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2 minutes ago, See Red said:

Yeah, that's not right. It was raining, though. The ratio of fans in either endzone to fans along the sidelines was really high. 

Really odd that the endzones had so many. Either the prices were really out of whack between the two or there was somewhere up high on the sidelines you could sit under an overhang and not get wet 

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28 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said:

 

This is the quickest, sharpest 180 in history.

 

I hope he didn't actually quit on it.  It'd be a shame to have watched so much sloppy football just to miss easily the league's best game.  One that actually made a really strong case for the league.

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2 minutes ago, See Red said:

 

I hope he didn't actually quit on it.  It'd be a shame to have watched so much sloppy football just to miss easily the league's best game.  One that actually made a really strong case for the league.

 

I think he's frustrated that the attendance numbers are extremely low. 

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23 minutes ago, Red Wolf said:

Seems odd that the endzones were so full considering you have places like Birmingham tarping them off.

 

Legion Field tarps them off for UAB games too.  It's not just the endzones, either.  I believe it's the lowest sections down the sidelines and the sections at the top of the stadium.

 

It's going to be interesting to see how Orlando draws next week.  Their first game wasn't completely terrible considering the rain but I did think it would be better.  But they're really fun to watch, they're probably the best team in the league, and there should be enough Florida fans in the Orlando area that would show up to support Spurrier alone.

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On 2/16/2019 at 7:34 PM, See Red said:

I still can't believe Hackenberg was a second-round draft pick.  Yeesh.

Hackenberg couldn't hit the side of a barn.  He's awful.  Actually, awful isn't strong enough of a word to describe Hackenberg, neither is terrible or putrid.

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I was talking to my cousin yesterday who I thought was going to be at the game in Memphis (He works for FedEx and they gave his department a pretty huge ticket package), and he said that the entire group he was planning on going with took one look at the weather and said no thanks. His exact words were, "There's no way in hell I'm going out in this s**t to watch AAF football." I get that. Still not a real good sign for the league, though. It seems like weather may be playing a larger factor in this than was originally anticipated, and probably something they should've forseen. I know Memphis this time of year can be absolutely miserable (Actually, Memphis is always kind of miserable, come to think of it), and I sure as hell wouldn't want to go watch minor league football in bad weather. The teams further south like Orlando seem to be doing really well, San Antonio is indoors, and I assume that once the weather stabilizes a bit, San Diego will do ok. Arizona has always been a weird outlier in that case because nobody down there ever really cares about any of their sports teams. Any talk of expansion at this point seems dumb unless you're going to place teams in warm climates or in a dome. 

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I wouldn't be surprised if weather plays a bigger role than just about anything for most minor league endeavors. If it's 100+ degree heat index I'm not going to watch minor league baseball and if it's raining I'm not sitting outside to watch minor league anything else. I'll be curious to see if things get any better for places like Memphis as the season goes on and the weather potentially gets better.

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10 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

I was talking to my cousin yesterday who I thought was going to be at the game in Memphis (He works for FedEx and they gave his department a pretty huge ticket package), and he said that the entire group he was planning on going with took one look at the weather and said no thanks. His exact words were, "There's no way in hell I'm going out in this s**t to watch AAF football." I get that. Still not a real good sign for the league, though. It seems like weather may be playing a larger factor in this than was originally anticipated, and probably something they should've forseen. I know Memphis this time of year can be absolutely miserable (Actually, Memphis is always kind of miserable, come to think of it), and I sure as hell wouldn't want to go watch minor league football in bad weather. The teams further south like Orlando seem to be doing really well, San Antonio is indoors, and I assume that once the weather stabilizes a bit, San Diego will do ok. Arizona has always been a weird outlier in that case because nobody down there ever really cares about any of their sports teams. Any talk of expansion at this point seems dumb unless you're going to place teams in warm climates or in a dome. 

 

Arizona was a weird choice for a team.  They are in a city where baseball teams are going to be in spring training and if they play a mid afternoon game, most Arizona sports fans would rather watch the Cactus League instead of the Hot Shots. 

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2 hours ago, Sykotyk said:

Really odd that the endzones had so many. Either the prices were really out of whack between the two or there was somewhere up high on the sidelines you could sit under an overhang and not get wet 

 

Most fans in San Diego were up under the second deck, where unfortunately they’re not visible to TV. 

