ozzyman314 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Because losing Roy Halladay wasn't enough, Daniel Flores (Red Sox prospect) has died from cancer. 17 :censored:ing years old too. WTH? Red Sox: 8 Celtics: 17 Bruins: 6 Patriots: 5 Phantom Merch Collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 7:41 PM, the admiral said: His most comparable players appear to be Zach Greinke on the aggregate side and Tim Hudson/Mike Mussina on the by-age side. That doesn't 100% feel like Hall of Fame to me by gut instinct, but I still have to believe he's in. Mike Mussina is a Hall of Famer by any measure and, hopefully, will get in some day. Checked in at 51.8% of vote with six years of eligiblity left, so there's a decent chance at this for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Good article: Quote Durability was Halladay’s hallmark. He pitched 63 complete games from 2002 through 2011, 30 more than any other pitcher in that decade. His back gave out, but he said his arm always felt strong. The workload never caught up to him because he measured it precisely. “If I threw 120 pitches in a game, I would throw a 20-pitch bullpen,” Halladay explained. “If I threw 100 pitches in a game, I would throw a 40-pitch bullpen. If I only threw 80, I’d throw a 60-pitch bullpen. So I was always getting the same amount of pitches in a five-day period.” We talked a bit about the modern state of pitching. Halladay had eight seasons of at least 220 innings, a total no pitcher reached in 2017. He said today’s pitchers, with their turbo fastballs, tried too hard to strike hitters out. “I felt like with two strikes — 0-2, 1-2 — if they didn’t swing at it, it was going to be strike three,” he said. “I wanted something that they had either had to swing at and put in play, or was going to be a strike on 0-2. Now it’s two extra pitches, and we’re getting back to 2-2 and the count goes on. So I think it’s just changed a lot in the way people think about pitching. They want to stay just off the plate to where they’re avoiding contact.” Halladay induced weak contact — and so many awkward swings — using the Greg Maddux model of moving the ball in or away on either side of the plate. Hitters knew that Halladay could carve an X in the air, down by their hands or out by their handle, with his sinkers and cutters. He could also lock them up with a curve in the zone, or a split-change — a pitch he learned from Rich Dubee, a Phillies coach — in the dirt. “I wanted them to swing at every pitch,” he said. And with an arsenal like that, why not? Ties into what I was saying about Halladay's pace and efficiency being so impressive. One of the things I dislike about the smartening of baseball is that it's reduced so much of the game to walks, strikeouts, and home runs. Even if the numbers say that that's the way the game should be played, there's a creeping artlessness to this fear of contact. I know it sounds counterintuitive to praise the aesthetics of inducing a weak groundout down the line over a strikeout on a perfectly placed 12-6 curve, but maybe those strikeouts look less impressive when no hitter is sweating a strikeout. I dunno, Halladay was one of the best of the last decade (I wonder how we'll consider Mark Buehrle, kind of the lefty Halladay with higher highs but a lesser aggregate body of work) and I like pitchers talking pitching. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 In a move that I don't think surprises many people, Carlos Beltran announced his retirement today. In another move that's a bit more surprising, he may be looked at pretty strongly for the Yankees manager job. http://nypost.com/2017/11/13/carlos-beltran-goes-out-a-champion/ On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalieboy82 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/11/13/sammy-sosa-unrecognizable-in-tweets-showing-baseball-great-with-lightened-skin.html so long and thanks for all the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Alex Anthopoulos is the new Atlanta GM.... http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21402952/atlanta-braves-hire-former-dodgers-blue-jays-exec-alex-anthopoulos-gm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Dykstra Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 23 hours ago, Bucfan56 said: In a move that I don't think surprises many people, Carlos Beltran announced his retirement today. In another move that's a bit more surprising, he may be looked at pretty strongly for the Yankees manager job. http://nypost.com/2017/11/13/carlos-beltran-goes-out-a-champion/ He should player/manage. That would be rad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 The program cover from Halladay's memorial service today. Charlie Manuel and Chris Carpenter spoke. Interesting the family went with a Phillies image for the front. THere's more of him with the Blue Jays inside. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers6884 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said: The program cover from Halladay's memorial service today. Charlie Manuel and Chris Carpenter spoke. Interesting the family went with a Phillies image for the front. THere's more of him with the Blue Jays inside. It was pretty hard trying to watch Carpenter's speech without crying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 9 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said: The program cover from Halladay's memorial service today. Charlie Manuel and Chris Carpenter spoke. Interesting the family went with a Phillies image for the front. THere's more of him with the Blue Jays inside. Maybe because the service was in Clearwater? That may be a reach but I'm figuring that is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, jmac11281 said: Maybe because the service was in Clearwater? That may be a reach but I'm figuring that is what it is. That was my thought as well...the service was at the Phillies spring ballpark but there was plenty of Blue Jays representation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalcowboyfan92 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I understand somewhat why they held it in Philly, because he had some success there. Everyone's going to remember his Phillie Perfecto against the Marlins and his post-season no-hitter, but I feel like this is sort of a slap in the face to Toronto. He never got to taste postseason success (at all) because those Jays teams were so terrible. He was often the reason people went to see Jays games in the early-to-mid 2000s (outside of guys like Delgado and the early days of Joey Bats). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I guess the reason I’m finding it interesting is I’ve been wondering what cap he’d wear if he’s out into the HOF, and since the family put all of that together (even on the inside, the blue jays pics are kinda small and still out numbered) I wonder if that’s a hint that’s their preference (I get it’s not their choic but their input would certainly be considered). "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I'm a fan of the Phillies but I can say without a doubt, he was a Blue Jay first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichO Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said: I guess the reason I’m finding it interesting is I’ve been wondering what cap he’d wear if he’s out into the HOF, and since the family put all of that together (even on the inside, the blue jays pics are kinda small and still out numbered) I wonder if that’s a hint that’s their preference (I get it’s not their choic but their input would certainly be considered). It's not even debatable what team cap he'd have. And the family thought process was probably along the lines of "this is the best looking photo, we like how he's smiling" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalcowboyfan92 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Roy needs to go into the Hall wearing a Jays cap. All respect to Philadelphia, but he started his career there and ended his career there (with one of those 1-day contract thingies). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyman314 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Judge wins RotY, to the shock of absolutely no one. Kluber wins AL Cy Young. 300 Strikeouts weren't enough to win it for Sale. Can't really argue (as much as I'd like) since Sale fell off a Cliff towards the end. Red Sox: 8 Celtics: 17 Bruins: 6 Patriots: 5 Phantom Merch Collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichO Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 GMs. They're just like us: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 11/15/2017 at 11:18 AM, Dalcowboyfan92 said: I understand somewhat why they held it in Philly, because he had some success there. Everyone's going to remember his Phillie Perfecto against the Marlins and his post-season no-hitter, but I feel like this is sort of a slap in the face to Toronto. He never got to taste postseason success (at all) because those Jays teams were so terrible. He was often the reason people went to see Jays games in the early-to-mid 2000s (outside of guys like Delgado and the early days of Joey Bats). The event was held in Clearwater, FL ballpark (close to where Roy lived after retirement), which just happens to be right down the road from Dunedin where the Blue Jays train. I know for a fact that staff members from the Toronto Florida Operations staff attended and many former players and staff were there. Trust me, Toronto was not misrepresented. The ceremony had flower arrangements representing Halladay's Phillies number in red and Toronto number in blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Jose Altuve is the AL MVP, while Giancarlo Stanton is the NL MVP! MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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