cities, IA-IL-MO	268,801
Shenandoah Valley	267,147
Clarksburg, WV	261,877
Bowling Green	257,901
North Country, NY	251,808
Abitibi-Témiscamingue	249,831
Central Louisiana	240,635
Rimouski	237,992
Northeast Arkansas	237,154
Twin Tiers	236,675
Upper Peninsula of Michigan	215,326
Lloydminster, BC-SK	210,772
Rivière-du-Loup	209,547
Southwest Montana	207,313
Magic Valley	205,548
Western Colorado	200,708
Central Oregon	198,253
Prince George, BC	197,647
Lafayette, IN	194,691
Charlottesville	193,337
Mississippi Delta	184,767
West Tennessee	181,936
Meridian, MS	172,975
Great Falls, MT	171,758
Thunder Bay	166,299
Redwood Empire	164,206
Prince Albert, SK	160,402
Prince Edward Island	154,331
San Angelo	152,275
Parkersburg, WV	151,720
Cheyenne	149,094
St. Joseph, MO	148,904
Central Wyoming	145,246
Presque Isle	144,380
Chaleur Bay	139,928
Ottumwa-Kirksville	139,310
Mankato	135,690
Cape Breton Island	132,019
Sault Ste. Marie	127,712
Yorkton	114,464
Fairbanks	109,425
Lima, OH	102,206
Medicine Hat, AB	91,733
Victoria, TX	91,319
Zanesville, OH	86,410
Southeast Alaska	72,286
Helena	70,973
Dawson Creek, BC	66,010
Kenora, ON	66,000
Terrace, BC	60,236
Swift Current	41,712
Northwest Territories	41,070
Yukon	40,232
North Platte, NE	37,325
Glendive, MT	13,077

[BrySmalls]

What statistical area are you using to calculate the US cities population?

[pmoehrin]

3 hours ago, BrySmalls said:

What statistical area are you using to calculate the US cities population?

 

Television markets which can be seen in the map below. Some of the names are different, (Utah instead of Salt Lake City, West Michigan instead of Grand Rapids, etc.) but the mapping area is the same.

This isn't the same thing as Metro Area and you'll see that Miami for example, has a smaller TV market than a metro area. This is because of West Palm Beach, which is included in the Miami metro area, but it's also it's own TV market.

 

In some cases such as Lehigh Valley, the metro area can fall into either NYC or Philadelphia TV markets depending on which county we're looking at.

 

The US population for the 2020 Census was listed at 331,449,281. The Canada figure was 36,991,981 for 2021.

That totals to 368,441,262 which is the grand total you will get if you add up the population figures for every TV market I have listed.

 

[BrySmalls]

That's a cool map. I just found this interactive Nielsen Media Markets map after a quick Google search.

[pmoehrin]

4 hours ago, BrySmalls said:

That's a cool map. I just found this interactive Nielsen Media Markets map after a quick Google search.

 

To me, it's a better measure of so-called "market size" than metro area.

 

The only reason I have this information at all is because a lot of my 9-5 job deals with advertising.

 

The household info is useful if we're just talking about TV ratings, but it's tough to do an apples-to-apples comparison if we're talking about anything else. The population figures I provide allow this information to be used alongside Metro and Combined Statistical Area figures.

The main file I have has that metro/CSA breakdown built-in, along with some demographic and economic data. Unfortunately, I cannot give that info out, as I feel like someone would steal it and use it for their own benefit without giving me any credit. Nothing like that has happened because of this board, and I doubt the this would happen even if I did give the file out. But I no longer trust anyone with my work.

[BrySmalls]

2 hours ago, pmoehrin said:

 

To me, it's a better measure of so-called "market size" than metro area.

 

The only reason I have this information at all is because a lot of my 9-5 job deals with advertising.

 

The household info is useful if we're just talking about TV ratings, but it's tough to do an apples-to-apples comparison if we're talking about anything else. The population figures I provide allow this information to be used alongside Metro and Combined Statistical Area figures.

The main file I have has that metro/CSA breakdown built-in, along with some demographic and economic data. Unfortunately, I cannot give that info out, as I feel like someone would steal it and use it for their own benefit without giving me any credit. Nothing like that has happened because of this board, and I doubt the this would happen even if I did give the file out. But I no longer trust anyone with my work.

 

Determining whether to use MSA or CSA is tricky when displaying maps as a graphic. It sounds like you have valuable geospatial data. I recommend keeping it under lock and key rather than making it freely available for anyone to use, run analysis on, and not give you any credit.

[pmoehrin]

19 minutes ago, BrySmalls said:

 

Determining whether to use MSA or CSA is tricky when displaying maps as a graphic. It sounds like you have valuable geospatial data. I recommend keeping it under lock and key rather than making it freely available for anyone to use, run analysis on, and not give you any credit.

 

Why do you think I'm only listing the final figures?

 

It would take anyone days if not months to reverse engineer those numbers. Good luck with Quebec for starters.