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2 hours ago, GDAWG said:

Hopefully San Diego can get better attendance when the weather is better, just to stick it to Dean Spanos. 

 

20,000 fans in the rain is pretty much sticking it to Spanos. He can’t get 10,000 in LA to his NFL team on a sunny day. 

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2 hours ago, Gothamite said:
8 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

Wait a minute — your cable company's sports tier does not include the NFL Network?

 

Only 56% of households get the NFL network. 

 

Plenty of people don't want any sports-related channels, and so don't subscribe to the sports tier of their cable service.

 

And some people elect not to have cable (an unwise decision in my opinion; though that is a topic for another thread).

 

But if a cable TV subscriber has purchased the sports tier, then the NFL Network is sure to be part of that subscriber's service, is it not?

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7 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

But if a cable TV subscriber has purchased the sports tier, then the NFL Network is sure to be part of that subscriber's service, is it not?

 

I haven’t had cable in a few years, but at the time it was not. I could get the basic sports network package from Time Warner without getting the NFL Network, which was on the premium sports tier.  Which might explain why only 56% of homes have it. 

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14 hours ago, Red Wolf said:

I wouldn't be surprised if weather plays a bigger role than just about anything for most minor league endeavors. If it's 100+ degree heat index I'm not going to watch minor league baseball and if it's raining I'm not sitting outside to watch minor league anything else. I'll be curious to see if things get any better for places like Memphis as the season goes on and the weather potentially gets better.

 

Could explain San Antonio's early success compared to the other teams. San Antonio is guaranteed to not have any weather impacting the games. 

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On 2/15/2019 at 6:11 PM, the admiral said:

This irrelevant league really moves the meters around here, its thread grows pages by the day and is full of mod edits. 

I know what I’m about to say isn’t particularly ground breaking but it’s something I don’t think I’ve seen said yet and your post is as good an excuse as any to jump into it...

 

As long as I’ve been here? There’s been an undercurrent among CCSLC membership that has been practically begging for a US-based alternate football league to support. It hasn’t been something everyone has been itching for, but there’s always been a vocal segment of the forum’s userbase that have wanted something like this. 

 

There’s always been a lot of USFL nostalgia among the older crowd, and “spring NFL Minor League” has been a popular topic for either Reel-Line-Mint talk or concept fodder. 

 

You see it spill out with grandiose statements from time to time. 

One long-time user who is a big AAF supporter suggested that pessimism about the AAF is what the NFL wanted.

Or another long-time CCSLCer who responded to skepticism about the AAF with a plea to give it a chance because the NFL is a monopoly dominating football. 

 

Even though the AAF is being broadcast on both the NFL’s own network and a network with a NFL contract. Indicating that the NFL actually doesn’t seem to view this new league with hostility.

Still? This is such a long-sought after dream that it’s drilled into many of its supporters that the NFL is The Enemy, even if it’s not in this case. 

 

I mean the NHL, NBA, and MLB are just as much monopolies in regards to their sports as the NFL is to theirs (and the NFL is actually less so, because their monopoly doesn’t include Canada while the rest of the Big Four’s reach does). 

Yet there’s never been this real clamouring for a rival or “supplement” to the NHL, NBA, or MLB despite that. 

 

There’s just this romanticism that exists for alternative football leagues in the States, for reasons that allude me. Is it the old AFL’s success to the point that they forced a merger? The USFL’s steady track record until they moved to the fall? I don’t know. Some of the whacky WFL unis?

 

Regardless? There’s always been this desire for something like this to work. So much so that we even have people championing the XFL 2.0 despite the first XFL (run by the same guy!) failing spectacularly. 

So it doesn’t surprise me that when we get a league that 1) plays in the NFL offseason 2) provides a different brand of football and 3) desires to compliment the NFL rather than supplant it and manages to not be a total embarrassment? People latch onto it. It hits the trifecta of what a subsection of the CCSLC has always wanted while seeing semi-competent to boot. 

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26 minutes ago, bosrs1 said:

 

Could explain San Antonio's early success compared to the other teams. San Antonio is guaranteed to not have any weather impacting the games. 

Not unless the water cannons go off again.

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