The Pointless Realignment Outpost

[neo_prankster]

Another pointless NHL Alignment

CLARENCE CAMPBELL CONFERENCE

SMYTHE

Anaheim Ducks

Calgary Flames

Edmonton Oilers

Los Angeles Kings

Phoenix Roadrunners

San Jose Sharks

Seattle Totems

Vancouver Canucks

NORRIS

Chicago Blackhawks

Colorado Avalanche

Detroit Red Wings

Houston Aeros

Indianapolis Racers

Minnesota North Stars

St. Louis Blues

Winnipeg Jets

PRINCE OF WALES CONFERENCE

ADAMS

Boston Bruins

Buffalo Sabres

Cleveland Barons

Montreal Canadiens

Ottawa Senators

Quebec Nordiques

Pittsburgh Penguins

Toronto Maple Leafs

PATRICK

Carolina Hurricanes

Hartford Whalers

New Jersey Devils

New York Islanders

New York Rangers

Philadelphia Flyers

Tampa Bay Lightning

Washington Capitals

I like this although Milwaukee should be in there (maybe at Indianapolis's extent)

NORRIS

Chicago Blackhawks

Colorado Avalanche

Detroit Red Wings

Houston Aeros

Milwaukee Admirals

Minnesota North Stars

St. Louis Blues

Winnipeg Jets

How's this?

[jlog3000]

After seeing the previous posts, I like the Milwaukee one in the Norris Division. However, no "sections"? You know, 2 4-team sub-divisions?

I would group like this:

1. - Campbell Conference:

1.1. - Smythe Division:

1.1.1. - Northwest: Calgary/Edmonton/Vancouver/Seattle

1.1.2. - Pacific: Anaheim/LA Kings/Phoenix/San Jose

1.2. - Norris Division:

1.2.1. - Central: Chicago/Detroit/Milwaukee/St. Louis

1.2.2. - Midwest: Colorado/Houston/Minnesota/Winnipeg

2. - Wales Conference:

2.1. - Adams Division:

2.1.1. - Northeast: Boston/Buffalo/Quebec/Montreal

2.1.2. - Mideast: Cleveland/Ottawa/Pittsburgh/Toronto

2.2. - Patrick Division:

2.2.1. - Atlantic: Hartford/NJ Devils/NY Islanders/NY Rangers

2.2.2. - Southeast: Carolina/Philadelphia/Tampa Bay/Washington

Any thoughts?

[neo_prankster]

After seeing the previous posts, I like the Milwaukee one in the Norris Division. However, no "sections"? You know, 2 4-team sub-divisions?

I would group like this:

1. - Campbell Conference:

1.1. - Smythe Division:

1.1.1. - Northwest: Calgary/Edmonton/Vancouver/Seattle

1.1.2. - Pacific: Anaheim/LA Kings/Phoenix/San Jose

1.2. - Norris Division:

1.2.1. - Central: Chicago/Detroit/Milwaukee/St. Louis

1.2.2. - Midwest: Colorado/Houston/Minnesota/Winnipeg

2. - Wales Conference:

2.1. - Adams Division:

2.1.1. - Northeast: Boston/Buffalo/Quebec/Montreal

2.1.2. - Mideast: Cleveland/Ottawa/Pittsburgh/Toronto

2.2. - Patrick Division:

2.2.1. - Atlantic: Hartford/NJ Devils/NY Islanders/NY Rangers

2.2.2. - Southeast: Carolina/Philadelphia/Tampa Bay/Washington

Any thoughts?

Very nice. The Campbell looks good but I'd do the Wales like this...

NE: Buffalo/Montreal/Ottawa/Toronto

Mid: Boston/Cleveland/Hartford/Pittsburgh

Atlantic: Devils/Rangers/Islanders/Flyers

SE: Carolina/Tampa/Washington/Either Atlanta, Nashville or Florida

[JayMac]

After seeing the previous posts, I like the Milwaukee one in the Norris Division. However, no "sections"? You know, 2 4-team sub-divisions?

I would group like this:

1. - Campbell Conference:

1.1. - Smythe Division:

1.1.1. - Northwest: Calgary/Edmonton/Vancouver/Seattle

1.1.2. - Pacific: Anaheim/LA Kings/Phoenix/San Jose

1.2. - Norris Division:

1.2.1. - Central: Chicago/Detroit/Milwaukee/St. Louis

1.2.2. - Midwest: Colorado/Houston/Minnesota/Winnipeg

2. - Wales Conference:

2.1. - Adams Division:

2.1.1. - Northeast: Boston/Buffalo/Quebec/Montreal

2.1.2. - Mideast: Cleveland/Ottawa/Pittsburgh/Toronto

2.2. - Patrick Division:

2.2.1. - Atlantic: Hartford/NJ Devils/NY Islanders/NY Rangers

2.2.2. - Southeast: Carolina/Philadelphia/Tampa Bay/Washington

Any thoughts?

