buzzcut Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) Some people have some weird ideas for realignments and get too serious. Why can't it be like the first dozen or so pages? I'd go through and 'like' most of them, but it would be weird up-voting stuff that's three years old. I read them for laughter's sake You mean like this:GREATER UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:Benjamin Franklin ConferencePierre Trudeau DivisionQuébèc(expansion state)MichiganNew MexicoVirgin Islands(expansion state)Rhode IslandSouth DakotaHawai'iMississippiAndrew Jackson DivisionTennesseeAlaskaWisconsinSaskatchewan(expansion state)ColoradoNova Scotia(expansion state)DelawareOklahomaGeorge Washington ConferenceTheodore Roosevelt DivisionNew JerseyMinnesotaIdahoArkansasPrince Edward Island(expansion state)OregonSouth CarolinaVermontFranklin Delano Roosevelt DivisionNew YorkKansasBahamas(expansion state)British Columbia(expansion state)UtahMaineIndianaLouisianaAbraham Lincoln ConferenceThomas Jefferson DivisionPennsylvaniaWashington StateFloridaManitoba(expansion state)ArizonaNorth DakotaNew HampshireWest VirginiaJohn Adams DivisionMassachusettsVirginiaNewfoundland(expansion state)Puerto Rico(expansion stateIllinoisWyomingNebraskaNevadaJohn F. Kennedy ConferenceRichard Nixon DivisionCaliforniaOhioConnecticutAlberta(expansion state)AlabamaNew Brunswick(expansion state)IowaMarylandLester B. Pearson DivisionOntario(expansion state)TexasDistrict of Columbia(expansion state)KentuckyMissouriMontanaGeorgiaNorth CarolinaFuture expansion:CubaJamaicaBermudaGuamYukonNunavutNorthwest TerritoriesGreenland Edited September 15, 2013 by buzzcut Quote The CCSLC's resident Geelong Cats fan. Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends. Sounds like something from a Rocky & Bullwinkle story arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Western Conference (7-Team Divisions) Within Conference (Division): 29 games * 5 games vs. five teams (3 Home/2 Away vs. two teams, 2 Home/3 Away vs. three teams) AND 4 games vs. one team (2 Home/2 Away). Teams rotated on a yearly basis. * 5 X 5 =25 games * 1 X 4 = 4 games Within Conference (Non-Division): 21 games * 3 games vs. each team (2 Home/1 Away vs. four teams, 1 Home/2 Away vs. three teams). Teams rotated on a yearly basis. * 3 X 7 = 21 games Non-Conference: 32 games * 2 games vs. each team (1 Home/1 Away) * 2 X 16 = 32 games (Exception: one team from each division plays one less game inside Division and one more game inside Conference outside Division) Eastern Conference (8-Team Divisions) Within Conference (Division): 30 games * 5 games vs. two teams (3 Home/2 Away vs. one team, 2 Home/3 Away vs. one team) AND 4 games vs. five teams (2 Home/2 Away). Teams rotated on a yearly basis. * 5 X 2 =10 games * 4 X 5 = 20 games Within Conference (Non-Division): 24 games * 3 games vs. each team (2 Home/1 Away vs. four teams, 1 Home/2 Away vs. four teams). Teams rotated on a yearly basis. * 3 X 8 = 24 games Non-Conference: 28 games * 2 games vs. each team (1 Home/1 Away) * 2 X 14 = 28 games The Stanley Cup Playoffs have a new division-based format. Playoff qualification will be primarily Division-based, with the top three finishers in each Division qualifying for the first 12 spots in the Stanley Cup Playoffs (and the first three "seeds" in each Division). The two additional playoff spots in each Conference, designated as "Wild Cards," will be awarded to the next two highest-placed finishers in each Conference, ranked on the basis of regular-season points and regardless of Division. The League will play under this new alignment and playoff system for a minimum of three seasons, through the 2015-16 NHL season. See, if I proposed this inscrutable wall of crap, McCall would tell me it's a terrible idea. And he'd be right! Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Penguin Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Western Conference (7-Team Divisions)Within Conference (Division): 29 games* 5 games vs. five teams (3 Home/2 Away vs. two teams, 2 Home/3 Away vs. three teams) AND 4 games vs. one team (2 Home/2 Away). Teams rotated on a yearly basis.* 5 X 5 =25 games* 1 X 4 = 4 gamesWithin Conference (Non-Division): 21 games* 3 games vs. each team (2 Home/1 Away vs. four teams, 1 Home/2 Away vs. three teams). Teams rotated on a yearly basis.* 3 X 7 = 21 gamesNon-Conference: 32 games* 2 games vs. each team (1 Home/1 Away)* 2 X 16 = 32 games(Exception: one team from each division plays one less game inside Division and one more game inside Conference outside Division)Eastern Conference (8-Team Divisions)Within Conference (Division): 30 games* 5 games vs. two teams (3 Home/2 Away vs. one team, 2 Home/3 Away vs. one team) AND 4 games vs. five teams (2 Home/2 Away). Teams rotated on a yearly basis.