[BrySmalls]

Say no more! ;)

[TrueYankee26]

On 5/19/2022 at 4:01 PM, BrySmalls said:

 

Determining whether to use MSA or CSA is tricky when displaying maps as a graphic. It sounds like you have valuable geospatial data. I recommend keeping it under lock and key rather than making it freely available for anyone to use, run analysis on, and not give you any credit.

Speaking of Media Markets, There is also a DMA map on a site called TruckAds, it is clickable.

 

https://www.truckads.com/designated-market-map.asp

 

When you click a dot on the map it will show you more details of the market, for example the NY media market has counties in Connecticut, New York, New Jersey and even parts of Pennsylvania. And below the map of the market shows the rest of the media markets in the state, the affiliates of all the channels, the names of the counties and cities in the market.

 

https://www.truckads.com/Designated-Market/New-York.htm#map

[pmoehrin]

On 5/24/2022 at 11:00 AM, TrueYankee26 said:

Speaking of Media Markets, There is also a DMA map on a site called TruckAds, it is clickable.

 

https://www.truckads.com/designated-market-map.asp

 

When you click a dot on the map it will show you more details of the market, for example the NY media market has counties in Connecticut, New York, New Jersey and even parts of Pennsylvania. And below the map of the market shows the rest of the media markets in the state, the affiliates of all the channels, the names of the counties and cities in the market.

 

https://www.truckads.com/Designated-Market/New-York.htm#map

 

It's a decent find. I used it to update one of my markets where I was off by a little under 30k.

 

The excel file they are selling for $450 looks like an excel sheet I would have created when I was in my mid-20s. It isn't bad. But if you're incapable of doing a vlookup in Excel, or have no idea that you can download 90% of this stuff from the Census Bureau for free, you end up paying for this type of stuff.

 

$250 every three months for zip code updates!!? How often do people think zip codes are updated? A file like they have from 2016 would probably still be good enough to use for whatever analysis you need to do.

[Marcos Flamengo]

My proposal for the Brazilian football league system

 

LIBRA Série A (20 teams) - Organized by LIBRA

 

Atlético Clube Goianiense (Goiânia, Goiás)

Clube América Mineiro (Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais)

Club Athletico Paranaense (Curitiba, Paraná)

Avaí Esporte Clube (Florianópolis, Santa Catarina)

Associação Chapecoense de Futebol (Chapecó, Santa Catarina)

Botafogo de Futebol e Regatas (Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro)

Sport Club Corinthians Paulista (São Paulo, São Paulo)

Cruzeiro Esporte Clube (Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais)

Cuiabá Esporte Clube (Cuiabá, Mato Grosso)

Clube de Regatas do Flamengo (Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro)

Fluminense Football Club (Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro)

Fortaleza Esporte Clube (Fortaleza, Ceará)

Goiás Esporte Clube (Goiânia, Goiás)

Grêmio Foot-Ball Porto Alegrense (Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul)

Sport Club Internacional (Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul)

Esporte Clube Juventude (Caxias do Sul, Rio Grande do Sul)

Sociedade Esportiva Palmeiras (São Paulo, São Paulo)

Red Bull Bragantino (Bragança Paulista, São Paulo)

Santos Futebol Clube (Santos, São Paulo)

São Paulo Futebol Clube (São Paulo, São Paulo)

 

LIBRA Série B (20 teams) - Organized by LIBRA

 

ABC Futebol Clube (Natal, Rio Grande do Norte)

Esporte Clube Bahia (Salvador, Bahia)

Grêmio Esportivo Brasil (Pelotas, Rio Grande do Sul)

Brusque Futebol Clube (Brusque, Santa Catarina)

Ceará Sporting Club (Fortaleza, Ceará)

Coritiba Foot-Ball Club (Curitiba, Paraná)

Criciúma Esporte Clube (Criciúma, Santa Catarina)

Clube de Regatas Brasil (Maceió, Alagoas)

Ituano Futebol Clube (itu, São Paulo)

Londrina Esporte Clube (Londrina, Paraná)

Clube Náutico Capibaribe (Recife, Pernambuco)

Operário Ferroviário Esporte Clube (Ponta Grossa, Paraná)

Associação Atlética Ponte Preta (Campinas, São Paulo)

Clube do Remo (Belém, Pará)

Esporte Clube São José (Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul)

Sampaio Corrêa Futebol Clube (São Luís, Maranhão)

Sport Club do Recife (Recife, Pernambuco)

Tombense Futebol Clube (Tombos, Minas Gerais)

Esporte Clube Vitória (Salvador, Bahia)

Volta Redonda Futebol Clube (Volta Redonda, Rio de Janeiro)

 

LNF Série Ouro (20 teams) - Organized by National Football League (LNF)

 

Academia Pérolas Negras (Resende, RIo de Janeiro)

Associação Atlética Aparecidense (Aparecida de Goiânia, Goiás)

Botafogo Futebol Clube (João Pessoa, Paraíba)

Botafogo Futebol Clube (Ribeirão Preto, São Paulo)

Brasiliense Futebol Clube (Taguatinga, Federal District)

Campinense Clube (Campina Grande, Paraíba)

Associação Desportiva Confiança (Aracaju, Sergipe)

Centro Sportivo Alagoano (Maceió, Alagoas)

Associação Atlética Internacional (Limeira, São Paulo)

Ferroviário Atlético Clube (Fortaleza, Ceará)

Figueirense Futebol Clube (Florianópolis, Santa Catarina)

Guarani Futebol Clube (Campinas, São Paulo)

Grêmio Esportivo Novorizontino (Novo Horizonte, São Paulo)

Manaus Futebol Clube (Manaus, Amazonas)

Mirassol Futebol Clube (Mirassol, São Paulo)

Moto Club (São Luís, Maranhão)

Paysandu Sport Club (Belém, Pará)

Club de Regatas Vasco da Gama (Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro)

Vila Nova Futebol Clube (Goiânia, Goiás)

Ypiranga Futebol Clube (Erechim, Rio Grande do Sul)

 

LNF Série Prata (20 teams) - Organized by National Football League (LNF)

 

Associação Atlética de Altos (Altos, Piauí)

Futebol Clube Atlético Cearense (Fortaleza, Ceará)

Sociedade Esportiva e Recreativa Caxias do Sul (Caxias do Sul, Rio Grande do Sul)

Costa Rica Esporte Clube (Costa Rica, Mato Grosso do Sul)

Floresta Esporte Clube (Fortaleza, Ceará)

Grêmio Esportivo Anápolis (Anápolis, Goiás)

Associação Desportiva Recreativa Cultural Icasa (Juazeiro do Norte, Ceará)

Sociedade Desportiva Juazeirense (Juazeiro, Bahia)

Clube Náutico Marcílio Dias (Itajaí, Santa Catarina)

Clube Esportivo Operário Várzea-Grandense (Várzea Grande, Mato Grosso)

Paraná Clube (Curitiba, Paraná)

Associação Atlética Portuguesa (Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro)

Retrô Futebol Clube Brasil (Camaragibe, Pernambuco)

Santa Cruz Futebol Clube (Recife, Pernambuco)

Esporte Clube Santo André (Santo André, São Paulo)

São Paulo Crystal Futebol Clube (Cruz do Espírito Santo, Paraíba)

São Raimundo Esporte Clube (Boa Vista, Roraima)

Club Sportivo Sergipe (Aracaju, Sergipe)

Trem Desportivo Clube (Macapá, Amapá)

Tuna Luso Brasileira (Belém, Pará)

 

LNF Série Bronze (20 teams) - Organized by National Football League (LNF)

 

4 de Julho Esporte Clube (Piripiri, Piauí)

Amazonas Futebol Clube (Manaus, Amazonas)

Agremiação Sportiva Arapiraquense (Arapiraca, Maceió)

Azuriz Futebol Clube (Pato Branco, Paraná)

Associação Desportiva Bahia de Feira (Feira de Santana, Bahia)

Associação Atlética Caldense (Poços de Caldas, Minas Gerais)

Associação Ferroviária de Esportes (Araraquara, São Paulo)

Fluminense Esporte Clube (Teresina, Piauí)

Globo Futebol Clube (Ceará-Mirim, Rio Grande do Norte)

Sport Clube Humaitá (Porto Acre, Acre)

Iporá Esporte Clube (Iporá, Goiás)

Esporte Clube Jacuipense (Riachão do Jacuípe, Bahia)

Sociedade Esportiva Juventude (São Mateus do Maranhão, Maranhão)

Lagarto Futebol Clube (Lagarto, Sergipe)

Náutico Futebol Clube (Boa Vista, Roraima)

Associação Atlética Portuguesa (Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro)

Real Noroeste Capixaba Futebol Clube (Águia Branca, Espírito Santo)

São Raimundo Esporte Clube (Manaus, Amazonas)

Tocantinópolis Esporte Clube (Tocantinópolis, Tocantins)

União Recreativa dos Trabalhadores (Patos de Minas, Minas Gerais)

 

Campeonato Brasileiro Série A1 (24 teams) - Organized by the Brazilian Football Confederation (CBF)

 

Sociedade Ação Futebol (Santo Antônio de Leverger, Mato Grosso)

Afogados da Ingazeira Futebol Clube (Afogados da Ingazeira, Pernambuco)

Clube Esportivo Aimoré (São Leopoldo, Rio Grande do Sul)

Alagoinhas Atlético Clube (Alagoinhas, Bahia)

América Futebol Clube (Natal, Rio Grande do Norte)

Anápolis Futebol Clube (Anápolis, Goiás)

Castanhal Esporte Clube (Castanhal, Pará)

Ceilândia Esporte Clube (Ceilândia, Federal District)

Crato Esporte Clube (Crato, Ceará)

Clube Sociedade Esportiva (Palmeira dos Índios, Alagoas)

Futebol Clube Cascavel (Cascavel, Paraná)

Sociedade Esportiva do Gama (Gama, Federal District)

Goytacaz Futebol Clube (Campos dos Goytacazes, Rio de Janeiro)

Hercílio Luz Futebol Clube (Tubarão, Santa Catarina)

Grêmio Esportivo Juventus (Jaraguá do Sul, Santa Catarina)

Nova Iguaçu Futebol Clube (Nova Iguaçu, Rio de Janeiro)

