Death of the Alliance of American Football

[MJWalker45]

 

1 hour ago, Red Comet said:

 

>Starter likely receiving less than $100,000 in total sales. I'm going to say that a lot of jerseys and apparel were probably given away by the teams just like the tickets.

 

Dundon looks more and more blameless for pulling the plug as time goes on IMO. Perhaps not for everything else but the narrative that Ebersol was a dupe played by the subprime auto loan baron doesn't hold up on further review. Looks more like one conman got played by a more experienced conman now.

If Starter was handing out free gear I may have missed it. I do know they had a promotion for one game that if you bought a team jerseys at the stadium you also got a free t shirt that was about a $30 value. I didn't see Riddell or Wilson mentioned but I'd think they'd be involved as well with replica helmet and football sales. 

[Gothamite]

I don’t think it was about giving away jerseys, but rather the merchandise sales not being as spectacular as they were hoping. 

[MJWalker45]

14 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

I don’t think it was about giving away jerseys, but rather the merchandise sales not being as spectacular as they were hoping. 

I think they overestimated nostalgia then and didn't ask for a bigger cut of the sales. 

[Gothamite]

Nostalgia?

[dfwabel]

42 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

I think they overestimated nostalgia then and didn't ask for a bigger cut of the sales. 

Who? and asking for a bigger cut of what?  Royalties paid to the leagues/college teams typically run between 8-13%.

 

[GDAWG]

3 hours ago, dfwabel said:

The Hotshots were practicing on fields next to State Farm Stadium in Glendale, which is managed by the Cardinals

 

So what was the deal between the league and the Falcons?

 

Also they owe Belinda Carlise money?  As in this Belinda Carlise?

 

 

[dfwabel]

3 hours ago, raysox said:

I know some of their designers were based in Tampa, so I imagine Tampa Lease is an office space.

Their Head of Operations was Tom Veit.  I don't think he moved to San Francisco but stayed in Tampa. 

[Gothamite]

We’re going to be unscrambling the league’s lies (or trying to) far longer than it actually was a thing, aren’t we?

[BBTV]

19 hours ago, Gothamite said:

Nostalgia?

 

I'm assuming he meant nostalgia for Starter merch - basically their logo and the possibility of retro designs for the new league (satin jackets, etc) - obviously not the team designs.

[MJWalker45]

30 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

I'm assuming he meant nostalgia for Starter merch - basically their logo and the possibility of retro designs for the new league (satin jackets, etc) - obviously not the team designs.

Yup. I also realize that other than jerseys and jackets, most of the items sold were from other providers. Not too many people would buy a heavy jacket in March at an indoor football game.

[Gothamite]

I can see nostalgia for Starter jackets and old designs for old teams.  But trying to market nostalgia for a brand-new team?   That’s silly.  And it is perfectly in keeping with the AAF’s mindset. 

[CaliforniaGlowin]

I've seen A7FL before here and there, I forgot about them.  But...THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKIN ABOUT!!!  Yes it's low budget, but it has lasted for 5 years!  And has its fan base.  No TV contracts, no news stories about them running out of money.  All these new leagues (UFL, AAF, etc) try to make a big splash and have high quality presentation which ultimately sinks them yet grassroots leagues like this keep going. 

 

if the goal is to develop players, focus on that instead of trying to get viewers. 

[Ferdinand Cesarano]

On 4/18/2019 at 2:01 PM, raysox said:

If anyone is interested....

AAF stuff on Dick's website are half off

https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/c/shop-by-alliance-team

 

I visited my local Dick's today, and am sorry to report that no AAF stuff was available in-store.

 

The one employee whom I spoke to was not even aware of the league, and doubted whether the store had ever carried its gear.

[johnnysama]

On 4/21/2019 at 9:44 PM, GDAWG said:

The AAF has died......The SLAF, which was proposed in 2014 has not updated their social media accounts in two years.  The APL has been inactive for almost two months and the Freedom Football League probably won't kick off despite being active on social media.  As soon as the XFL dies (and it will) this leaves the CFL and their version of the game as the last man standing. 

Made me think of this "YOU THINK YOU CAN STOP THE CFL? NOTHING CAN STOP THE CFL!" XD

[CaliforniaGlowin]

Creating a name for a league and teams, designing logos and uniforms....those are easy.  Props to the AAF for actually getting a product on the field for a few weeks.

[Cosmic]

On 4/27/2019 at 9:38 PM, CaliforniaGlowin said:

Creating a name for a league and teams, designing logos and uniforms....those are easy.  Props to the AAF for actually getting a product on the field for a few weeks.

I don't think it's actually that hard when you don't pay any of your bills.

[Sodboy13]

On 4/27/2019 at 8:38 PM, CaliforniaGlowin said:

Creating a name for a league and teams, designing logos and uniforms....those are easy.  Props to the AAF for actually getting a product on the field for a few weeks.

 

Have you considered how much this particular message board is not for you?

[dfwabel]

Kaplan has the article behind the paywall, but...

Quote

@TDCanes is not liable for @TheAAF
 debts, and does not appear to have signed a contract when he bought the league. My story based on a close look at the Chapter 7 filing and interviews with bankruptcy experts 

https://mobile.twitter.com/dkaplanSBJ/status/1122856679316643840

[GDAWG]

An AAF player heads North to Canada:

 

https://www.bluebombers.com/?p=314709&preview=true

[MDGP]

On 4/27/2019 at 9:38 PM, CaliforniaGlowin said:

Creating a name for a league and teams, designing logos and uniforms....those are easy. 

 

You haven't had much client work, I see.