* 5 X 2 =10 games* 4 X 5 = 20 gamesWithin Conference (Non-Division): 24 games* 3 games vs. each team (2 Home/1 Away vs. four teams, 1 Home/2 Away vs. four teams). Teams rotated on a yearly basis.* 3 X 8 = 24 gamesNon-Conference: 28 games* 2 games vs. each team (1 Home/1 Away)* 2 X 14 = 28 gamesThe Stanley Cup Playoffs have a new division-based format. Playoff qualification will be primarily Division-based, with the top three finishers in each Division qualifying for the first 12 spots in the Stanley Cup Playoffs (and the first three "seeds" in each Division). The two additional playoff spots in each Conference, designated as "Wild Cards," will be awarded to the next two highest-placed finishers in each Conference, ranked on the basis of regular-season points and regardless of Division. The League will play under this new alignment and playoff system for a minimum of three seasons, through the 2015-16 NHL season.A few things:-Mistake in Western Conference Divisional games (too many or uneven home/away games)-The Inter-Conference formula is currently being used by the NHL-The playoff format is similar to the current format, except for the cross-over in the first round*Begin by eliminating 58 games (29H, 29A) for every team. This is most important, but if you want the schedule to last 82 games, then add 24 games (12H, 12A) for each team. I'm only interested in these 24 games.If you thought of this without looking at the new NHL schedule format, I'm very impressed. Very close, but you avoided 4-game (2H, 2A) Divisional series for both conferences for some reason (stick with even series as much as you can). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Penguin Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Any time we post a schedule format, the league alignment is set. Post the league alignment for easier reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=678238 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Penguin Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 The question is whether the current league alignment is the best fit for the sacred 82-game schedule (obviously the league alignment is worth less to the league than having an 82-game schedule/team).With a 30-team, 2-conference alignment, the obvious issue concerns whether a disparity in total divisional games per team matters. What's more important to the NHL, "having two conferences" or that "the total number of divisional games is different between two of the four divisions?"By creating a 16/14 split in conferences, the league has acknowledged the importance of divisional disparity within the league at the expense of the difficulty one team in the East will have in making the playoffs. Geographical proximity (traditional rivalry, not "travel distance") reasons obviously trump fairness in playoff viability because the East will play more divisional games. The Eastern teams are closer geographically to each other than Western teams) and compete against one more team than Western teams for the playoffs.The NHL has created two leagues. West and East. BTW, if the NHL added 4 games to the schedule per team and moved one East team West (say Panthers to Kansas City), with two 15-team leagues, all teams could play 1H, 1A Inter-Conference and 2H, 2A Intra-Conference...and we could be rid of divisions altogether.I do like that DET and CBJ are in the East with TOR and PGH, but I hate that there is so much uncertainty in whether teams will relocate, contract, that some teams have no fans while Quebec City and cities with new arenas have no teams...basically uncertainty and lack of information. This is how I've overcome the fact that I'll never play in the NHL...I'm an authority on this stuff (and hockey is just as pointless, honestly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzcut Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Speaking of pointless, here's an alignment on a pointless sport, Pigball:American Pigball Premiership(The first division)Allentown UnitedPC BirminghamBoston Rovers PCBoston UnionBrooklyn CityChicago West EndPC DenverGeorgetown United(DC)Green Bay Legends PCHawai'i AllianceHollywood Town PCPC Kansas CityMemphis PCVilla MiamiNew York ScotchPhiladelphia 1776St. Paul CitySan Jose City PCWashington City PCWinnipeg PCAmerican Pigball Championship(The 2nd division)PC AlbuquerqueAtlanta Fire PCChicago South PCPC ClevelandDallas CityDetroit PCHamilton HammersHartford PCHouston La RazaIndianapolis 16Los Angeles CityLouisville PCMilwaukee Bavarian PCClub d'Etoile du MinneapolisCastors du MontréalNashville Gulch PCNew Orleans PCOklahoma City 1937Phoenix CityQueens PCSan Jose UnitedSeattle Sonics PCTampa CityToronto LakesidePigball