Nova Venécia Futebol Clube (Nova Venécia, Espírito Santo)

Oeste Futebol Clube (Barueri, São Paulo)

Pacajus Futebol Clube (Pacajus, Ceará)

Associação Portuguesa de Desportos (São Paulo, São Paulo)

Porto Velho Esporte Clube (Porto Velho, Rondônia)

Pouso Alegre Futebol Clube (Pouso Alegre, Minas Gerais)

Rio Branco Football Club (Rio Branco, Acre)

Atlético Rio Negro Clube (Manaus, Amazonas)

 

Campeonato Brasileiro Série A2 (24 teams) - Organized by the Brazilian Football Confederation (CBF)

 

America Football Club (Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro)

Athletic Club (São João Del Rei, Minas Gerais)

Bragantino Clube do Pará (Bragança, Pará)

Brasília Futebol Clube (The Pilot Plan, Federal District)

Caruaru City Sport Club (Caruaru, Pernambuco)

Clube Esportivo Bento Gonçalves (Bento Gonçalves, RIo Grande do Sul)

Nacional Fast Clube (Manaus, Amazonas)

Guarany Sporting Club (Sobral, Ceará)

Sociedade Imperatriz de Desportos (Imperatriz, Maranhão)

Associação Olímpica de Itabaiana (Itabaiana, Sergipe)

Joinville Esporte Clube (Joinville, Santa Catarina)

Clube Atlético Juventus (São Paulo, São Paulo)

Madureira Esporte Clube (Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro)

Nacional Atlético Clube (Rolândia, Paraná)

Palmas Futebol e Regatas (Palmas, Tocantins)

Clube Atlético Patrocinense (Patrocínio, Minas Gerais)

Associação Cultural e Desportiva Potiguar (Mossoró, Rio Grande do Norte)

Rio Branco Futebol Clube (Venda Nova do Imigrante, Espírito Santo)

Salgueiro Atlético Clube (Salgueiro, Pernambuco)

Esporte Clube São Bento (Sorocaba, São Paulo)

Treze Futebol Clube (Campina Grande, Paraíba)

Uberlândia Esporte Clube (Uberlândia, Minas Gerais)

Esporte Clube Primeiro Passo Vitória da Conquista (Vitória da Conquista, Bahia)

Ypiranga Clube (Macapá, Amapá)

 

Campeonato Brasileiro Série A3 (24 teams) - Organized by the Brazilian Football Confederation (CBF)

 

Aquidauanense Futebol Clube (Aquidauana, Mato Grosso do Sul)

Atlético Acreano (Rio Branco, Acre)

Bangu Atlético Clube (Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro)

Galvez Esporte Clube (Rio Branco, Acre)

Goiânia Esporte Clube (Goiânia, Goiás)

Nova Mutum Esporte Clube (Nova Mutum, Mato Grosso)

Real Desportivo Ariquemes (Ariquemes, Rondônia)

Rio Branco Sport Club (Paranaguá, Pará)

Santana Esporte Clube (Santana, Amapá)

União Esporte Clube (Rondonópolis, Mato Grosso)

[TrueYankee26]

Something different: since this is a pointless realignment after all lol I made one for media companies.

 

• Warner Bros. Discovery buys Paramount Global and reforms The WB and UPN after the CW gets taken off the air.
• Comcast buys Electronic Arts. (a merger that almost happened in real life)
• Fox Corporation (21st Century Fox) and News Corporation unite after splitting in 2013, and buys Sinclair, thus forming 22nd Century Fox and getting back the Bally RSNs they sold from the Disney purchase of 21st Century Fox assets and renames them Fox Sports Net again.
• Walt Disney Company is at it again. They purchase Sony and then Apple buys the combined Disney-Sony Company.
• Not to be outdone, Google purchases Netflix and forms channels and movie studios of their own.
• A disgruntled man from San Antonio called Jason Terry Allen* graduated from UTSA and went to apply for a job at NBC but gets harshly denied. He gets hired by Disney as first a janitor, then he becomes a costume wearer for Mickey Mouse and gets a job for WABC but gets fired. He forms a company called Atlantic & Pacific Communications (A&P for short) and in no time it gets big. They purchase Microsoft.
• Three Networks following the A&P model - New England Communications (formed by Kelly McDoogal* after he gets fired by WBZ), Dixie Heart Corporation (formed by Chester Lester* after he was laid off from a CBS station in Arkansas) and Empire Communications (formed by Juan Castellanos* after quitting his job at WNYW and his side gig at Uber Eats) form a company called Liberty Enterprises.

Broadcast Channels:

• ABC, 20th Century Network, Sony Network & Univision: Owned by Apple.
• CBS, The CW, UPN & Ojo**: Owned by Warner Bros. Discovery-Paramount Global.
• NBC, Telemundo & Sky America: Owned by Comcast.
• FOX & TeleFOX: Owned by 22nd Century FOX.
• Amazon Broadcasting Network (ABN): Owned by Amazon.
• Tribune Channel: Owned by Nexstar-Tribune Media.
• Google Network: Owned by Google-Netflix.
• A&P Network 24/7: Owned by Atlantic & Pacific Communications.
• The New England Network (serving New England, Atlantic Canada & Quebec), Dixie Heart Network (serving the South), Empire Network (serving the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic (except New England) and Ontario and Quebec) & Yankee Network (serving everywhere else): Owned by Liberty Enterprises.

