dfwabel Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 The Oregonian columnist John Conzano is running a multi-part series on the Pac-12 and how they are falling behind the other Power 5, especially the SEC and Big Ten. Today's column goes through the conference finances, the move of their HQ to San Francisco and later goes to bury Larry Scott from his high salary to the value of his house. Conzano got petty very quick. https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2018/11/pac-12-larry-scott-leftout-part1.html?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=oregonian_sf&utm_source=twitter Part 2 will supposedly cover the Pad 12 Network, but I'm not sure if anything is going to differ from Jon Wilner's week long story on it in The Mercury News* last year. *-The Wilner story is now behind The Mercury News' paywall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Off topic, but I’m never going to understand why people who have that kind of money and work in the city still insist on living in Blackhawk. That is NOT a fun commute. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said: Off topic, but I’m never going to understand why people who have that kind of money and work in the city still insist on living in Blackhawk. That is NOT a fun commute. Everything I know about Bay Area geography I learned from Rancid songs. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 53 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said: Off topic, but I’m never going to understand why people who have that kind of money and work in the city still insist on living in Blackhawk. That is NOT a fun commute. The first five years of his tenure, the conference was in a office building on the Walnut Creek/Pleasant Hill border off 680 and Treat Blvd. If he moved, he must repay the loan back immediately. I also wonder how many days a month he is actually in at HQ? If he is flying back to the municipal airport in Concord, he may not be there but 50% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Oh ok that makes more sense. I misread the article. I thought his move out west coincided with the office move to San Francisco. I was like, why would you do that? Contra Costa County in general is weird to me. I don’t understand the fuss. It’s one of those areas that comes up in conversation and everyone talks about how nice and ritzy it is, and then halfway through the conversation you realize that they don’t actually live in the Bay Area, and may not have ever even visited. Ok, back on topic! On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Have them hang out in Bay Point, Pittsburg & Antioch for a bit. Oh and don't forget your bullet proof vest. Ok now back to the Pac-12: Basketball stinks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Wacky championship game predictions: SEC: Alabama over Georgia ACC: Clemson over Pitt Big Ten: Ohio State over Northwestern Big XII: Texas upsets Oklahoma again! Pac-12: Washington over Utah AAC: Memphis upsets UCF MWC: Boise State over Fresno State & the Broncos grab the Group of 5 spot. So we get these NY6 games: Orange Bowl (Semifinal): Clemson vs. Notre Dame Cotton Bowl (Semifinal): Alabama vs. Ohio State Sugar Bowl: Georgia vs. Texas Rose Bowl: Washington vs. Michigan Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma vs. Boise State Peach Bowl: Florida vs. Penn State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/26/2018 at 10:36 PM, willmorris said: I can't see the committee taking a team that didn't win a conference title over a one-loss conference champ. At this point you seem to be the only person in America who doesn't think ND is already in. http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said: At this point you seem to be the only person in America who doesn't think ND is already in. To be fair, I've seen a couple articles that say that an Alabama loss, Clemson loss and Ohio State and Oklahoma wins would kick Notre Dame out of the playoff. There's a lot that does need to happen for Notre Dame to be playing in the Sugar Bowl or Fiesta Bowl instead of the Orange Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Kicking them out when they and UCF are the only undefeated teams left, ND gets kicked out? That makes absolutely no sense. If anything that just kicks them up to the 1 seed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 If Oklahoma wins, they're in. Ohio State will probably miss out even if they beat Northwestern, but that might be for the best. No way they can compete with Alabama, with how inconsistent they have been. The Sooners would be a much better matchup IMO. Clemson could lose to Pittsburgh, but unlikely. Notre Dame went 12-0... they're in. If Georgia somehow beat Alabama, would Alabama still be in? How far would they fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Dolphins Dynasty said: If Oklahoma wins, they're in. Ohio State will probably miss out even if they beat Northwestern, but that might be for the best. I hope so, but if Oklahoma ekes one out and Ohio State wins by 40, I think it'll matter to the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Dolphins Dynasty said: If Oklahoma wins, they're in. Ohio State will probably miss out even if they beat Northwestern, but that might be for the best. No way they can compete with Alabama, with how inconsistent they have been. The Sooners would be a much better matchup IMO. Clemson could lose to Pittsburgh, but unlikely. Notre Dame went 12-0... they're in. If Georgia somehow beat Alabama, would Alabama still be in? How far would they fall? Georgia beating Alabama is a catastrophe for Oklahoma and Ohio State. Alabama has been too dominant and their one loss would be better than either of the other two's losses. Georgia winning ensures both get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Jeff Brohm is staying at Purdue. Bad news for Louisville! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxy8s Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Kramerica Industries said: Georgia beating Alabama is a catastrophe for Oklahoma and Ohio State. Alabama has been too dominant and their one loss would be better than either of the other two's losses. Georgia winning ensures both get in. I was stunned that the committee passed on a golden opportunity to leave Alabama out last year, but then again, that was at UCF's expense. This year, they'd be leaving out two blue blood programs for the benefit of Alabama. That might be harder to pull the trigger on. The closest analog would be that first playoff when both Baylor and TCU were left out, and Ohio State took the #4 spot. The reasoning was that tOSU won the B1G outright whereas TCU and Baylor tied for the Big 12, I think. This time they'd leave out two conference champions in favor of the SEC runner up because everyone just knows Bama's the best? I hope not. Georgia will make this easier on everyone by being embarrassed on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 46 minutes ago, alxy8s said: I was stunned that the committee passed on a golden opportunity to leave Alabama out last year, but then again, that was at UCF's expense. This year, they'd be leaving out two blue blood programs for the benefit of Alabama. That might be harder to pull the trigger on. The closest analog would be that first playoff when both Baylor and TCU were left out, and Ohio State took the #4 spot. The reasoning was that tOSU won the B1G outright whereas TCU and Baylor tied for the Big 12, I think. This time they'd leave out two conference champions in favor of the SEC runner up because everyone just knows Bama's the best? I hope not. Georgia will make this easier on everyone by being embarrassed on Saturday. In 2014, TCU and Baylor tied for the Big XII championship. While Baylor defeated TCU, the Big XII labeled them as "Co-champions", rather than naming the lower ranked Baylor (TCU was #3 going into the final Saturday, Ohio State #5 & Baylor was #6). TCU and Baylor both won on that final Saturday. Baylor beat #9 Kansas State and TCU beat a 2-10 Iowa State but Ohio State smoked Wisconsin. That's where then committee chair Jeff Long brought up the championship game favor but really didn't put emphasis on the topic until April 2015 when pressed during the Arkansas Spring Game. Now, that's a data point which is now kinda moot since Alabama got in last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS729 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Alabama will get regardless. They’ve been dominant all year long. Even if Oklahoma and Ohio State both win, they would all share 4 “quality” wins, and Alabama’s dominance (4 20+ point wins against current Top 25 teams) and having a better loss would likely make up for the lack of a conference title. As for the rest of the field, Clemson & Georgia are in firm “win and you’re in” territory. Oklahoma & Ohio State are going to need some outside help to get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 To me, this is how it break down... -Notre Dame is already in no matter what happens, but they don't have that crucial 13th data point the committee can use -Alabama and Clemson are virtual locks to get in. -One slot remains. If Georgia wins, then there's no way in hell the committee leaves out Alabama and we have, once again, two SEC teams in the field (much to the chagrin of everyone out there) -If Georgia loses, then Oklahoma and Ohio State come into play. It'll be easier if one team wins and the other team loses... if both win, then they have a tough decision to make: Do you go with the explosive offense Oklahoma has or do you go with an Ohio State team that has the most impressive victory of the season by a team not named Alabama? -There is also one wild card here... UCF. The Knights at #8, right behind an idle Michigan team and the three teams that are playing this weekend (alongside them). UCF fans would want wins by Alabama, Texas and Northwestern along with a win over Memphis in the American title game. Lose the American title game and you're toast... the Group of 5 bid then goes to the winner of the Mountain West title game between Fresno State and Boise State. Win that game and maybe, just maybe, the cards fall in the right direction that could see UCF in the #4 slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoknight Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 So, Texas.... Crybabies complained to the Big 12 officials that the upside down horns gesture is offensive. Apparently, Oklahoma will be penalized 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct each time an OU player throws an upside down horn. https://www.hookem.com/2018/11/28/big-12-clarifies-that-horns-down-gestures-in-its-championship-contest-will-be-penalized/ Apparently, everything in Texas is bigger. Even the victimhood. 5th in NAT. TITLES | 2nd in CONF. TITLES | 5th in HEISMAN | 7th in DRAFTS | 8th in ALL-AMER | 7th in WINS | 4th in BOWLS | 1st in SELLOUTS | 1st GAMEDAY SIGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Texas-Oklahoma will be the next big rivalry to end over pettiness when the next big realignment comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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