League 1(The 3rd division)Arch PC(St. Louis)Baltimore Pompei PCBuffalo Falls PCCamden County PCCincinnati UnitedColorado Springs CityDurham United PCPC EdmontonFall River CityIllinois Center PC(Plays in Peoria)Johnstown PCKalamazoo UnionLas Vegas PCMadison PCMontana Frontier PCOmaha CityOrlando PCPittsburgh SteelRose City United(Portland)San Antonio PCSan Francisco Seven HillsVancouver UnitedVermont 1791Wichita UnitedPigball League Two(The 4th division)Anaheim Sun PCCalgary UnitedCapitol Region PC(Plays in Albany)Charlestown Freedom PC(Boston)Charlotte United PCDayton 1903Detroit Motor CityFargo CityFort Myers Town PCFort Worth UnitedGreensboro BeesIdaho PCJacksonville TownLansing UnitedNewark CityNorfolk CityOakland DocksOld Towne(Philadelphia)Palmetto Legion(Columbia, SC)San Diego CitySyracuse Scorpions PCTucson CityUtah 1896Worcester CityThose are your first 4 levels of American Pigball(yes, I'm doing Promotion and Relegation, just don't remind me of how bad it is). If your city and/or region isn't listed in this post, don't worry, I've got 4 more levels to go.EDIT: I had 21 teams in the Premiership(Sorry, Tulsa). Edited September 17, 2013 by buzzcut 1 Quote The CCSLC's resident Geelong Cats fan. Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends. Sounds like something from a Rocky & Bullwinkle story arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS729 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Speaking of pointless, here's an alignment on a pointless sport, Pigball:American Pigball Premiership(The first division)Allentown UnitedPC BirminghamBoston Rovers PCBoston UnionBrooklyn CityChicago West EndPC DenverGeorgetown United(DC)Green Bay Legends PCHawai'i AllianceHollywood Town PCPC Kansas CityMemphis PCVilla MiamiNew York ScotchPhiladelphia 1776St. Paul CitySan Jose City PCWashington City PCWinnipeg PCAmerican Pigball Championship(The 2nd division)PC AlbuquerqueAtlanta Fire PCChicago South PCPC ClevelandDallas CityDetroit PCHamilton HammersHartford PCHouston La RazaIndianapolis 16Los Angeles CityLouisville PCMilwaukee Bavarian PCClub d'Etoile du MinneapolisCastors du MontréalNashville Gulch PCNew Orleans PCOklahoma City 1937Phoenix CityQueens PCSan Jose UnitedSeattle Sonics PCTampa CityToronto LakesidePigball League 1(The 3rd division)Arch PC(St. Louis)Baltimore Pompei PCBuffalo Falls PCCamden County PCCincinnati UnitedColorado Springs CityDurham United PCPC EdmontonFall River CityIllinois Center PC(Plays in Peoria)Johnstown PCKalamazoo UnionLas Vegas PCMadison PCMontana Frontier PCOmaha CityOrlando PCPittsburgh SteelRose City United(Portland)San Antonio PCSan Francisco Seven HillsVancouver UnitedVermont 1791Wichita UnitedPigball League Two(The 4th division)Anaheim Sun PCCalgary UnitedCapitol Region PC(Plays in Albany)Charlestown Freedom PC(Boston)Charlotte United PCDayton 1903Detroit Motor CityFargo CityFort Myers Town PCFort Worth UnitedGreensboro BeesIdaho PCJacksonville TownLansing UnitedNewark CityNorfolk CityOakland DocksOld Towne(Philadelphia)Palmetto Legion(Columbia, SC)San Diego CitySyracuse Scorpions PCTucson CityUtah 1896Worcester CityThose are your first 4 levels of American Pigball(yes, I'm doing Promotion and Relegation, just don't remind me of how bad it is). If your city and/or region isn't listed in this post, don't worry, I've got 4 more levels to go.EDIT: I had 21 teams in the Premiership(Sorry, Tulsa).Cool story bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzcut Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Cool story bro.You probably didn't realize that Pigball is not a real sport Quote The CCSLC's resident Geelong Cats fan. Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends. Sounds like something from a Rocky & Bullwinkle story arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Penguin Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Did you refer to a list of cities by population to determine which cities were in each pigball league? I think the forgotten aspect of fake sports leagues is the influence of history on the shape of the league, colors, and names of the teams.Where did the league start? Which teams have survived the longest? What's the story behind defunct franchises in relation to events (real or fake) in history?What's pigball? Is it played in cold weather or warm? Shouldn't there be more teams in the North if it's played in the fall? Stadiums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzcut Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Are you ready for the fifth through eighth levels of American Pigball? No, too bad buckaroo, I'm doing it anyway.The Pigball ConferenceBillings CityBrooklyn Borough PCBuffalo Central PCChicago Wrigleyville PCPC Columbus(Ohio)Davenport & Moline UnitedDes