Streaming Networks:

• Disney+, ESPN+ & Hulu: Apple
• Paramount+ & HBO Max: Warner Bros. Discovery-Paramount Global
• Peacock: Comcast
• FOX+ & Tubi: 22nd Century FOX
• Prime Video: Amazon
• Netflix: Google-Netflix
• A&P All Access, APSN+ & Hudu: Atlantic & Pacific Communications

*Made up people. Any resemblances to real people are coincidental.

**Channel created by CBS to serve the Spanish speaking community

[SeaTac]

OITGDNHL Future Takes:

 

The NHL absurdly decides to expand to 36 teams with Kansas City, Houston, Portland & San Diego.

 

Still no team in Quebec City and yes the Coyotes still exist in Arizona. 

 

Vegas decides to add Las to it's name. 

 

ATLANTIC DIVISION

New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers,

Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington 

 

NORTHEAST DIVISION

Boston, Buffalo, Columbus,

Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto

 

SOUTHERN DIVISION 

Carolina, Dallas, Florida, 

Houston, Nashville, Tampa Bay

 

CENTRAL DIVISION 

Chicago, Detroit, Kansas City,

Minnesota, St. Louis, Winnipeg 

 

NORTHWEST DIVISION 

Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton,

Portland, Seattle, Vancouver 

 

PACIFIC DIVISION 

Anaheim, Arizona, Las Vegas,

Los Angeles, San Diego, San Jose

 

 

 

 

[ManillaToad]

17 hours ago, EskimoAldus said:

OITGDNHL Future Takes:

 

The NHL absurdly decides to expand to 36 teams with Kansas City, Houston, Portland & San Diego.

 

Still no team in Quebec City and yes the Coyotes still exist in Arizona. 

 

Vegas decides to add Las to it's name. 

 

ATLANTIC DIVISION

New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers,

Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington 

 

NORTHEAST DIVISION

Boston, Buffalo, Columbus,

Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto

 

SOUTHERN DIVISION 

Carolina, Dallas, Florida, 

Houston, Nashville, Tampa Bay

 

CENTRAL DIVISION 

Chicago, Detroit, Kansas City,

Minnesota, St. Louis, Winnipeg 

 

NORTHWEST DIVISION 

Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton,

Portland, Seattle, Vancouver 

 

PACIFIC DIVISION 

Anaheim, Arizona, Las Vegas,

Los Angeles, San Diego, San Jose

 

 

 

 

 

No conferences?

[McCall]

20 hours ago, EskimoAldus said:

OITGDNHL Future Takes:

 

The NHL absurdly decides to expand to 36 teams with Kansas City, Houston, Portland & San Diego.

 

Still no team in Quebec City and yes the Coyotes still exist in Arizona. 

 

Vegas decides to add Las to it's name. 

 

ATLANTIC DIVISION

New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers,

Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington 

 

NORTHEAST DIVISION

Boston, Buffalo, Columbus,

Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto

 

SOUTHERN DIVISION 

Carolina, Dallas, Florida, 

Houston, Nashville, Tampa Bay

 

CENTRAL DIVISION 

Chicago, Detroit, Kansas City,

Minnesota, St. Louis, Winnipeg 

 

NORTHWEST DIVISION 

Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton,

Portland, Seattle, Vancouver 

 

PACIFIC DIVISION 

Anaheim, Arizona, Las Vegas,

Los Angeles, San Diego, San Jose

 

 

 

 

San Diego?

[SeaTac]

It's the NHL guys. It's not serious.

[ManillaToad]

2 hours ago, EskimoAldus said:

It's the NHL guys. It's not serious.

 

I asked because I'm interested in your realignment, not as criticism.

[Marcos Flamengo]

The MLB decides to expand to 36 teams.

 

AMERICAN LEAGUE

 

AL East: Baltimore Orioles, Boston Red Sox, Montreal Expos, New York Yankees, Tampa Bay Rays, Toronto Blue Jays

AL Central: Chicago White Sox, Cleveland Guardians, Detroit Tigers, Kansas City Royals, Minnesota Twins, Nashville Stars

AL West: Houston Astros, Los Angeles Angels, Oakland Athletics, Portland Beavers, Seattle Mariners, Texas Rangers

 

NATIONAL LEAGUE

 

NL East: Atlanta Braves, Miami Marlins, New York Mets, Orlando Whitecaps, Philadelphia Phillies, Washington Nationals

NL Central: Austin Scorpions, Chicago Cubs, Cincinnati Reds, Milwaukee Brewers, Pittsburgh Pirates, St. Louis Cardinals

NL West: Arizona Diamondbacks, Colorado Rockies, Los Angeles Dodgers, San Diego Padres, San Francisco Giants, Vegas Supernovas

 

These would be the regional broadcasters for all 36 MLB teams

 

AMERICAN LEAGUE

 