The Flyers have to play with the Rangers, Devils, and Islanders.

[jlog3000]

The Flyers have to play with the Rangers, Devils, and Islanders.

I sincerely agree. So I go re-modify like this:

1. - Campbell Conference:

1.1. - Smythe Division:

1.1.1. - Northwest: Calgary/Edmonton/Vancouver/Seattle

1.1.2. - Pacific: Anaheim/LA Kings/Phoenix/San Jose

1.2. - Norris Division:

1.2.1. - Central: Chicago/Detroit/Milwaukee/St. Louis

1.2.2. - Midwest: Colorado/Houston/Minnesota/Winnipeg

2. - Wales Conference:

2.1. - Adams Division:

2.1.1. - Northeast: Boston/Buffalo/Quebec/Montreal

2.1.2. - Mideast: Cleveland/Ottawa/Pittsburgh/Toronto

2.2. - Patrick Division:

2.2.1. - Atlantic: Philadelphia/NJ Devils/NY Islanders/NY Rangers

2.2.2. - Southeast: Carolina/Florida/Tampa Bay/Washington

Plus, I have other possibilities based on my division alignment format.

[Telemundo219]

Another pointless NHL Alignment

CLARENCE CAMPBELL CONFERENCE

SMYTHE

Anaheim Ducks

Calgary Flames

Edmonton Oilers

Los Angeles Kings

Phoenix Roadrunners

San Jose Sharks

Seattle Totems

Vancouver Canucks

NORRIS

Chicago Blackhawks

Colorado Avalanche

Detroit Red Wings

Houston Aeros

Indianapolis Racers

Minnesota North Stars

St. Louis Blues

Winnipeg Jets

PRINCE OF WALES CONFERENCE

ADAMS

Boston Bruins

Buffalo Sabres

Cleveland Barons

Montreal Canadiens

Ottawa Senators

Quebec Nordiques

Pittsburgh Penguins

Toronto Maple Leafs

PATRICK

Carolina Hurricanes

Hartford Whalers

New Jersey Devils

New York Islanders

New York Rangers

Philadelphia Flyers

Tampa Bay Lightning

Washington Capitals

I like this although Milwaukee should be in there (maybe at Indianapolis's extent)

NORRIS

Chicago Blackhawks

Colorado Avalanche

Detroit Red Wings

Houston Aeros

Milwaukee Admirals

Minnesota North Stars

St. Louis Blues

Winnipeg Jets

How's this?

That's cool.

[neo_prankster]

Pointless NBA Alignment

Western Conference

PACIFIC
Golden State Warriors

LA Clippers

LA Lakers

Phoenix Suns

Portland Trailblazers

Sacramento Kings

Seattle Supersonics (Expansion)

MIDWEST
Dallas Mavericks

Denver Nuggets

Houston Rockets

Memphis Grizzlies

Minnesota Timberwolves

Oklahoma City Thunder

San Antonio Spurs

Utah Jazz

Eastern Conference

CENTRAL
Atlanta Hawks

Chicago Bulls

Cleveland Cavaliers

Detroit Pistons

Indiana Pacers

Milwaukee Bucks

New Orleans Pelicans

Toronto Raptors

ATLANTIC

Boston Celtics

Brooklyn Nets

Charlotte Hornets

Miami Heat

New York Knicks

Orlando Magic

Philadelphia 76ers

Washington (Something other than Wizards)

[jlog3000]

Pointless NBA Alignment

Western Conference

PACIFIC

Golden State Warriors

LA Clippers

LA Lakers

Phoenix Suns

Portland Trailblazers

Sacramento Kings

Seattle Supersonics (Expansion)

MIDWEST

Dallas Mavericks

Denver Nuggets

Houston Rockets

Memphis Grizzlies

Minnesota Timberwolves

Oklahoma City Thunder

San Antonio Spurs

Utah Jazz

Eastern Conference

CENTRAL

Atlanta Hawks

Chicago Bulls

Cleveland Cavaliers

Detroit Pistons

Indiana Pacers

Milwaukee Bucks

New Orleans Pelicans

Toronto Raptors

ATLANTIC

Boston Celtics

Brooklyn Nets

Charlotte Hornets

Miami Heat

New York Knicks

Orlando Magic

Philadelphia 76ers

Washington (Something other than Wizards)

