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If this Baseball cup idea does take place, the draws to determine each round better be live on television.

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This Baseball Cup thing sounds like the US Open Cup for soccer in the States.  It starts off with the lower level teams with the top tier teams getting multiple bye weeks until they have enough teams.

 

There are a lot of talent disparities between the levels so im not sure how it'll work.

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What does this mean?

"MLB’s proposal would turn minor league teams into franchisees in an MLB-governed system."

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In the US Open Cup and, I assume, other countries' cups, lower level affiliates of teams aren't allowed in to preserve the integrity of the matches

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18 hours ago, BBTV said:

What does this mean?

"MLB’s proposal would turn minor league teams into franchisees in an MLB-governed system."


It means the end of the independent entity known as Minor League Baseball (dubbed the National Association of Professional Baseball Leagues prior to 1999) serving as the umbrella organization overseeing the individual affiliated farm leagues.

Owners of affiliated minor league baseball teams are currently franchisees of MiLB and their leagues. Under Major League Baseball's proposal for the reorganization of affiliated minor league ball, Minor League Baseball / MiLB would cease to exist as anything beyond a brand name. Going forward, minor league baseball team owners would be franchisees of a development system owned, operated, and overseen by MLB. MLB would dictate which level of competition each affiliated minor league circuit competed at, which geographic region each affiliated minor league circuit covered, which markets were assigned to each level of competition, and which MLB franchises that affiliated minor league teams operating in said markets could / would establish development agreements with.

MLB's goal? To cut costs and streamline player development. MLB leadership believes that the player development needs of 30 MLB teams are best served by 30 AAA teams, 30 AA teams, 30 Advanced A teams, and 30 A teams. The Short Season A and Rookie level leagues of affiliated minor league baseball will be eliminated, replaced by players formerly assigned to those levels receiving training at their respective MLB franchises' spring training facilities in Arizona and Florida. The number of minor league players each MLB team has under contract will be reduced and strictly controlled. Further savings will be realized by ensuring that each of a Major League Baseball team's four MiLB affiliates is situated as close as geographically possible to the big league club's market, as well as said club's other minor league teams. Additionally, MLB will take control of broadcast, merchandising, and sponsorship rights for affiliated minor leagues and teams, splitting revenues with the MiLB clubs on a 50-50 basis.

As for the current MiLB teams that don't survive the cut, Major League Baseball officials are apparently going to suggest that they join either collegiate summer leagues or independent minor league circuits. What such a move will do to the valuations and financial bottom-line of the current affiliated MiLB teams that don't survive the culling is, apparently, of no concern to Major League Baseball. 
 

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1 hour ago, Brian in Boston said:

MLB leadership believes that the player development needs of 30 MLB teams are best served by 30 AAA teams, 30 AA teams, 30 Advanced A teams, and 30 A teams. The Short Season A and Rookie level leagues of affiliated minor league baseball will be eliminated, replaced by players formerly assigned to those levels receiving training at their respective MLB franchises' spring training facilities in Arizona and Florida. The number of minor league players each MLB team has under contract will be reduced and strictly controlled.

 

I don't think I really have a problem with this, though it does mean my Lake Monsters will be cut.

 

What I do have a problem with would be the MLB taking it all over and doing whatever this "Baseball Cup" thing is. Just cut the teams down to 120 and keep the current structure of MiLB as is (or at least with the restructuring of some leagues to account for teams that are being lost and teams that are promoted to fill spots).

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2 hours ago, Brian in Boston said:

Further savings will be realized by ensuring that each of a Major League Baseball team's four MiLB affiliates is situated as close as geographically possible to the big league club's market.

 

So, more things like Gwinnett Braves, Frisco Roughriders, and Tacoma Rainiers.
 

And less things like Wichita Wind Surge<->Miami Marlins.  

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21 hours ago, sportsfan7 said:

In the US Open Cup and, I assume, other countries' cups, lower level affiliates of teams aren't allowed in to preserve the integrity of the matches

That's partially true. One benefit to the lower teams not being allowed in is that the big clubs, if they want to, can give Open Cup minutes to people who wouldn't ordinarily get playing time with the club (as they'd be cup-tied with the lower-level club otherwise).

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On 9/4/2020 at 11:08 AM, B-Rich said:

Makes Manfred out to be a greedy bad guy

 

Sounds like the accurate reporting our nation so sorely needs.

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I don't understand why people are put in charge of things they apparently have no appreciation of.

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Rob Manfred is the commissioner for our time: A man who has clearly spent his entire adult life working to be CEO of something, anything. Baseball? Sure, what the hell, that's the one with the sticks, right? He is an empty vessel enthralled with being able to say he is in charge of a thing and the paycheck that comes with it. Meanwhile, his real bosses get to funnel money upward through him as rapidly as they like without any trite concerns like "the good of the game."

 

Clear-cutting MiLB is the first step here, as evidenced by the report that MLB will be taking half of pretty much all farm teams' revenues outside of the concession stands. The 40 slaughtered teams will no doubt be shopped for potential opportunities in indy ball or summer collegiate leagues. Those operations are no doubt hurting from COVID as much as affiliated teams, if not more. MLB will make the AA, Frontier, Northwoods, and whoever else offers they can't refuse, with the hope that, soon enough, any baseball you'd pay to see outside of college ball will be required to give MLB a cut for exisiting. Is that good for the game? Is that sustainable at any level in the long term? Rob Manfred and his bosses are getting theirs now, so who the hell cares?

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1 hour ago, Sodboy13 said:

Rob Manfred is the commissioner for our time: A man who has clearly spent his entire adult life working to be CEO of something, anything. Baseball? Sure, what the hell, that's the one with the sticks, right? He is an empty vessel enthralled with being able to say he is in charge of a thing and the paycheck that comes with it. Meanwhile, his real bosses get to funnel money upward through him as rapidly as they like without any trite concerns like "the good of the game."

 

Clear-cutting MiLB is the first step here, as evidenced by the report that MLB will be taking half of pretty much all farm teams' revenues outside of the concession stands. The 40 slaughtered teams will no doubt be shopped for potential opportunities in indy ball or summer collegiate leagues. Those operations are no doubt hurting from COVID as much as affiliated teams, if not more. MLB will make the AA, Frontier, Northwoods, and whoever else offers they can't refuse, with the hope that, soon enough, any baseball you'd pay to see outside of college ball will be required to give MLB a cut for exisiting. Is that good for the game? Is that sustainable at any level in the long term? Rob Manfred and his bosses are getting theirs now, so who the hell cares?

 

Methinks it's time to pull the antitrust exemption. You know, for the good of the game.

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On 9/3/2020 at 2:58 PM, Brian in Boston said:



As for the current MiLB teams that don't survive the cut, Major League Baseball officials are apparently going to suggest that they join either collegiate summer leagues or independent minor league circuits. What such a move will do to the valuations and financial bottom-line of the current affiliated MiLB teams that don't survive the culling is, apparently, of no concern to Major League Baseball. 
 

 

Or, for that matter, the small cities that spent millions of dollars on their ballparks in the last decade plus for naught apparently.

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Just now, rams80 said:

 

Or, for that matter, the small cities that spent millions of dollars on their ballparks in the last decade plus for naught apparently.

A Burlington Bees and Clinton LumberKings move to the Northwoods League would have plenty of promise (charter team the Waterloo Bucks would no longer be the only team in Iowa)

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