Baltimore Orioles: MASN, WBAL Newsradio 1090 AM & 101.5 FM, 98 Rock

Boston Red Sox: NESN, WEEI 93.7 FM

Chicago White Sox: NBC Sports Chicago, ESPN Chicago 1000 AM, Acción 95.5 HD3

Cleveland Guardians: Bally Sports Great Lakes, WKYC 3, Newsradio WTAM 1100 AM and 106.9 FM, Acción 99.5 HD3

Detroit Tigers: Bally Sports Detroit, The Bet Detroit, 97.1 The Ticket

Houston Astros: AT&T SportsNet Southwest, Sportstalk 790, Newsradio 740 KTRH, TUDN Radio Houston

Kansas City Royals: Bally Sports Kansas City, 610 Sports, 98.9 The Rock!

Los Angeles Angels: Bally Sports West, Bally Sports SoCal, KCOP 13, Angels Radio 830 AM, ESPN LA 710 AM, KLOS 2, Tu Liga Radio 1330 AM

Minnesota Twins: Bally Sports North, News/Talk 8•3•0 WCCO, 102.9 The Wolf, La Raza

Montreal Expos: Sportsnet, Sportsnet One, RDS, TSN 690, 91.9 Sports

Nashville Stars: AT&T SportsNet Southeast, Talkradio 98.3 & 1510, TUDN Radio Nashville 900 AM & 105.9 HD3

New York Yankees: YES Network, Prime Video, WFAN Sports Radio 66 AM and 101.9 FM, Yankees en Español por iHeartRadio

Oakland Athletics: Bloomberg 960 and 103.7 HD2, iHeartRadio's A's Cast, El Patrón 990 AM, 1010 AM & 103.7-HD3

Portland Beavers: Bally Sports Northwest, 1080 The Fan, 92.3 KGON, La Pantera 940

Seattle Mariners: Root Sports Northwest, Seattle Sports 710 AM, 770 KTTH, El Rey 1360 AM

Tampa Bay Rays: NBC Sports Florida, 95.3 WDAE, US 103.5, TUDN Radio Bahía de Tampa

Texas Rangers: Bally Sports Southwest, TXA 21, 105.3 The Fan, NewsRadio 1080 KRLD, Canal de Tejas, La Ranchera 106.7 FM / 1540 AM

Toronto Blue Jays: Sportsnet, Sportsnet One, TVA Sports, Sportsnet 590 The Fan, 98,5 FM

 

NATIONAL LEAGUE

 

Arizona Diamondbacks: Bally Sports Arizona, ESPN Phoenix 620 AM (daytime games), Arizona Sports 98.7 FM (evening or weekend games), KPHE-TV 44, TUDN Radio Phoenix

Atlanta Braves: Bally Sports South, Bally Sports Southeast, The Fan 680 and 93.7 FM, Rock 100.5

Austin Scorpions: Bally Sports Southwest, KASE 101, El Patrón 1060 AM

Chicago Cubs: Marquee Sports Network, 670 The Score, La Ley 107.9

Cincinnati Reds: Bally Sports Ohio, Newsradio 700 WLW

Colorado Rockies: AT&T SportsNet Rocky Mountain, KOA NewsRaido 850 AM and 94.1 FM, Talk Radio 630 KHOW, Acción 1150

Los Angeles Dodgers: Spectrum SportsNet LA, AM 570 LA Sports, Spectrum Sportsnet (via Spanish SAP), KTNQ 1020 AM

Miami Marlins: Bally Sports Florida, Fox Sports 940 and 94.9-HD2, Bally Sports Florida en Español, Radio Mambí 710 AM

Milwaukee Brewers: Bally Sports Wisconsin, 620 WTMJ, 94.5 ESPN, Telemundo Wisconsin, Unanimo Deportes 860 AM & 106.5 FM

New York Mets: SNY, PIX 11, WCBS Newsradio 880, Mets en Español by Audacy, SNY (via Spanish SAP),

Orlando Whitecaps: AT&T SportsNet Florida, ESPN Orlando 790 AM and 103.1 FM, TUDN Radio Orlando

Philadelphia Phillies: NBC Sports Philadelphia, NBC Sports Philadelphia Plus, NBC 10, Cozi TV, PHL 17, Sports Radio 94 WIP, Talk Radio 1210 WPHT, La Unika,

Pittsburgh Pirates: AT&T SportsNet Pittsburgh, SportsRadio 93.7 The Fan, KDKA Newsradio 100.1 FM and 1020 AM, TUDN Radio Pittsburgh 620 AM & 102.5 HD3

St. Louis Cardinals: Bally Sports Midwest, KMOX Newsradio 1120 AM & 98.7 FM, La Tremenda 880 AM

San Diego Padres: Bally Sports San Diego, 97.3 The Fan, La Poderosa 860 AM

San Francisco Giants: NBC Sports Bay Area, NBC Bay Area, KNBR 680 AM and 104.5 FM, Radio Lazer 93.7 FM

Vegas Supernovas: AT&T SportsNet Rocky Mountain,  NewsRadio 840 AM KXNT, The Bet Las Vegas, Alt 107.5, TUDN Radio Las Vegas, ZonaMX 103.5 FM

