Red Wolf Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Things are going well in Knoxville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Since Fulmer's firing in 2008, Tennessee had soon to three school chancellors, soon to be four football head coaches, and likely four athletic directors*. *-Five if you include the Women's AD when they were a separate department until 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krz Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Goodbye ken sumlin https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/texas-a-m-fires-coach-kevin-sumlin-after-six-seasons-with-the-aggies/amp/ Excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I didn't even know about Schiano's alleged role in the Penn State scandal. When I saw Tennessee fans were upset, I assumed it was because they didn't get Gruden and, as usual, overestimated how good the Tennessee job actually is. Kudos to Tennessee fans for speaking out, but what a bad look for the program. And according to Football Scoop, Schiano is now seeking compensation. What a mess. I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 When I saw this morning that Tennessee signed Schiano I damn near threw my phone. That was before I even realized he had a link to this whole Penn State mess. What a downright moronic choice Schiano was all the way through. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, See Red said: I didn't even know about Schiano's alleged role in the Penn State scandal. When I saw Tennessee fans were upset, I assumed it was because they didn't get Gruden and, as usual, overestimated how good the Tennessee job actually is. Kudos to Tennessee fans for speaking out, but what a bad look for the program. And according to Football Scoop, Schiano is now seeking compensation. What a mess. I love it! He and his agent wants compensation because he signed something. Lots of hubris from a Tennessee fan base and team which was part of the first two years of the BCS and never sniffed anything close since. If the fans are going to be this way for a hire and annually have a plebescite via social media, then your scene is toxic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Yesterday I was driving home from work and the local sports radio personality was talking about the possibility of Stricklin bringing Spurrier in to bridge the gap for a few years until Florida finds a coach they like (and they made it sound like it was being treated as a legitimate possibility), which, of course, would be utterly absurd. I was embarrassed for the program sinking so low to where that's even mentioned as a possibility. And then Tennessee goes and tries to hire a guy who was allegedly involved in covering up for Sandusky and I suddenly feel a lot better about the goings on in Gainesville. When McElwain was fired I said, probably on here, that Mullen didn't move the needle for me at all. But the more I think about it now, they got a 45 year old with nine years experience in the SEC West and a connection to the program who's good for eight wins a year at Mississippi State. The recruits seem happy (at least Matt Corral and recent decommit Jacob Copeland do), he understands the expectations, and is a pretty safe hire. I love the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Before any additional NCAA penalties come down, Mississippi will take the interim tag off Matt Luke. https://mobile.twitter.com/DavisEPotter/status/934973266174926855 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 They have a decent coach and early recruiting in two weeks, best to stay the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 What was schiano’s role? Just that he was there? Or was there any actual evidence that he knew anything? "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said: What was schiano’s role? Just that he was there? Or was there any actual evidence that he knew anything? If I have it correctly, McQueary testified that another member of the coaching staff (Tom Bradley) had told him that Schiano had entered Bradley's office once saying he had just seen Sandusky with a young boy in the shower (and, I guess, never reported it?). It's worth noting the claim wasn't deemed worthy of following up. It's hearsay, but it's still a really bad time to being hiring anybody with such ties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 It seems to me that these guys didn't want Schiano and have latched on to hearsay to give them the ammo they need to keep him out of Knoxville. Now Currie could have said they'd discussed the Penn State situation and that he trusted Schiano's version of events. There would still be people against him being there but now it make the athletic department look out of touch with the fanbase at best, or absolutely incompetent at worst. If John Gruden actually took this job I'd expect his statue to be up by opening day next season. Sumlin is expected to take the Arizona State job. For me it's a lateral move but I feel it's a better fit for him since there won't be this irrational belief that they can beat USC every single year. Texas A&M is going all in on getting Jumbo Fisher to come to College Station to play Saban every year instead of every 3 or 4 years. That sounds like career suicide if he doesn't have the athletes like he has in Tallahassee. Whomever does come in, I hope the first words out of their mouth is, "Texas, let's play some football"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, MJWalker45 said: It seems to me that these guys didn't want Schiano and have latched on to hearsay to give them the ammo they need to keep him out of Knoxville. Now Currie could have said they'd discussed the Penn State situation and that he trusted Schiano's version of events. There would still be people against him being there but now it make the athletic department look out of touch with the fanbase at best, or absolutely incompetent at worst. If John Gruden actually took this job I'd expect his statue to be up by opening day next season. Sumlin is expected to take the Arizona State job. For me it's a lateral move but I feel it's a better fit for him since there won't be this irrational belief that they can beat USC every single year. Texas A&M is going all in on getting Jumbo Fisher to come to College Station to play Saban every year instead of every 3 or 4 years. That sounds like career suicide if he doesn't have the athletes like he has in Tallahassee. Whomever does come in, I hope the first words out of their mouth is, "Texas, let's play some football"! I'm reading that everywhere. This doesn't seem like something a mob could pull off...the reason for this may very well be that they don't want to be attached to the PSU scandal. If