Nice format, nearly much like the same one from 1996 to almost to 2004 (way before the Charlotte Bobcats joined). But you forgot the 32nd possible expansion team for having to represent the Pacific Division. You have the Seattle SuperSonics (as a return team, but from scratch). But how about another team, but from Vancouver (except having the Grizzlies name since it belongs to Memphis, franchise-wise)? And good thing that you put the new Charlotte Hornets as part of the Atlantic Division since it's more near to the other Atlantic teams instead of those from its former division (the Central Division) as well as having Oklahoma City as part of the Midwest Division.

Edited March 25, 2014 by jlog3000

[Saint Zephyr III]

For giggles, I think the following would work a bit better:

ATLANTIC

Brooklyn Nets

Philadelphia 76ers

Boston Celtics

Orlando Magic

Washington Wizards

New York Knicks

Miami Heat

Charlotte Hornets

The Atlantic Division of old is kept intact except for the addition of the reincarnated Charlotte Hornets.

CENTRAL

Detroit Pistons

Indiana Pacers

Milwaukee Bucks

Memphis Grizzlies

Chicago Bulls

Toronto Raptors

Cleveland Cavaliers

Atlanta Hawks

Switching out New Orleans with Memphis for geographical reasons.

MIDWEST

San Antonio Spurs

Dallas Mavericks

Minnesota Timberwolves

Utah Jazz

Houston Rockets

New Orleans Pelicans

Denver Nuggets

Oklahoma Thunder

Curiously, this setup creates two mini-divisions within the same division: the modern Southwest teams versus the Midwest teams.

PACIFIC

Sacramento Kings

LA Lakers

LA Clippers

Portland Supersonics

Phoenix Suns

Seattle Supersonics

Golden State Warriors

San Jose Startups

Not only does this makes sense for the future Seattle team but, for me personally, the next NBA expansion is going to be on the western side of the continent. It'll either be Las Vegas, San Jose, or even longshots like San Diego and Vancouver.

[jlog3000]

For giggles, I think the following would work a bit better:

ATLANTIC

Brooklyn Nets

Philadelphia 76ers

Boston Celtics

Orlando Magic

Washington Wizards

New York Knicks

Miami Heat

Charlotte Hornets

The Atlantic Division of old is kept intact except for the addition of the reincarnated Charlotte Hornets.

CENTRAL

Detroit Pistons

Indiana Pacers

Milwaukee Bucks

Memphis Grizzlies

Chicago Bulls

Toronto Raptors

Cleveland Cavaliers

Atlanta Hawks

Switching out New Orleans with Memphis for geographical reasons.

MIDWEST

San Antonio Spurs

Dallas Mavericks

Minnesota Timberwolves

Utah Jazz

Houston Rockets

New Orleans Pelicans

Denver Nuggets

Oklahoma Thunder

Curiously, this setup creates two mini-divisions within the same division: the modern Southwest teams versus the Midwest teams.

PACIFIC

Sacramento Kings

LA Lakers

LA Clippers

Portland Supersonics

Phoenix Suns

Seattle Supersonics

Golden State Warriors

Las Vegas Sharks

Not only does this makes sense for the future Seattle team but, for me personally, the next NBA expansion is going to be on the western side of the continent. It'll either be Las Vegas, San Jose, or even longshots like San Diego and Vancouver.

Interesting on how you put Memphis in the East while putting New Orleans in the West. Geographically, sounds truly logic. But like the mini-division idea, which it should be like this:

1. - Eastern Conference:

1.1. - Atlantic Division:

1.1.1. - Northeast: Boston, Brooklyn, N.Y. Knicks, Philadelphia

1.1.2. - Southeast: Miami, Orlando, Charlotte, Washington

1.2. - Central Division:

1.2.1. - Great Lakes: Toronto, Detroit, Indiana, Cleveland

1.2.2. - Mideast: Atlanta, Memphis, Chicago, Milwaukee

2. - Western Conference:

2.1. - Midwest Division:

2.1.1. - Southwest: Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, New Orleans

2.1.2. - Midwest: Minnesota, Denver, Utah, Oklahoma

2.2. - Pacific Division:

2.2.1. - Northwest: Portland, Sacramento, ''Seattle'', ''expansion team'' of either Las Vegas, San Diego, San Jose or Vancouver