Washington Nationals: MASN, Federal News Network, 106.7 The Fan, Acción 1060

 

There would be new national MLB broadcasters: During the regular season, Disney XD would make a youth-specific broadcast of Sunday Night Baseball, accompanying the traditional ESPN/ABC Sunday Night Baseball broadcasts, DAZN would replace FS1 as the new home of Monday Night MLB games, Cartoon Network would make a youth-specific Tuesday Night MLB broadcast in addition to the traditional TBS Tuesday Night MLB broadcasts, Prime Video would replace MLB Network (who would continue to broadcast national Thursday Night Baseball broadcasts) as the home for Wednesday Night Baseball, FOX/FS1 would continue to broadcast Saturday afternoon MLB games, while CBS and CBS Sports Network would broadcast Saturday night baseball games, with Nickelodeon making a youth-specific Saturday Night MLB brodcast.

 

Sunday afternoon games: NBC/Telemundo/Peacock

Sunday night games: ABC/Disney XD/ESPN/ESPN2/ESPN Deportes/ESPN+

Monday night games: DAZN

Tuesday night games: TBS/TNT/Cartoon Network/HBO Max

Wednesday night games: Prime Video

Thursday night games: MLB Network

Friday night games: Apple TV+

Saturday afternoon games: FOX/FS1/FOX Deportes/FOX+

Saturday night games: CBS/CBS Sports Network/Nickelodeon/Paramount+

 

There would be new broadcasters for the All-Star Weekend and the MLB Postseason: CBS would be the new home of the Major League Baseball All-Star Game, ESPN/ABC would retain rights to the American League Wild Card Series while Apple TV+ would handle rights to the National League Wild Card Series, FS1 would handle exclusive rights to one of the American League Division Series, while MLB Network would handle exclusive rights to one of the American League Division Series, TBS would handle exclusive rights to one of the National League Division Series, while DAZN would handle exclusive rights to one of the National League Division Series, TBS would continue to handle exclusive rights to the National League Championship Series, FOX/FS1 would handle exclusive rights to the American League Championship Series, in even numbered years. For odd numbered years, the rights for most of the Postseason (except for the World Series) are inverted. FOX would continue to be the home of the World Series.

 

Major League Baseball All-Star Futures Game: Peacock

Major League Baseball Home Run Derby: ESPN

Major League Baseball All-Star Game: CBS

American League Wild Card Series: ESPN/ABC (in even numbered years) / Apple TV+ (in odd numbered years)

National League Wild Card Series: Apple TV+ (in even numbered years) / ESPN/ABC (in odd numbered years)

American League Division Series: FS1/MLB Network (in even numbered years) / TBS/DAZN (in odd numbered years)

National League Division Series: TBS/DAZN (in even numbered years) / FS1/MLB Network (in odd numbered years)

American League Championship Series: FOX/FS1 (in even numbered years) / TBS (in odd numbered years)

National League Championship Series: TBS (in even numbered years) / FOX/FS1 (in odd numbered years)

World Series: FOX

[McCall]

14 hours ago, Marcos Flamengo said:

The MLB decides to expand to 36 teams.

 

AMERICAN LEAGUE

 

AL East: Baltimore Orioles, Boston Red Sox, Montreal Expos, New York Yankees, Tampa Bay Rays, Toronto Blue Jays

AL Central: Chicago White Sox, Cleveland Guardians, Detroit Tigers, Kansas City Royals, Minnesota Twins, Nashville Stars

AL West: Houston Astros, Los Angeles Angels, Oakland Athletics, Portland Beavers, Seattle Mariners, Texas Rangers

 

NATIONAL LEAGUE

 

NL East: Atlanta Braves, Miami Marlins, New York Mets, Orlando Whitecaps, Philadelphia Phillies, Washington Nationals

NL Central: Austin Razorblades, Chicago Cubs, Cincinnati Reds, Milwaukee Brewers, Pittsburgh Pirates, St. Louis Cardinals

NL West: Arizona Diamondbacks, Colorado Rockies, Los Angeles Dodgers, San Diego Padres, San Francisco Giants, Vegas Supernovas

 

These would be the regional broadcasters for all 36 MLB teams

 

AMERICAN LEAGUE

 

Baltimore Orioles: MASN, WBAL Newsradio 1090 AM & 101.5 FM, 98 Rock

Boston Red Sox: NESN, WEEI 93.7 FM

Chicago White Sox: NBC Sports Chicago, ESPN Chicago 1000 AM, Acción 95.5 HD3

Cleveland Guardians: Bally Sports Great Lakes, WKYC 3, Newsradio WTAM 1100 AM and 106.9 FM, Acción 99.5 HD3

Detroit Tigers: Bally Sports Detroit, The Bet Detroit, 97.1 The Ticket

Houston Astros: AT&T SportsNet Southwest, Sportstalk 790, Newsradio 740 KTRH, TUDN Radio Houston

Kansas City Royals: Bally Sports Kansas City, 610 Sports, 98.9 The Rock!