Moines AthleticFresno PCGrand Rapids PCJackson United(Mississippi)Kitchener ClubKnoxville CityMacon TownNantucket Memorial PCNorth End PC(St. Paul, MN)Orange County Surf ClubPittsfield CityPuerto Rico UnitedRhode Island Plantation PCSouth Texas PCTulsa PCVictoria Kingfish PCWhite Plains PCWilmington 1787The Pigball Conference 2Aroostook Union(Maine)Atlanta HeritageBaton Rouge PCCanton BulldogsColorado Springs CityDallas Fair ParkVilla El PasoFlint PCGatineau VilleGolden Coast PC(Ventura, CA)Gulf Coast Gamblers(Biloxi, MS)Iron Range United(Hibbing, MN)Langley Town(British Columbia)Manchester Arsenal(New Hampshire)Modesto PCNorth BronxOttawa Fabulous FifteenRochester Kodak(New York)Salisbury CitySouth Missouri PCTallahassee UnitedTrenton UnitedUtica LasersWyoming PCPigball Conference 3(Seventh level split into regional leagues)Eastern SectorBahamas National TeamBinghamton TownBoston WestDayton City PCDuluth-Superior TwinsErie UnitedFrankfort RacersGreenville Union(South Carolina)Lake Superior UnitedLancaster 1776(Pennsylvania)Morgantown CityNew Haven PCPensacola TwistPhiladelphia Suburbs PCVille de QuébècRichmond CitySouthern Maine UnitedToronto CroatiaWashington RoversWilliamsport UnitedWestern SectorAmarillo UnitedArkansas PCBakersfield UnitedCarson City PCColumbia Jefferson PCDenton PCCD East Los AngelesInland EmpireLethbridge PCLogan TownManhattan City(Kansas)Menlo United PCMidland RuffnecksRapid City MonumentsRegina City UnitedScottsdale CitySpokane FallsTacoma PCTijuana FieroWenatchee ValleyPigball Conference Four(The eighth level of professional pigball, split into four regional leagues)Northeast SectorAkron UnitedBarrie Loyalist PCBowie TownCharleston Charlies(WV)Coney Island PCEast Kentucky Mining ClubEvansville UnitedHarrisburg Capitol CityLondon ClashNew Britain PCNorthern VirginiaPoughkeepskie UnitedSouthern Suburbs PC(Illinois)Spring Garden District PCSpringfield Fame PC(Massachusetts)Staten IslandSouthern SectorAsheville Mountain PCAugusta National PCBowling Green UnitedCharleston Battery(South Carolina)Chattanooga CityFort Lauderdale StarsJackson PC(Tennessee)Liberty Town United(Miami)Montgomery TownMyrtle Beach BumsPalm Beach UnitedPensacola UnitedRaleigh CityRoanoke UnitedSarasota Suns PCTalladega PCCentral SectorCS Cedar RapidsCorpus Christ BayDubuque TownFrisco FireHighland Park United(St. Paul)Houston Aeros PCJoplin TownLas Cruces UnidosLincoln Capitol TownMankato UnitedOverland Park TownPine BluffPueblo CityRochester Docs(Minnesota)St. Joseph CityStillwater 1890(Oklahoma)Pacific SectorBellingham TownCedar City LasersCentral Oregon UnitedFlagstaffIdaho Falls PCKern CountyLong Beach UnitedMonterey Peninsula TripletsMoose Jaw CityRed Deer OutrageReno CitySacramento UnitedSouth Oregon CowboysVancouver Island UnitedYakima ValleyYuma VillaThere you have it, the entire 244-team pyramid of professional pigball in North America. There are 32 smaller regional-pro and amateur leagues, but I won't go over those levels as I did here. Quote The CCSLC's resident Geelong Cats fan. Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends. Sounds like something from a Rocky & Bullwinkle story arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS729 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Cool story bro.You probably didn't realize that Pigball is not a real sport You probably didn't realize that anybody cared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C's Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 stuffOh my god! Keep it to yourself! This is a serious realignment thread for serious realignment proposals only! Thank you!The nerve of some people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Penguin Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 North, South, and West: The historical, traditional regions of the United States.Debate: Texas, Missouri, and Virginia. Historical "realignment" complainants.Is this too weird? I'll give you another thing...USA North=Europe/N America/India/Russia/N AfricaUSA South=Africa/South AmericaUSA West=Indonesia/China/Australia/Japan"North" and "South" are closer to each other than either are to "West." West, however is closest to South.The "capitals" of each region:World North: Between Zagreb and LjubljanaWorld South: LagosWorld West: JakartaUSA North: ColumbusUSA South: MobileUSA West: SacramentoThe fractalized world capital: Lagos, Nigeria; the corresponding USA capital: Mobile, Alabama.Glad to get that off my chest. ..(Math that I won't bother you with) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 max, you had us fooled for awhile with your, still long, ramblings, but they were at least more on topic and not as strange. But now, your true colors are gradually leaking through with each post you make. Congrats however. You had us for a bit there. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Penguin Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Is there a mathematical term for the concept riki introduced last november?I can't think of anything other than "closest geographical neighbor."My geek above uses the concept for national capitals for countries and my ideas of geographical and inherent regions after observing the "closest geographical neighbors" concept to a few North American sports leagues.Like a Voronoi map, but stipulates that every point must be paired with its neighbor in one group. Sizes of groups are exponential; number of points on the map = about 3x number of groups.After determining a group (point A, point A's neighbor, and if point A's neighbor is closest to point A -close group; if point A's neighbor is not closest to point A, expand group until all points are paired with closest neighbor), the one (in a group of 3, sometimes 4, etc.) point that is "closest neighbor" to the most points in a group is determined "representative" (of the group). If two share the most "closest neighbors" in a group, take midpoint and determine midpoint as "representative." If three share the most "closest neighbors" (in a group with more than 5 points, kind of rare; remember, Bell's Curve is represented in sizes [number of points] of groups), three points will be run through as if there were no other points (i.e. eliminate other points in group) to determine "representative." If there are four that share the most "closest neighbors"...well, that hasn't happened yet (just eliminate other points in group).You'll be left with 1/3 of original group. Run again until there is one point left (this will usually be a midpoint of a midpoint determined earlier). The end result, after you've grouped all the groups back together, is pretty cool. Basically, you are left with a sports league structure with divisions and conferences. You can expect two or three conferences with two or three divisions per conference and each point will be in a division with its closest neighbor (and the neighbor with its closest neighbor, etc.)geomidpoint.comdistancefromto.net (.net? .com?)This can help determine inherent "groups" in a system or inherent regions on a map. I use this to determine that Lagos is the "capital," but really, the final point is just off the coast of Lagos in the ocean, Lagos just happens to be the closest point to the final point, same goes for Mobile (actually northwest). Oh, and that "USA is split into North, South, and West regions" comes from running this program (Excel) for 125 college football teams (no wonder Mobile* was found to be the final point and not somewhere in Missouri - Southern Missouri has no teams in the FBS).The question this poses: Would you rather have an odd number of conferences/grossly unbalanced groups by number of teams per group (divisions or conferences) or be ensured that geographical rivals are in the same division and the divisions are logically constructed (not by forcing "not East" and "not West" teams into a "Central Division")?This can also help determine which leagues should separate into conferences. This method probably works best for leagues of many small-market/amateur teams, like college sports, the PDL (soccer), and junior hockey, because teams cannot afford to travel very far, but need to play as many teams as possible for any ranking procedure to be reliable (take college football; it's unfair that a team has to play, perhaps on the road, one game against their rival because there are 7 other teams in the conference [ain't no team going to play 7H 7A games against divisional opponents], so smaller divisions, like the NFL's 4-team divisions, are more fair). The NFL run through this process reveals divisions made up of 2-8 teams. Obviously the 8-team "DEN KC STL IND CHI CIN GB MIN Division" would have a different schedule than other divisions, and this would be at the mercy of tiebreaking procedures.Graphing>College-Ruled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yep, max. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I would hang out with max in real life if I were accompanied by someone who could inject him with Haldol in case he tried to attack me. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Plus the fact that max is evidently so demented that he doesn't remember when he was posting under each account. "riki" didn't exist in November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 On the bright side, I have a bad back and reading through his last couple posts, I think I can fall asleep now. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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