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Could the Rays be moving to Las Vegas?

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1 hour ago, generalshepherd141 said:

No. Vegas already has 2 sports teams now and the Rays will do just fine when they get their new ballpark in Tampa proper.

Isn't that more of an if situation? 

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and the next thing that MLB should do if there is a team in Las Vegas is to reinstate Pete Rose.  

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My initial reaction is God I hope not, but if it keeps us from having a future Las Vegas Athletics, I'm cool with it. 

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There's this city in Canada that could use a team. Can't quite remember the name of it right now though... starts with an M....

 

Manitoba? Wait, no, that's a province... hmm...

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15 minutes ago, EvilChameleon said:

There's this city in Canada that could use a team. Can't quite remember the name of it right now though... starts with an M....

 

Manitoba? Wait, no, that's a province... hmm...

 

Miramichi!

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The Marlins should move to Montreal and the Rays should move to Miami.

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If MLB had to do it over again, were the Florida expansions worth it?

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9 minutes ago, The Six said:

The Marlins should move to Montreal and the Rays should move to Miami.

Rather than just move the rays? 

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16 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

If MLB had to do it over again, were the Florida expansions worth it?

 

One was plenty, two was just overexposure.

 

Under good ownership, a team could thrive in Florida. However, both teams have had shoddy ownership. The Marlins have had to deal with off-field problems with their owners and the scams that Loria pulled to get their current stadium built. The Rays moved into a horrendous stadium in a less-than-ideal location with the Tampa Bay Area (St. Petersburg) which has hampered their ability to be competitive. 

 

If anything, have a team in either Miami or Tampa and use that other 1990's expansion slot on a D.C. team. That way, there may be a small chance of the Expos sticking around in Montreal.

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25 minutes ago, The Six said:

Nah. Keep Montreal a National League town.

Eh, the idea of the Expos and Blue Jays meeting 18 times every year is very interesting...

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26 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:

 

One was plenty, two was just overexposure.

 

Under good ownership, a team could thrive in Florida. However, both teams have had shoddy ownership. The Marlins have had to deal with off-field problems with their owners and the scams that Loria pulled to get their current stadium built. The Rays moved into a horrendous stadium in a less-than-ideal location with the Tampa Bay Area (St. Petersburg) which has hampered their ability to be competitive. 

 

If anything, have a team in either Miami or Tampa and use that other 1990's expansion slot on a D.C. team. That way, there may be a small chance of the Expos sticking around in Montreal.

Well expanding to two markets that are four hours apart within a five-year span probably wasn't the greatest of ideas to begin with.

 

We've been over the Rays' location issues many times.  They would do so much better with attendance by being in Tampa than the St. Petersburg outpost.  They also need a more fan-inspiring building.  They've tried their best to spruce up that place (and it's really not as bad a place to watch a game as folks make it out to be...it's just so totally different a baseball-watching experience than we're used to.  They do need a building with a roof, but they also need some natural sunlight and color/brightness.

 

As for the Marlin, they didn't help their initial cause by playing an hour away from Miami (traffic really stinks in South Florida).  They really didn't help their cause by playing in a football stadium for 20 years.  Then having fire sales after their World Series runs, than the fire sale halfway through their first season in an actual baseball stadium, and having Loria annually piss off their fans has probably chased off their fans.  They need an owner that'll show short- and long-term commitments to being and staying competitive.  They could use a face like Jeter being part of their ownership group.  He would excite that fan base.

 

I don't get why folks see Montreal as this answer.  Blame whomever you want, but that fan base quit on baseball.  They would show up for Opening Day and the series against Toronto, and when you only have two games a season...sure, sell out a Spring Training game....but they don't care about baseball 81 times a year.

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13 hours ago, goalieboy82 said:

and the next thing that MLB should do if there is a team in Las Vegas is to reinstate Pete Rose.  

 

The two things have nothing to do with one another.  

 

Even if MLB instituted official betting lines and in-seat gambling opportunities, that won't change the fact that Rose broke the rules in place at the time.  And worse yet, Rose lied and lied and lied for decades, to the point where we can't even believe we know the truth now. Did he deliberately throw games?  I don't know.  And neither do you. Not to mention that Rose spent all that time slandering the honest people whose only fault was to tell the truth about him.

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8 hours ago, HedleyLamarr said:

I don't get why folks see Montreal as this answer.  Blame whomever you want, but that fan base quit on baseball.  They would show up for Opening Day and the series against Toronto, and when you only have two games a season...sure, sell out a Spring Training game....but they don't care about baseball 81 times a year.

 

Still better than the fans in Tampa Bay, who didn't care about baseball even when their club was in first place the entire year.  Even when their club went to the World Series.  Put that team in any other baseball city, and they'd be at the top of the attendance charts.  But in Tampa Bay, barely a blip. 

 

Make all the excuses you want, but the Tampa Bay fan base gave up on baseball.  If they were ever interested in the first place.   

 

Really not sure that's your best argument, there. 

 

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29 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

 

Still better than the fans in Tampa Bay, who didn't care about baseball even when their club was in first place the entire year.  Even when their club went to the World Series.  Put that team in any other baseball city, and they'd be at the top of the attendance charts.  But in Tampa Bay, barely a blip. 

 

Make all the excuses you want, but the Tampa Bay fan base gave up on baseball.  If they were ever interested in the first place.   

 

Really not sure that's your best argument, there. 

 

Montreal would have killed to see 16,000 come to every game.

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26 minutes ago, HedleyLamarr said:

Montreal would have killed to see 16,000 come to every game.

 

Montreal would also have killed for a 97-win season. 

 

Besides, different times.  You can't compare eras to eras, only how a team performs in relation to its contemporaries.  And the Rays have always performed terribly, even when the team was among the best in baseball. 

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5 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

 

Montreal would also have killed for a 97-win season. 

 

Besides, different times.  You can't compare eras to eras, only how a team performs in relation to its contemporaries.  And the Rays have always performed terribly, even when the team was among the best in baseball. 

Rays went to the World Series in 2007, Montreal's last season was 2004.  And the Expos churned out a cool 9,300 fans that season.

 

Montreal had back-to-back winning seasons in 2002 and 2003 and got 22,000 to come out....combined.  Montreal was not a good market then, and they aren't a good market now. Give them two games a year to host the lone Canadian team and a chance to relive their baseball days, they can handle that.  79 more?  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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Just for the record, I never said Montreal was a great baseball market.  But Tampa Bay certainly isn't. 

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