2.2.2. - West Coast: Phoenix, L.A. Clippers, L.A. Lakers, Golden State

[Muggens]

So with Atlanta in all likelihood being added as the 22nd franchise in MLS, here is the 2017 alignment:

Expansion in italics

East

Atlanta

Columbus Crew

D.C. United

Miami

Montreal Impact

New England Revolution

New York City FC

New York Red Bulls

Orlando City SC

Philadelphia Union

Toronto FC

West

Chicago Fire

Colorado Rapids

FC Dallas

LA Galaxy

Los Angeles FC (or whatever Chivas is re-branded as)

Portland Timbers

Real Salt Lake

San Jose Earthquakes

Seattle Sounders FC

Sporting Kansas City

Vancouver Whitecaps FC

[jlog3000]

So with Atlanta in all likelihood being added as the 22nd franchise in MLS, here is the 2017 alignment:

Expansion in italics

East

Atlanta

Columbus Crew

D.C. United

Miami

Montreal Impact

New England Revolution

New York City FC

New York Red Bulls

Orlando City SC

Philadelphia Union

Toronto FC

West

Chicago Fire

Colorado Rapids

FC Dallas

LA Galaxy

Los Angeles FC (or whatever Chivas is re-branded as)

Portland Timbers

Real Salt Lake

San Jose Earthquakes

Seattle Sounders FC

Sporting Kansas City

Vancouver Whitecaps FC

I can approve the realignment, but how come Houston is not in the list?

[wonderbread]

So with Atlanta in all likelihood being added as the 22nd franchise in MLS, here is the 2017 alignment:

Expansion in italics

East

Atlanta

Columbus Crew

D.C. United

Miami

Montreal Impact

New England Revolution

New York City FC

New York Red Bulls

Orlando City SC

Philadelphia Union

Toronto FC

West

Chicago Fire

Colorado Rapids

FC Dallas

LA Galaxy

Los Angeles FC (or whatever Chivas is re-branded as)

Portland Timbers

Real Salt Lake

San Jose Earthquakes

Seattle Sounders FC

Sporting Kansas City

Vancouver Whitecaps FC

I can approve the realignment, but how come Houston is not in the list?

Houston should be west

And I'd put Chicago in the east

Having them in the west requires so much more travel for them with all the other west teams being so far away

[jlog3000]

So with Atlanta in all likelihood being added as the 22nd franchise in MLS, here is the 2017 alignment:

Expansion in italics

East

Atlanta

Columbus Crew

D.C. United

Miami

Montreal Impact

New England Revolution

New York City FC

New York Red Bulls

Orlando City SC

Philadelphia Union

Toronto FC

West

Chicago Fire

Colorado Rapids

FC Dallas

LA Galaxy

Los Angeles FC (or whatever Chivas is re-branded as)

Portland Timbers

Real Salt Lake

San Jose Earthquakes

Seattle Sounders FC

Sporting Kansas City

Vancouver Whitecaps FC

I can approve the realignment, but how come Houston is not in the list?

Houston should be west

And I'd put Chicago in the east

Having them in the west requires so much more travel for them with all the other west teams being so far away

You have a point right there wonderbread, and I can understand that. Chicago should be in the East, if Houston is included. But that would leave an empty spot on the West with 11 teams, needing a 24th franchise in general for the league. I think that it should be either in Phoenix or another city in Texas. Just my opinion. And both East and West conferences should be divided equally into 2 6-team divisions. You feel me?

[wonderbread]

So with Atlanta in all likelihood being added as the 22nd franchise in MLS, here is the 2017 alignment:

Expansion in italics

East

Atlanta

Columbus Crew

D.C. United

Miami

Montreal Impact

New England Revolution

New York City FC

New York Red Bulls

Orlando City SC

Philadelphia Union

Toronto FC

West

Chicago Fire

Colorado Rapids

FC Dallas

LA Galaxy

Los Angeles FC (or whatever Chivas is re-branded as)

Portland Timbers

Real Salt Lake

San Jose Earthquakes

Seattle Sounders FC

Sporting Kansas City

Vancouver Whitecaps FC

I can approve the realignment, but how come Houston is not in the list?

Houston should be west

And I'd put Chicago in the east

Having them in the west requires so much more travel for them with all the other west teams being so far away

You have a point right there wonderbread, and I can understand that. Chicago should be in the East, if Houston is included. But that would leave an empty spot on the West with 11 teams, needing a 24th franchise in general for the league. I think that it should be either in Phoenix or another city in Texas. Just my opinion. And both East and West conferences should be divided equally into 2 6-team divisions. You feel me?

