kiwi_canadian 140 Posted March 3, 2018 The Victoria Highlanders of the United Soccer League’s Premier Development League have unveiled a new logo for the upcoming season. They also switched kit providers from Umbro to Macron for this season. http://www.highlandersfc.ca/news/a-new-logo-a-new-identity-a-new-era-begins Old logo for reference: 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-Squared 2,478 Posted March 3, 2018 Certainly cleaner, but it feels less "highland-y" 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcrosby 2,400 Posted March 3, 2018 Agreed. Something this simple should have used a very simple Celtic typeface for the monogram. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WavePunter 2,090 Posted March 4, 2018 A very Celtic V alone on the shield would've been a fine crest.. This is overly generic 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quillz 1,093 Posted March 4, 2018 I feel like the "VH" is backwards. We read left-to-right (at least in most Western cultures), so it seems to be the left leg of the "V" should be over the left leg of the "H," instead of behind it like it is. Doing it that way reads more "the Highlanders of Victoria" sort of thing. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Tsubasa 106 Posted March 4, 2018 Aesthetically it's nice enough, but I agree it would make more sense if they would've used a Celtic typeface. Also, they should drop the "Victoria" header, as right now it reads Victoria HV. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothamite 17,731 Posted March 4, 2018 If you’re going to say that the crest shape mimics the shield in the city’s coat of arms, shouldn’t the crest actually have the same shape as that shield? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice_Cap 16,201 Posted March 4, 2018 10 hours ago, Gothamite said: If you’re going to say that the crest shape mimics the shield in the city’s coat of arms, shouldn’t the crest actually have the same shape as that shield? Further, mimicking the shield shape is pointless if you don’t include elements from the shield. Shield shapes in coats of arms are rarely unique. It’s the design, not the shape, that matters. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothamite 17,731 Posted March 4, 2018 They can sometimes be unique. The shield that NYCFC considered for their badge was a nice nod to an element on the city’s seal. In retrospect, I’m really sorry that one didn’t win. But your greater point is well taken. The shields themselves are often fairly generic. In the Highlanders’ case, they seem to be reaching to justify a design choice they had already made, rather than seeking true inspiration from the city’s coat of arms. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andrewharrington 3,321 Posted March 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Ice_Cap said: Further, mimicking the shield shape is pointless if you don’t include elements from the shield. Shield shapes in coats of arms are rarely unique. It’s the design, not the shape, that matters. Yes. Can’t stress this enough, designers. The shield shapes (escutcheons) used in coats of arms varied with time and origin and have little, if any direct meaning or reason. You can often pinpoint the century and country/region of a particular design by the shape of the shield, but that’s where the importance ends. The reason for one shape over another was never more than “well, this how all the other French/English/German/whatever shields are done, so ours will be, too.” 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-Squared 2,478 Posted March 5, 2018 9 hours ago, andrewharrington said: Yes. Can’t stress this enough, designers. The shield shapes (escutcheons) used in coats of arms varied with time and origin and have little, if any direct meaning or reason. You can often pinpoint the century and country/region of a particular design by the shape of the shield, but that’s where the importance ends. The reason for one shape over another was never more than “well, this how all the other French/English/German/whatever shields are done, so ours will be, too.” I have no problem with designers simply carrying over crest/shield shapes - that they represent the region in a bigger way than sports is justification enough for me... however, it only works for me if the original designs are unique enough (and therefore significant enough) to warrant that type of use. This B.C. crest is generic as all get-out. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andrewharrington 3,321 Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, C-Squared said: I have no problem with designers simply carrying over crest/shield shapes - that they represent the region in a bigger way than sports is justification enough for me... however, it only works for me if the original designs are unique enough (and therefore significant enough) to warrant that type of use. This B.C. crest is generic as all get-out. That’s what I’m getting at. This shield shape (it’s called a “heater”) just means that the origin of the person (or group of people) who created that particular drawing of the achievement of arms were likely English or French and learned heraldry from studying the medieval period. It has no direct correlation or specificity to Victoria and thus is kind of a watery reference to point out in a design; it’s the lowest hanging fruit to pat yourself on the back and show that you viewed at least one image during your exhaustive research. Using the V-shaped division (this is called “pile”), on the other hand would have been a fantastic thing to utilize and point out in this context because it’s relatively rare as a heraldic element and heraldry, by nature, is meant to be as unique as possible to distinguish it from others’ arms. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leopard88 2,451 Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, andrewharrington said: That’s what I’m getting at. This shield shape (it’s called a “heater”) just means that the origin of the person (or group of people) who created that particular drawing of the achievement of arms were likely English or French and learned heraldry from studying the medieval period. It has no direct correlation or specificity to Victoria and thus is kind of a watery reference to point out in a design; it’s the lowest hanging fruit to pat yourself on the back and show that you viewed at least one image during your exhaustive research. Using the V-shaped division (this is called “pile”), on the other hand would have been a fantastic thing to utilize and point out in this context because it’s relatively rare as a heraldic element and heraldry, by nature, is meant to be as unique as possible to distinguish it from others’ arms. Incorporating the V in the original shield was my first thought. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites