Ferdinand Cesarano Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 1 hour ago, pepis21 said: 13 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: This categorical rejection makes little sense. A few ad breaks would give you a chance to pee, while not compromising the flow of the action. No, stop americanize football, ok? Get out of here with that "Americanise football" nonsense! I am simply addressing the crisis in football aesthetics by making suggestions to replace the revenue that uniform advertising brings is. One could assert that the ads on NBA uniforms are unobtrusive. While those ads displease me philosophically, at least they are small enough not to dominate the uniform. But on football shirts the ad overwhelms everything else. Here in a forum devoted to the aesthetics of uniforms, we should be able to regard as fact the notion that the advertising that appears on football shirts is an aesthetic disaster. What's more, the people here who are concerned with branding ought to, if they are going to be perfectly honest, acknowledge that the only logo or mark that belongs on a team's shirt is its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wolf Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 If we added commercials to soccer games, it wouldn't be to replace jersey ads. It would be to add even more revenue on top of jersey ads (and field ads, and league naming rights, stadium naming rights, etc.). So it's a bad idea that would accomplish nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin W. Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Jersey ads aren't going anywhere. The moment they get added to any sports league's jerseys, they are there to stay. The NBA won't get rid of the revenue stream that jersey ads are now adding and neither will any soccer league. That's reality and we have to live with it. Mighty Ducks of Anaheim (CHL - 2018 Orr Cup Champions) Chicago Rivermen (UBA/WBL - 2014, 2015, 2017 Intercontinental Cup Champions) King's Own Hexham FC (BIP - 2022 Saint's Cup Champions) Portland Explorers (EFL - Elite Bowl XIX Champions) Real San Diego (UPL) Red Bull Seattle (ULL - 2018, 2019, 2020 Gait Cup Champions) Vancouver Huskies (CL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 57 minutes ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: Get out of here with that "Americanise football" nonsense! I am simply addressing the crisis in football aesthetics by making suggestions to replace the revenue that uniform advertising brings is. You are advocating changes to the essential structure of the game in order to spur an increase in advertising revenue. Which is pretty much the definition of “Americanizing” the sport. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 46 minutes ago, Gothamite said: You are advocating changes to the essential structure of the game in order to spur an increase in advertising revenue. Which is pretty much the definition of “Americanizing” the sport. Wrong on both counts. 1. I advocate no change to the structure of the game. If someone suggested stoppages of play for commercials, that would constitute advocacy for altering the game. Delaying the broadcast a few minutes does not alter the play on the field one bit. 2. Anticipating the inevitable rebuttal that shirt ads bring revenue, I mentioned other ways to achieve that goal. (Also, there were two other — and possibly better — suggestions: split-screen ads or picture-in-picture ads.) 1 hour ago, Kevin W. said: Jersey ads aren't going anywhere. The moment they get added to any sports league's jerseys, they are there to stay. The sad thing is that this is true — and it is the very basis of the fundamental opposition to uniform ads. Even if most fans are not bothered, we, the tiny sliver of fans who care about aesthetics, should presumably have no problem in denouncing uniform ads as pollution and as a cultural crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin W. Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Are you saying that the game should be tape-delayed for ad purposes? You sound like an NBC executive. If if that’s what you’re advocating for, then that’s a ridiculous proposition. You can’t do anything tape-delayed any more. Social media says hi. Mighty Ducks of Anaheim (CHL - 2018 Orr Cup Champions) Chicago Rivermen (UBA/WBL - 2014, 2015, 2017 Intercontinental Cup Champions) King's Own Hexham FC (BIP - 2022 Saint's Cup Champions) Portland Explorers (EFL - Elite Bowl XIX Champions) Real San Diego (UPL) Red Bull Seattle (ULL - 2018, 2019, 2020 Gait Cup Champions) Vancouver Huskies (CL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Akronite- Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 It's a fallacy to think you can trade ads on jerseys for commercials. There's no reason to think if ad breaks were added to soccer games that this would remove the necessity of plastering a logo on your kit. Capitalism rules all. Soccer is stuck with ads on jerseys, it's part of the culture, even if I find it lame as hell. There were reports that NBA games reduced commercials post-ads on jerseys, but I haven't seen an analysis and that seemed to be based on fan perception of the breaks moreso than an offset of jersey revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: I advocate no change to the structure of the game. If someone suggested stoppages of play for commercials, that would constitute advocacy for altering the game. Delaying the broadcast a few minutes does not alter the play on the field one bit. Inserting ad breaks into a free-flowing game is changing the structure of the game. For those watching on television if no other group. And as such, it must be resisted tooth and claw. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 17 hours ago, -Akronite- said: It's a fallacy to think you can trade ads on jerseys for commercials. There's no reason to think if ad breaks were added to soccer games that this would remove the necessity of plastering a logo on your kit. Capitalism rules all. Soccer is stuck with ads on jerseys, it's part of the culture, even if I find it lame as hell. There were reports that NBA games reduced commercials post-ads on jerseys, but I haven't seen an analysis and that seemed to be based on fan perception of the breaks moreso than an offset of jersey revenue. The new timeout rules probably had a larger role since 20 second timeouts were removed for a full one minute timeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnclearInitial Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Serie A changed their logo from Quiznos to an A-pitch hybrid which rather looks like an A wearing a sombrero vueltiao Shalke's third And a slew of away kits released... Betis Parma's is throwbackis Napoli Leeds And Frosinone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlin Wall Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, anythinglogos said: Parma's is throwbackis Parma got an amazing set of kits this year! I'm a simple person, I have a pixelated David Beckham as profile photo since 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepis21 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Kappa went crazy this year which aren't natural for they. Korona Kielce away: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperV03 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Spurs unveiled and debuted their new third kit this morning against Newcastle: From afar I really like the look of this kit, mainly because of the color scheme. Up close, though, the pattern is hard to decipher and ends up cluttering the shirt IMO, especially when combined with the navy color block on the chest. Still, I’d say this is the best of their three kits for this season, but that’s really not saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlin Wall Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Palmeiras third: I'm a simple person, I have a pixelated David Beckham as profile photo since 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aawagner011 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Berlin Wall said: Palmeiras third: Looks like the same pattern as Atlanta United, just a little more exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Agreed. I like Atlanta's version better because it doesn't stand out as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlin Wall Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Amazing. I want one of these jackets. I'm a simple person, I have a pixelated David Beckham as profile photo since 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Fulham rocking this red kit for what, a third season running? What an anachronism. I know they’re not a prestige club but surprising they don’t have a new option for a third kit. Fan Style ShirtsShowcasing fan-made sports apparel by artists and designers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendocfc Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 3rd season yes. Was away in 16/17,third in 17/18 and now 18/19 as well. You don't see it often that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikWings Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Was watching a bit of the Spurs games today and that gradient or whatever it is on the bottom of the jerseys just makes it look like the players are wearing their shorts Urkle style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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