they are upset about the caliber of coach, then their expectations may be out of line. Schiano did some pretty good things at Rutgers, of all places. Gruden's not coming. This is a very interesting case...particularly for some of us who feel so strongly about the PSU scandal. We believe in innocent until proven guilty so it's hard to really throw Schiano under the bus based on one story from McQueery; a story that could be false or mis-remembered. If I were a part of the hiring at Tennessee, I'd not have hired him. Ultimately, that may be unfair to him, but I have to look out for my program. That said, Tennessee could not have handled this worse if they'd set out to do so. What a mess. They did not do their due diligence (I think Currie has said he did not know that Schiano had even been at Penn State) and then made is worse by letting their fans tell them what to do. That sets a dangerous precedent. Whoever they get now probably won't be as good as Schiano, so I hope that the backlash was about the Penn State connection, because if it was about football, the fans shot themselves in the foot. Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, OnWis97 said: I'm reading that everywhere. This doesn't seem like something a mob could pull off...the reason for this may very well be that they don't want to be attached to the PSU scandal. If they are upset about the caliber of coach, then their expectations may be out of line. Schiano did some pretty good things at Rutgers, of all places. Gruden's not coming. This is a very interesting case...particularly for some of us who feel so strongly about the PSU scandal. We believe in innocent until proven guilty so it's hard to really throw Schiano under the bus based on one story from McQueery; a story that could be false or mis-remembered. If I were a part of the hiring at Tennessee, I'd not have hired him. Ultimately, that may be unfair to him, but I have to look out for my program. That said, Tennessee could not have handled this worse if they'd set out to do so. What a mess. They did not do their due diligence (I think Currie has said he did not know that Schiano had even been at Penn State) and then made is worse by letting their fans tell them what to do. That sets a dangerous precedent. Whoever they get now probably won't be as good as Schiano, so I hope that the backlash was about the Penn State connection, because if it was about football, the fans shot themselves in the foot. This came from a fake account according to SBNation:(https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/11/27/16703436/greg-schiano-tennessee-coach-not-hired) 10. This fake Twitter account seemed believable for a second, because this is the kind of staggering incompetence Tennessee could pull off. Sources close to #Vols AD John Currie tell me he wasn’t aware Greg Schiano coached at Penn State - nor was he aware of the sworn testimony identifying him as having witnessed the abuse of minors - Currie only vetted Schiano’s time from his days at Rutgers thru present day — Jimmy Hyams (@JiminyHyams) November 26, 2017 Again, that’s not real. As disappointed as I am for him, it actually helps Ohio State if he decides to stay on. The defense had a lot of new starters and still managed a 10-2 record and a Big Ten East title. IF the majority of those juniors and sophomores eligible for the draft stay Ohio State could be ranked in the Top 5 next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I think either one of two things happens with Tennessee now. 1) They hire on a coach like Todd Graham, or actually hire Todd Graham, because that's the tops they can reach, and it'd be HILARIOUS to see him take two jobs where the fan bases straight tossed the previous choice. 2) They get SUPER desperate and we see something crazy like Fulmer return. That feels like SUCH a Tennessee move to make. Either way, this is a bummer. I've been a Vols fan probably longer than I've been a fan of any other team. Seeing them struggle like this just makes me sad. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Bucfan56 said: I think either one of two things happens with Tennessee now. 1) They hire on a coach like Todd Graham, or actually hire Todd Graham, because that's the tops they can reach, and it'd be HILARIOUS to see him take two jobs where the fan bases straight tossed the previous choice. 2) They get SUPER desperate and we see something crazy like Fulmer return. That feels like SUCH a Tennessee move to make. Either way, this is a bummer. I've been a Vols fan probably longer than I've been a fan of any other team. Seeing them struggle like this just makes me sad. It make take some apology to get Fulmer back. He was convinced he was going to be named AD this last search which got them John Currie from K-State. Then the fanbase wanted him to bring Cutcliffe back to be HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Oh, poor delusional Aggie loves to compete, thus they have to give Vols and Husker fans a run for "most delusional fan base". https://texags.com/s/26286/around-cfb-critics-minimizing-ams-potential-arent-paying-attention Quote A prevailing opinion among national sports media lately is that Texas A&M lacks self-awareness. The narrative is that A&M has no business seeking a high-profile football coach like Florida State’s Jimbo Fisher to replace ousted coach Kevin Sumlin. Actually, A&M is a “high-tier” job. Its impressive record of attracting and retaining coaches is proof. Some in the national media also seem to think A&M should not expect to win at a high level even though the Aggies have proven they can. A&M won 75 percent of its games during a five-year span in the ‘70s. The Aggies won three consecutive conference championships in the ‘80s. They also won three consecutive conference championships in the ‘90s. All A&M needs is the right coach to bring it all together. Some in the national media need to learn who A&M really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Cutcliffe said he's not interested in the Tennessee job. This job search is so crazy an active NFL player (Jason Witten) had to shoot down rumors he would be taking the job. Just bring Lane Kiffin back to top this whole thing off. Except don't because I think he might be really successful wherever he eventually ends up. Tee Martin leaves a lot to be desired as far as coaching resume but I'd have to think he's somebody the fanbase would get behind. That's probably be the direction I'd want them to go in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Jordan Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Come on Vols, you know you want to... #BringBackLaneKiffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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