LMU Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 46 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said: Exactly. The thought that Anaheim is a "medium" sized market is ludicrous. Especially when you consider that the medium-market Anaheim baseball team shares a network with the LOS ANGELES Kings and the Ducks share a network with the LOS ANGELES Clippers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Here's the thing about the Angels that most people down there won't admit. There's a BIG a difference between being in a "Medium sized market" and just flat out being a second-rate organization. The Angels are definitely the second one. They'll never touch the Dodgers, no matter what they're called. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Jordan Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 8 hours ago, dfwabel said: He'll need it based on the last two decades of major Angels FA signings. Vaughn Hamilton Matthews, Jr. Pujols Torii Hunter is the lone exception. You also forgot Vernon Wells and C.J. Wilson. I'm very excited about Ohtani coming to the Angels. With Upton re-signing and now this, it's been a pretty good offseason so far. It makes it even sweeter that they beat out the Dodgers and the Mariners to get him. Suck on that, Jerry Dipoto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Jordan Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Bucfan56 said: Here's the thing about the Angels that most people down there won't admit. There's a BIG a difference between being in a "Medium sized market" and just flat out being a second-rate organization. The Angels are definitely the second one. They'll never touch the Dodgers, no matter what they're called. There's no question that the Angels have had nothing to show for all of their big free agent signings these last 7-8 years and have somehow managed to field a mediocre team year after year despite having the best player in baseball. But In all fairness, the Angels have finished 7th in average attendance in back-to-back seasons, and I think they've averaged at least 2 million fans per season for 15 seasons in a row. I wouldn't really call that second-rate. Also, they have something the Dodgers haven't had since the late 80's, and that would be a World Series title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shumway Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Judge. Stanton. (Not official, but I'm already terrified) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burmy Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 48 minutes ago, Shumway said: Judge. Stanton. (Not official, but I'm already terrified) If anybody was unconvinced that baseball needs a salary cap before, I think it's pretty much unanimous now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shstpt1 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, MBurmy said: If anybody was unconvinced that baseball needs a salary cap before, I think it's pretty much unanimous now. I was about to say this. It’s so stupid to hear Cashman say just the other day that it was important for them to get under the $200 million mark for next season, then goes out and does this, just cause they can. Cashman must have been watching the college coaching search, and wanted to give it a shot to see what it’s like to give people the run around As for Stanton... I’m disappointed with this. Not as much as i would have had he went to the Cardinals, but I’m still disappointed. He definitely wanted to win championship, and this is the place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickp91 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Jeter trading Stanton to his former team is like when Kevin McHale traded Garnett to the Celtics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Now watch Judge come crashing back down to earth and Stanton get popped for roids. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyman314 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I want to say I'm surprised about Stanton but I'm 100% not. Red Sox: 8 Celtics: 17 Bruins: 6 Patriots: 5 Phantom Merch Collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRicSlick Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Is anyone even going to go to Marlins games anymore? They traded the only two players that fans came to see. Not a good start for Jeter's group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 11 hours ago, Tracy Jordan said: Torii Hunter is the lone exception. You also forgot Vernon Wells and C.J. Wilson. I'm very excited about Ohtani coming to the Angels. With Upton re-signing and now this, it's been a pretty good offseason so far. It makes it even sweeter that they beat out the Dodgers and the Mariners to get him. Suck on that, Jerry Dipoto. As a Mariner fan, you can bite me... small market my ass. The guy didn't want to be in the shadow of what Ichiro did in Seattle. That's why he said no... well, that's my opinion anyway. Good luck in Anaheim, he'll need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 We were going to make it through the decade without a Yankee championship but now we won't. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroywen Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Middle of the Yankees' lineup: Aaron Judge Giancarlo Stanton Gary Sanchez Didi Gregorius Greg Bird Homers galore. This is probably Cashman's biggest heist ever. And this is a guy who has traded for reigning Cy Young Award winner Roger Clemens and reigning AL MVP Alex Rodriguez, as well as Bobby Abreu, Nick Swisher, Curtis Granderson, Sonny Gray, etc., all in fairly lopsided deals. The 28 year old reigning NL MVP, plus $30MM in salary relief, in exchange for Starlin Castro, a mid-level prospect, and a fairly obscure 18 year old minor leaguer. Holy crap. And FWIW, there's still a really good chance that the Yankees will get under the luxury tax threshold in either 2018 or 2019. They'll have Stanton and Gleyber Torres (at ML-minimum) for about the same amount that they paid Castro and Holliday in 2017. They also have lots of money coming off the books after 2018 - Gardner ($11.5MM), Headley ($13MM), Sabathia if he gets resigned, Chris Carter. So the Yankees can easily re-set the luxury tax still, since so much of their roster is filled with pre-arbitration and pre-FA guys. These aren't the days of the $200MM+ payroll Yankees with tons of aging free agent acquisitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needschat Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Judge Stanton Sanchez Gregorius Bird et al. There will be a new nickname for them. Can't use "The New Murderers' Row." Doesn't ring true. Oh what could have been.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Seadragon76 said: As a Mariner fan, you can bite me... small market my ass. The guy didn't want to be in the shadow of what Ichiro did in Seattle. That's why he said no... well, that's my opinion anyway. Good luck in Anaheim, he'll need it. He also didn't want to be part of team that needed to start a Cubs/Astros-style rebuild several years ago. MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Quote A quick recap: Jeter bought the Marlins using mostly other people’s money, completely gutted them, pushed out a bunch of longtime employees, and traded their once-in-a-Generation player to the Yankees. https://mobile.twitter.com/BillSimmo...16287599833089 Quote A quicker recap: bitter Red Sox fan. https://mobile.twitter.com/richeisen...20698325725189 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Notiwthstanding that longtime subordinates of Jeffrey Loria should be pushed not just out but off a cliff, where's the lie? ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGM13 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Brian Cashman is goddamn genius. The Yankees are gonna be super fun to watch, except I’m a Jays fan, so a little less so. GO OILERS-GO BLUE JAYS-GO ESKIMOS-GO COLTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Horrible thought time: If Jose Fernandez didn't die, Loria would still own the Marlins and they'd be looking for a few additional pieces to go on a playoff run. They could worry about the bad financial decisions later. MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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