I understand that but the nhl is able to work with uneven divisions because of travel, and until recently the mlb did to, i dont think there needs to be a perfect split among the teams especially with a league that is still growing and doesn't have a lot of revenue and trying to save money

[JackieMoon]

The "Ultimate" NFL Realignment

*AMERICAN (AFC)*

Baltimore

Buffalo

Cincinnati

Cleveland

Denver

Houston

Indianapolis

Jacksonville

Kansas City

Miami

New England

NY Jets

Oakland

Pittsburgh

San Diego

Tennessee

*NATIONAL (NFC)*

Arizona

Atlanta

Carolina

Chicago

Dallas

Detroit

Green Bay

Minnesota

New Orleans

NY Giants

Philadelphia

St. Louis

San Francisco

Seattle

Tampa Bay

Washington

Keep current system. Get rid of 2 preseason games and make those regular season games. Play every team in your conference once (15 games, on an every other home-away basis) plus 3 games against your "traditional foes" aka current divisions. Top 6 go to playoffs from each conference.

Pretty simple, yet will never be done...

[Muggens]

Oops my bad, sorry for forgetting Houston

so here we go:

Expansion in italics

East

Atlanta

Chicago Fire

Columbus Crew

D.C. United

Miami

Montreal Impact

New England Revolution

New York City FC

New York Red Bulls

Orlando City SC

Philadelphia Union

Toronto FC

West

Colorado Rapids

FC Dallas

Houston Dynamo

LA Galaxy

Los Angeles FC (or whatever Chivas is re-branded as)

Portland Timbers

Real Salt Lake

San Jose Earthquakes

Seattle Sounders FC

Sporting Kansas City

Vancouver Whitecaps FC

Then maybe Minnesota or San Antonio as the 24th club

[jlog3000]

The "Ultimate" NFL Realignment

*AMERICAN (AFC)*

Baltimore

Buffalo

Cincinnati

Cleveland

Denver

Houston

Indianapolis

Jacksonville

Kansas City

Miami

New England

NY Jets

Oakland

Pittsburgh

San Diego

Tennessee

*NATIONAL (NFC)*

Arizona

Atlanta

Carolina

Chicago

Dallas

Detroit

Green Bay

Minnesota

New Orleans

NY Giants

Philadelphia

St. Louis

San Francisco

Seattle

Tampa Bay

Washington

Keep current system. Get rid of 2 preseason games and make those regular season games. Play every team in your conference once (15 games, on an every other home-away basis) plus 3 games against your "traditional foes" aka current divisions. Top 6 go to playoffs from each conference.

Pretty simple, yet will never be done...

Sounds simple, but the schedule format would be like vintage league/conference play (without inter-league/inter-conference play) back in the old MLB days until 1996. But it might work out. Who'll know?

Oops my bad, sorry for forgetting Houston

so here we go:

Expansion in italics

East

Atlanta

Chicago Fire

Columbus Crew

D.C. United

Miami

Montreal Impact

New England Revolution

New York City FC

New York Red Bulls

Orlando City SC

Philadelphia Union

Toronto FC

West

Colorado Rapids

FC Dallas

Houston Dynamo

LA Galaxy

Los Angeles FC (or whatever Chivas is re-branded as)

Portland Timbers

Real Salt Lake

San Jose Earthquakes

Seattle Sounders FC

Sporting Kansas City

Vancouver Whitecaps FC

Then maybe Minnesota or San Antonio as the 24th club

Nice. But imagine if it was in 4 divisions:

1.) East

a.) Atlantic - Atlanta, Miami, New York City FC, N.Y. Red Bulls, Orlando City, D.C. United

b.) Northeast - New England, Montreal, Toronto, Philadelphia, Columbus, Chicago

2.) West

a.) Midwest - Real Salt Lake, Colorado, Sporting K.C., Houston, Dallas, Minnesota or San Antonio

b.) Pacific - Vancouver, Seattle, Portland, Chivas U.S.A., L.A. Galaxy, San Jose

[Norva]

I'd like the MLS to split into 4 divisions, but I don't think they plan to change the 2 conference/no division system ever.

[jlog3000]

I'd like the MLS to split into 4 divisions, but I don't think they plan to change the 2 conference/no division system ever.

Yeah, I bet that's the unfortunate part. But who knows if the MLS staff would plan to test in out under consideration?