Los Angeles Angels: Bally Sports West, Bally Sports SoCal, KCOP 13, Angels Radio 830 AM, ESPN LA 710 AM, KLOS 2, Tu Liga Radio 1330 AM

Minnesota Twins: Bally Sports North, News/Talk 8•3•0 WCCO, 102.9 The Wolf, La Raza

Montreal Expos: Sportsnet, RDS, TSN 690, 91.9 Sports

Nashville Stars: AT&T SportsNet Southeast, Talkradio 98.3 & 1510, TUDN Radio Nashville

New York Yankees: YES Network, Prime Video, WFAN Sports Radio 66 AM and 101.9 FM, WADO 1280 AM

Oakland Athletics: Bloomberg 960 and 103.7 HD2, iHeartRadio's A's Cast, El Patrón 990 AM, 1010 AM & 103.7-HD3

Portland Beavers: Bally Sports Northwest,

Seattle Mariners

Tampa Bay Rays

Texas Rangers

Toronto Blue Jays

 

There would be new national MLB broadcasters: During the regular season, Disney XD would make a youth-specific broadcast of Sunday Night Baseball, accompanying the traditional ESPN/ABC Sunday Night Baseball broadcasts, DAZN would replace FS1 as the new home of Monday Night MLB games, Cartoon Network would make a youth-specific Tuesday Night MLB broadcast in addition to the traditional TBS Tuesday Night MLB broadcasts, Prime Video would replace MLB Network (who would continue to broadcast national Thursday Night Baseball broadcasts) as the home for Wednesday Night Baseball, FOX/FS1 would continue to broadcast Saturday afternoon MLB games, while CBS and CBS Sports Network would broadcast Saturday night baseball games, with Nickelodeon making a youth-specific Saturday Night MLB brodcast.

 

Sunday afternoon games: NBC/Telemundo/Peacock

Sunday night games: ABC/Disney XD/ESPN/ESPN2/ESPN Deportes/ESPN+

Monday night games: DAZN

Tuesday night games: TBS/TNT/Cartoon Network/HBO Max

Wednesday night games: Prime Video

Thursday night games: MLB Network

Friday night games: Apple TV+

Saturday afternoon games: FOX/FS1/FOX Deportes/FOX+

Saturday night games: CBS/CBS Sports Network/Nickelodeon/Paramount+

 

There would be new broadcasters for the All-Star Weekend and the MLB Postseason: CBS would be the new home of the Major League Baseball All-Star Game, ESPN/ABC would retain rights to the American League Wild Card Series while Apple TV+ would handle rights to the National League Wild Card Series, FS1 would handle exclusive rights to one of the American League Division Series, while MLB Network would handle exclusive rights to one of the American League Division Series, TBS would handle exclusive rights to one of the National League Division Series, while DAZN would handle exclusive rights to one of the National League Division Series, TBS would continue to handle exclusive rights to the National League Championship Series, FOX/FS1 would handle exclusive rights to the American League Championship Series, in even numbered years. For odd numbered years, the rights for most of the Postseason (except for the World Series) are inverted. FOX would continue to be the home of the World Series.

 

Major League Baseball All-Star Futures Game: Peacock

Major League Baseball Home Run Derby: ESPN

Major League Baseball All-Star Game: CBS

American League Wild Card Series: ESPN/ABC (in even numbered years) / Apple TV+ (in odd numbered years)

National League Wild Card Series: Apple TV+ (in even numbered years) / ESPN/ABC (in odd numbered years)

American League Division Series: FS1/MLB Network (in even numbered years) / TBS/DAZN (in odd numbered years)

National League Division Series: TBS/DAZN (in even numbered years) / FS1/MLB Network (in odd numbered years)

American League Championship Series: FOX/FS1 (in even numbered years) / TBS (in odd numbered years)

National League Championship Series: TBS (in even numbered years) / FOX/FS1 (in odd numbered years)

World Series: FOX

Austin Razorblades?

[ManillaToad]

36-team NHL +4 renamings & 1 relocation (sorry 'Yotes)

 

Here's a map of the teams, because I like visuals a lot more than lists

Spoiler

 

Bold: New franchise

Italics: Renamed franchise

Bold italics: Relocated franchise

 

EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic Division:

Carolina Hurricanes, Florida Panthers, New Jersey Devils, New York Islanders, New York Rangers, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Tampa Bay Lightning, Washington Capitals

 

Metropolitan Division:

Buffalo Sabres, Boston Bruins, Columbus Blue Jackets, Detroit Red Wings, Hamilton Tigers, Montreal Canadiens, Ottawa Senators, Quebec Nordiques, Toronto Maple Leafs

 

WESTERN CONFERENCE            

Central Division:

Chicago Blackhawks, Dallas Lone Stars, Houston Apollos, Indianapolis Racers, Kansas City Scouts, Minnesota North Stars, Nashville Predators, St. Louis Blues, Winnipeg Jets

 

Pacific Division:

Calgary Flames, Colorado Avalanche, Edmonton Oilers, Los Angeles Kings, Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, San Jose Sharks, Seattle Sockeyes, Vancouver Canucks, Vegas Golden Knights